KCJAccountscom harassing me and handing out my ID

hybridx · Jun 16, 2009

Ok, so I sold my account to Jano February 4th. Jano then sold the account to another user a short while after. As I sold my account to Jano, he said he would only keep my ID for recalling purposes and would not give it out. I found out last week, that Jano actually handed out my ID to the person he resold the account to. What happen to the part about not giving my ID out to others? Last week, the account got recalled. My brother was the OO, but cannot do a notary for me as he is living in another state, and can care less about a video game. I have contacted him several times, and his answer is no. Now Jano holds me responsible for an account that has already been sold, and who knows what that user has done with the account. Jano is threatening me via AIM with credit card chargebacks.

I was sent a total of $240, here is a pic:

Here are logs:

After much talk, why should I responsible for something that I am not responsible for? I can care less if Jano has "outstanding" feedback.. any buyer/reseller can achieve that. And the fact he gave out my bros ID to "random" people without my permission should not be allowed. I am not going to pay you back Jano. I don't know what else I can say to you.

hybridx · Jun 16, 2009

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Here is one more log I found.. and the last one.

Mordred69 · Jun 17, 2009

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I hope you get some justice man, thats just all sorts of F up

ToonVendor · Jun 17, 2009

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Jesus, after speaking with Jano and what I've seen here I honestly can't believe I've treated Jano so well in the past.

Had I had known Jano was this type of guy I wouldn't have deal with him. He puts us resellers to shame, handing out other people's ID's is just all sorts of wrong. There's no reason to do that, at all.

Hopefully Jano doesn't charge back as you do not deserve it. If anyone deserves anything, its Jano deserving some negative feedback out of this. It is in no way your fault that this happened.

OH_NOEZ · Jun 17, 2009

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agreed, KCJAccountscom should not have done that and even still at least ask for your permission first.

KCJAccountscom · Jun 17, 2009

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I know we are not supposed to post in topics not involving us but I am extremely close with Jano and have been for years, I have personally spoken with Jano on this and have seen evidence that he has never sent the original owner a copy of your ID.

If you are going to accuse someone of something, post proof.

If you have evidence he distributed your ID copy post it.

Another note as I am going to re read after I post this was there any mention about keeping the ID secure and clarified it would not be passed on to the next owner?

I really hope everything gets settled here peacefully, Hybrid we have done business in the past and have not had any problems, while I have been working besides Jano proudly as he is a top power seller who brings the effort to what he does as he does it correctly unlike 98% of this industry.

Vancouver · Jun 17, 2009

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Woah jano.

MaskedArmory · Jun 17, 2009

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KcJAccounts.com</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its against privacy laws to redistribute ID's.

I hope you 2 both work this out.

Best of luck</div></div>

This is true. Without your authorization (not even sure after that point), it is against Federal (not international I do not believe) Privacy laws to redistribute identification.

As KCJAccountscom is not here in the States, I am not sure the legally of the situation. Nonetheless, I do find him to be at fault in this regard.

I am hoping that this situation can be resolved amicably.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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Hi all.

1) It's KCJAccountscom

2) - I have been in the business long enough to know that it is against the law to give out ID. Although it is true what Knucklehead mentioned, I'm not under federal law, but I withhold this ruling in respect of an original owner's privacy.
- I deal with a lot of accounts and I am looking at logs right now. I have neither denied or confirmed that I have sent the ID. Although I am looking at chat logs and sent e-mail logs and have not found any trace of this.

3) - What Hybrid fails to mention is that 1 day prior to this account having issues is that Hybrid messages me asking to somehow get back his warrior, he is very keen on it.
- High interest in having the warrior back, and the account getting recalled 1 day later..
- The new owner called in to Blizzard and said the very same day a different person called in, claiming to have all info and is the rightful owner of the account.

Note: I rename everone on my AIM client. Choksha is an alteration of the character at issue.
- Notice how awesome the new character is.
- Hybrid wants to give a Gladiator T8.5/T7.5 acc, for a warrior with 2 T7 + 2 T7.5
- June 12 was when I got the chat log above.

- The following chat log was with the new owner received on june 13

- Anyway this is not enough to prove someone has recalled. I am, and have always only based final decisions on facts. Opinions does not weight heavily in justice, screenshots can be doctored, opinions can be altered. It's facts and outcomes that carry weight. I will elaborate more at the end of the post.

4) Hybrid has offered to do a refund and asked whether I would pass that money to the owner who now does not have an account, of course I said yes to in and said I would do it. There is no personal gain in this pressure game I am playing, I am seeking to compensate the new owner as the account I have bought from Hybrid at the moment is unusable.

5) - You are complaining about a chargeback that has not happened. And prior to me threatening you to do a chargeback you were very hesitant to get things solved. And just for record's sake, and for your own information, I have never done a single credit charge back on my PayPal account ever. People in the business knows that you have to apply a little pressure to get the ball going. And it was proved for a fact after I threatened to do a CC chargeback you were more willing to contact your brother a few more times.
- I was hesitant to release the following information at first as this pretty much forfeits my pressure game to try and get the original owner to fix the situation, but I just want to show the community that I had no intent of truly doing a chargeback other than for the reasons of making the original owner more helpful than his attitude of "well, not my problem, been 5-6 months, my brother wont do it so your loss" (thats not a direct quote btw)

- Furthermore, Alex and Marcus knows well I would not want to risk getting my PayPal under limitation to investigate the credit card chargeback. Right now I need the PayPal up and running for my new site so there's no way in hell I'd wanna get $250 back when that would cost me tens of thousands of dollars if my PayPal got down again.

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As I have stated above, I do not base any of my actions upon THOUGHTS, OPINIONS, OR EVEN CHAT LOGS. Chat logs are good though, for additional insight to matters. But unfortunately worse comes to worse they can all be doctored. I can doctor mines, Hybrid can doctor his.

Even my opinions and chat logs regarding Hybrid's intent to get the warrior back on June 12, and mysteriously the same day (between June 12 and 13) someone called in to get the account back. Even this in my opinion cant be used as hard base facts. These are just dots connected together, and worst of all based on chat logs.

Now on I go to the facts:
1) I have never issued the chargeback yet, nor would I ever. Admitting this fact forfeits my pressure and maybe now Hybrid will never try to get the account back for the new owner.
2) Despite Hybrid's accusation that the new owner got keylogged, and that I resold the acc (duh, I'm a reseller) and that it is not his problem, it is still ultimately only Hybrid who can solve this issue. Regardless of WHY it happened (keylog? recall?), regardless of WHEN (1 year later? 3 years later?), it is only Hybrid that can help.
3) The reason Hybrid cannot give a notarization is because he sold an account belonging to his brother, and his brother now doesn't live at his house and/or is unwilling. It is not my responsibility as the sale intermediary, nor the new owner's. Internal affairs are Hybrid's responsibility, regardless of what is going on, when this account was purchased from Hybrid, he should honor the fact that when it solely in his hands to get the issue fixed, he needs to get it done.

As we are unclear to whether it was Hybrid recalling, or the new owner getting keylogged or any other cause, the clear solution is just to have Hybrid's brother's notarization. I have even agreed to drop all responsibility after the notarization is successful.

Hope this clears things up.

Edit: Grammar fix.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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I have found evidence that I have not given out Hybrid's ID.

As mentioned in the earlier post, I would always ask first. As stated, I did not deny nor confirm whether or not the ID was passed out because I wanted to see hard evidence first.

I have checked all 9 E-Mails I have ever sent to the new owner, no ID.
My AIM doesn't let me send files.

I have checked all chat logs with the new owner, on one of it the owner mentioned that Hybrid can help if I can send Hybrid the ID. This also implies that Myzery (the new owner) does not have the ID.

I didn't attach chat log to that one as it is not as important as the following one:

Earlier I gave Hybrid the benefit of the doubt. "MAYBE, I sent an ID within the past 60 days" after all there is so much going on and I don't want to make statements based on uncertain memory. And even then, if I had given it out, unless I forgot or made a mistake, I would have asked.

So as promised I digged through the logs and found some evidence. Also thanks to KCJ for the suggestions on re-looking the logs as I skimmed too fast earlier:

Important points: <span style="font-weight: bold">Comments in green</span>
1) This is June 17, 4 days ago. I am 100% sure I didn't send any IDs the past 4 days.
2) Hybrid states: He said he has all info just not the ID. <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #33FF33">(He = the new owner) Hybrid himself stated that Myzery does not have the ID.</span></span>
3) Hybrid states: If anything happens, you'll recall it right (You still ahve ID I gave you corrent?)? I don't want to get involved anymore. <span style="color: #33FF33"><span style="font-weight: bold">Hybrid asks me to recall, which is already giving me permission to do it. Recalling means I have to send ID to blizzard, which therefore allows me to send his ID to a third party. Whether or not this is blizzard, or new owner, this is a statement from Hybrid allowing the use of the ID. I say again, to my knowledge I have not passed the ID however)</span></span>
4) Jano writes: mind if i just pass your ID and have them sort it out? <span style="color: #33ff33"><span style="font-weight: bold">This proves that I -do ask- for permission.</span></span>

And as a final confirmation that Hybrid did indeed talk with Myzery (the new owner)

So now the issue still stands that I am disappointed that I had to forfeit my hardball game to prove that I am not issuing a cc chargeback. I still hope that the original owner would take responsibility and fix the account. But I highly doubt this will happen.

EDIT: Made comments in green for easier viewing.

KCJAccountscom · Jun 17, 2009

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Nothing but some evidence to counter.

Gonna be interesting, best of luck resolving this.

Zelda1001-banned · Jun 17, 2009

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Its clear that these people posting for other people claiming how legit they are are in fact their [censored].

Zelda1001-banned · Jun 17, 2009

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lol /10char

gxpark1234 · Jun 17, 2009

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I'm not trying to get involved here, but I've done business with Jano and I like him because he's a good guy. Hope this situation gets figured out.

MaskedArmory · Jun 17, 2009

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Retracting my previous comment. Tried to stay as neutral as possible until Jano tossed up some proof.

The proof is solid. Interested to see the counterpoint from Hybrid.

ToonVendor · Jun 17, 2009

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Although in the logs I don't really see him agreeing that you could hand his ID out, it is reassuring to see that you do at least make the effort to get his permission.

I'd just say its a stalemate, things gone wrong neither of your guys' fault. Just there's no reason to threaten charge backs, really scared the guy as it seems.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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I did a typo above, the chat log where Hybrid asked me to use his ID by myself to get things sorted to recall the account (on the basis that Hybrid does not want to get involved anymore) was on June 13. Not June 17 as I wrote.

A recap of the things that happened on June 13:
- Hybrid asks me to use his ID to recall (therefore asking me to send to third parties, such as blizzard, which forfeits his claims of me illegitimately using his ID)
- Hybrid acknowledged the new owner had all info EXCEPT the ID

Furthermore as I have stated, if its just a span of June 13 to today (4 days), I am 1000% sure I did NOT SEND ANY IDs anywhere.

As it stands we have a locked account from an original owner who is unwilling to take responsibility.

Customz · Jun 17, 2009

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Once again ladies and gents let me remind you of our little rule. I dont care if you are Jano or Hybrid's brother, uncle, butt buddy, or dog please do not post on this thread unless you have some sort of substantial proof or information to bring to the table.

Both Jano and Hybrid are big boys and are fully capable of defending themselves.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zerotoleranceftw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Although in the logs I don't really see him agreeing that you could hand his ID out, it is reassuring to see that you do at least make the effort to get his permission.

I'd just say its a stalemate, things gone wrong neither of your guys' fault. Just there's no reason to threaten charge backs, really scared the guy as it seems. </div></div>

John, you're in the business as well. We all know pressure is necessary. I cant remember how many times I've saved a client's account by applying pressure.

I've had multiple original owner's who recalled accounts, and after being pressured, they admitted to it and returned the account. Even if they didn't recall, they became more willing to do more effort to get the account in control.

What matter's is the end result: goodness.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Customz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Once again ladies and gents let me remind you of our little rule. I dont care if you are Jano or Hybrid's brother, uncle, butt buddy, or dog please do not post on this thread unless you have some sort of substantial proof or information to bring to the table.

Both Jano and Hybrid are big boys and are fully capable of defending themselves. </div></div>

I agree.

I will get the new owner to post here as well.

Myzeryy · Jun 17, 2009

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I am the Third party involved in all of this and Jano has asked me to tell what i have experienced throughout this Sale.

First of all, i want to say that Jano has been EXTREMELY helpful over the past week or so this has taken place. He has kept in contact through email, and aim to make sure this is on it's way to getting resolved.

I purchased the account through Jano, it was a very easy transaction that took less than a day. About a week in, the account was suspended when i tried to log in. I of course thought it was a hacker, but later checking my email it never showed a password change of any sort, just a bnet merge. I had it unmerged using the secret question answer, NOT THE ID, LET ME STRESS I NEVER RECIEVED AN ID.

Everything was fine until a few days later, the account was suspended again. I called blizzard and they said someone claiming to be the original owner called in, WHY WOULD A HACKER CALL IN FOR MY ACCOUNT?, and said that they are not in control of the account. I then again used the secret answer, and merged it into MY OWN BNET ACCOUNT. a day later, it was suspended because "someone" called in and was attempting to unmerge it from the bnet account.

Through all this, Jano was helping me out, talking to the oo, and making sure i was taken care of. There really is no doubt in my mind that Hybrid was attempting to recall the account, i understand this is he said she said, but the day before the first suspension, he was offering me a full furious hunter, and a full 7.5 dk. I politely declined both as i was enjoying the warrior. He offered me cash as well which i also declined. A day later it was suspended, coincidence? He has repeatedly stated he cannot get the documents needed to claim ownership of the account because it is his brothers.

Doesn't that mean that when Hybrid sold the account, and Jano stating he only buys from original owners, that Hybrid sold an account that was not his?

The bottom line is Jano is a great seller, and a very great person in general. Please don't let one buyer/seller sway your judgement. Jano is offering me a refund, which he RARELY does, only in special circumstances, because he knows i have been wronged. If there is any question about whether or not i am the third party involved, hit me up on here and i'll show you a few things to prove it that i'd rather not show on this post. Thank you for your time.

Myzery

*On a side note, when blizzard told me someone called in saying they were the original owner, they said the caller had enough information for blizzard to believe that was the original owner. This includes Address, NAME OF ORIGINAL OWNER, Secret question answer, and other information which EVEN IF I WAS HACKED WHICH I WAS NOT, as i run a very clean computer with multiple spyware blockers and antivirus software, was NEVER on my computer. How and why would a hacker call in to blizzard pretending to be the original owner, not once, but TWICE. First time to suspend the account, then a second to attempt to unmerge the account from bnet. That's something that you as the reader have to digest and come to a conclusion about.

hybridx · Jun 17, 2009

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What proof are you providing? I simply was coming back to WoW a week or two ago, and was wondering if he wanted to do a trade. I don't see how any of that plays into this situation. It doesn't change the fact that you unwillingly handed out my ID does it?

"- What Hybrid fails to mention is that 1 day prior to this account having issues is that Hybrid messages me asking to somehow get back his warrior, he is very keen on it.
- High interest in having the warrior back, and the account getting recalled 1 day later..
- The new owner called in to Blizzard and said the very same day a different person called in, claiming to have all info and is the rightful owner of the account."

LMAO. I never asked you for the warrior back. I simply offered him a toon. I was coming back to WoW, bought a hunter, and was simply wondering if Myzery wanted to trade. As you can see in the Auctions Buy/Sell, I have SEVERAL threads up on buying a HORDE warrior/dk (as a warrior has been the toon I've been playing since BC). I don't see your point here.

"You are complaining about a chargeback that has not happened. And prior to me threatening you to do a chargeback you were very hesitant to get things solved. And just for record's sake, and for your own information, I have never done a single credit charge back on my PayPal account ever. People in the business knows that you have to apply a little pressure to get the ball going. And it was proved for a fact after I threatened to do a CC chargeback you were more willing to contact your brother a few more times."

I already knew this, and the only reason I would give you a refund was so I can have some time to make this post. Like I said, I am not going to refund you as it is none of my business to what happen to the account. The economy is [censored] right now, and I'm not gonna waste $240 on something thats not mine.

"I have found evidence that I have not given out Hybrid's ID.

As mentioned in the earlier post, I would always ask first. As stated, I did not deny nor confirm whether or not the ID was passed out because I wanted to see hard evidence first.

I have checked all 9 E-Mails I have ever sent to the new owner, no ID."

Once again Jano you are clearly LYING. Not only did Myzery get ahold of the ID, but who knows who else has it by now. Clearly a third party plays into this, and who knows who he has given it to..

"Hybrid asks me to use his ID to recall (therefore asking me to send to third parties, such as blizzard, which forfeits his claims of me illegitimately using his ID)"

EDIT*** I read this wrong. I asked you to send the ID To blizzard ( as I trust them with it ) , not to random people around the world. I asked you if you still had the ID, and if you did, get the account unlocked. I still don't see how this has to do with anything. Blizzard = a multi-millionaire company , Myzery = a random person.

hybridx · Jun 17, 2009

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So I was chatting with Jano. Even after I posted clear screenshots of Myzery admitting to having my ID; jano still denies it. He even offered to close this whole thread, by me not owing any refund. To me, that is not acceptable. I want an apology from him as well , stating he is sorry for giving out my ID.. thats all!

Here are the important highlights.

MMO-Armory.com · Jun 17, 2009

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I am surprised by that screenshot you posted regarding Myzery's statement. I would like to hear from Myzery regarding that.

I would just like to update everyone with the situation.

Hybrid contacted me on AIM, saying he wants to find a solution. His solution was that he refunds nothing, and I don't do a chargeback. In other words: nothing changed since even before the thread. No responsibility from the OO for the account.

I tried to hold firm and offered him a discount on the amount of the compensation. He refused.

To me, arguing on this issue takes a lot of time, and as people earn money on a dollar/hour basis, this is costing me a lot. Sure,<span style="color: #33FF33"> I am trying to get a $240 refund which will be fully paid to Myzery + another $110 ,</span> but in the long run, I stand to lose $1000+ in money not earned, because I am devoting myself to this thread instead.

In business negotiation terms, this is "Finding the next best alternative":
- I cannot chargeback him because I do not want issues on my PayPal. And I would prefer a willing refund rather than a forced chargeback.
- I told Hybrid I will take his offer and end this discussion, on terms that there are no more arguments. In other words,<span style="color: #FF0000"> I agreed to forfeit the refund.</span> and just end this, in hope that I can devote my time to money earning activities and quickly recuperate the $350 which I will hand to Myzery.
- Hybrid agreed, THEN the next thing that happened is that Hybrid wants me to write a written apology for giving out his ID. I am not admitting to giving out his ID as I have checked all AIM logs, E-Mail logs, and found no trace of an ID being sent. I found this preposterous. After agreeing to lose $350, let Hybrid take of with responsibility, and then he demands more.

This is already on top of the fact that:
1) Hybrid already stated in chat logs prior to this post that<span style="color: #33FF33"> he is willing to issue a refund.</span> I don't believe you can take that back after agreeing. I can post a chat log if needed. (A lot of four letter F and S words) But then again in my opinion chat logs are doctorable (photoshop-able) so statements will do. And since I'm not so demanding no point either.
2) As much as there is accusations from Hybrid that Myzery may have resold it, or retraded the account, there is just as much chance that Hybrid did recall, or if his brother, without Hybrid's knowledge, recalled.

I go back to the basic of the basics:
- We have heard statements and opinions: Hybrid thinks I gave the ID. I state that I did not. Myzery stated that I did not.
- We can go on and on arguing about this ID you are weighing so heavily upon, but I will stay firm on the fact that I did not give out your ID. You can post chat logs and accusations, I can post you back how easily you could have posted fake screenshots or even altered the logs itself.

So.. The only hard facts here are these:
- The account you sold is unusable due to an -unknown- third party attempting to recall it.
- The solution is simply to have your brother sign a notarization.
- If you're not willing to solve this and let someone lose $350 (most likely me) then to me, you have done me wrong.

In the last convo with Hybrid I even offered him more time to try and get the notarization but still said he could not get it.

A final update is that Hybrid msged me again and wants to try to talk about another solution later on. Well we'll see how that goes.

hybridx · Jun 17, 2009

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: www.JanoSukarya.com</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am surprised by that screenshot you posted regarding Myzery's statement. I would like to hear from Myzery regarding that.

I would just like to update everyone with the situation.

Hybrid contacted me on AIM, saying he wants to find a solution. His solution was that he refunds nothing, and I don't do a chargeback. In other words: nothing changed since even before the thread. No responsibility from the OO for the account.

I tried to hold firm and offered him a discount on the amount of the compensation. He refused.

To me, arguing on this issue takes a lot of time, and as people earn money on a dollar/hour basis, this is costing me a lot. Sure,<span style="color: #33FF33"> I am trying to get a $240 refund which will be fully paid to Myzery + another $110 ,</span> but in the long run, I stand to lose $1000+ in money not earned, because I am devoting myself to this thread instead.

In business negotiation terms, this is "Finding the next best alternative":
- I cannot chargeback him because I do not want issues on my PayPal. And I would prefer a willing refund rather than a forced chargeback.
- I told Hybrid I will take his offer and end this discussion, on terms that there are no more arguments. In other words,<span style="color: #FF0000"> I agreed to forfeit the refund.</span> and just end this, in hope that I can devote my time to money earning activities and quickly recuperate the $350 which I will hand to Myzery.
- Hybrid agreed, THEN the next thing that happened is that Hybrid wants me to write a written apology for giving out his ID. I am not admitting to giving out his ID as I have checked all AIM logs, E-Mail logs, and found no trace of an ID being sent. I found this preposterous. After agreeing to lose $350, let Hybrid take of with responsibility, and then he demands more.

This is already on top of the fact that:
1) Hybrid already stated in chat logs prior to this post that<span style="color: #33FF33"> he is willing to issue a refund.</span> I don't believe you can take that back after agreeing. I can post a chat log if needed. (A lot of four letter F and S words) But then again in my opinion chat logs are doctorable (photoshop-able) so statements will do. And since I'm not so demanding no point either.
2) As much as there is accusations from Hybrid that Myzery may have resold it, or retraded the account, there is just as much chance that Hybrid did recall, or if his brother, without Hybrid's knowledge, recalled.

I go back to the basic of the basics:
- We have heard statements and opinions: Hybrid thinks I gave the ID. I state that I did not. Myzery stated that I did not.
- We can go on and on arguing about this ID you are weighing so heavily upon, but I will stay firm on the fact that I did not give out your ID. You can post chat logs and accusations, I can post you back how easily you could have posted fake screenshots or even altered the logs itself.

So.. The only hard facts here are these:
- The account you sold is unusable due to an -unknown- third party attempting to recall it.
- The solution is simply to have your brother sign a notarization.
- If you're not willing to solve this and let someone lose $350 (most likely me) then to me, you have done me wrong.

In the last convo with Hybrid I even offered him more time to try and get the notarization but still said he could not get it.

A final update is that Hybrid msged me again and wants to try to talk about another solution later on. Well we'll see how that goes. </div></div>

I did say I would "refund", but after doing some thinking, its not my fault. Why should I have to end up paying the consequences after you already re-sold the account.

Like I said, I provided whatever logs I had, and in one of them Myzery clearly states you gave him the ID. Now I don't know whether Myzery is lying or not; but I'm trying to contact him on AIM and he is not answering. I am not blaming you as of right now, so no need to get all defensive. I'm just worried whose hands the ID is in now; as obviously a third party has entered this situation.

hybridx · Jun 17, 2009

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Me and Jano have reached an agreement and have solved our problems. Whether or not Jano has given out my ID, I need to contact Myzery. As far as the Refund/Chargeback issue goes, Jano has decided not to place either of those on me. I will keep you guys updated on the ID issue.

hybridx · Jun 17, 2009

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This whole issue has been solved. Me and Jano have discussed the issue with the refund/chargeback. I have also talked to Myzery about the ID issue. While I still may not find what he said 100% accurate, I guess I'll have to deal with it... as there is no other proof.

This thread can be locked.

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