I gave him a 90$ refund and he refuses to return it Akwafina

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

again, I await your response so that you tell the user to return the money, if no, then ban him, I don't want to waste my time on this, he keeps saying that he has no obligation to return money that I sent him and agreed to deliver it lmao

Why do you keep directing and demanding a mod to ban me? They haven't even given their verdict yet, and you aren't a mod

 

[giuliana]

Why do you keep directing and demanding a mod to ban me? They haven't even given their verdict yet, and you aren't a mod

Why do you keep refusing not to return money that doesn't belong to you? this is ridiculous

 

[EpicNPC CM]

No where have I been instructed to give you anything..... These aren't lies or excuses. And once again this wasn't a transaction of any sort so I don't feel like I'm obligated to give you anything.

You agreed that you'd help them transfer the $90 and then decided to keep it. How would that not be considered scamming?

You cant expect to just be given $90 and keep it regardless of what occurred in the past. If they did happen to owe you money you can provide proof and we can deduct from the $90, but you cant keep the $90 because that would just be stealing.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

You agreed that you'd help them transfer the $90 and then decided to keep it. How would that not be considered scamming?

You cant expect to just be given $90 and keep it regardless of what occurred in the past. If they did happen to owe you money you can provide proof and we can deduct from the $90, but you cant keep the $90 because that would just be stealing.

Well, he still owes me 5 on top of the fact that I'm not going to pay an additional 7 dollars to send it to him. If that were the case I would have just said no. Also I only got $80 back just like his last refund of $65. So if I were to give anything I'd send him 75$ G&S. I don't see how this is fair though. If I were to just say no then he simply would not have ever seen the money anyway cause it's locked.

 

[giuliana]

Well, he still owes me 5 on top of the fact that I'm not going to pay an additional 7 dollars to send it to him. If that were the case I would have just said no. Also I only got $80 back just like his last refund of $65. So if I were to give anything I'd send him 75$ G&S. I don't see how this is fair though. If I were to just say no then he simply would not have ever seen the money anyway cause it's locked.

I sent 90 just with the paypal fee the entire amount was refunded to your bank account I should owe you supposed "5" that paypal charged for sending the money for me to receive in this case 70 usd but it doesn't bother me to finish the matter that send 85$ the only reason why he did not receive the partial refund along with the commissions was because I reimbursed him with a different payment but this is not the case he received the full amount even with the paypal fee so if he is going to continue insisting with the 75 usd that only 5 are missing, because I sent 70 that he has already received so I accept that he only gave me 85 but 75 is abusive he has no reason to do this lmao

 

[giuliana]

Well, he still owes me 5 on top of the fact that I'm not going to pay an additional 7 dollars to send it to him. If that were the case I would have just said no. Also I only got $80 back just like his last refund of $65. So if I were to give anything I'd send him 75$ G&S. I don't see how this is fair though. If I were to just say no then he simply would not have ever seen the money anyway cause it's locked.

Any update on this? and responding again to what the other user said, which he says that if he had said "no" it is false that he would not have seen the money I could ask any other person to help me get the money and not have this people, so I just hope that he does what he agreed to and stop being smart or

or that you have no obligation

 

[EpicNPC CM]

We will meet in the middle @Akwafina refund $80 please

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

We will meet in the middle @Akwafina refund $80 please

And what if I don't? Am I liable for a ban in this situation?

 

[giuliana]

And what if I don't? Am I liable for a ban in this situation?

seriously questions?

And what if I don't? Am I liable for a ban in this situation?

you are scamming lol

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

seriously questions?


you are scamming lol

I'm asking a legitimate question.

 

[giuliana]

I'm asking a legitimate question.

You said if they "instruct" me to return it to you, I will do it, but you intend to make me continue wasting my time and the admin, in case you are getting money from this situation and you literally continue with the same

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

You said if they "instruct" me to return it to you, I will do it, but you intend to make me continue wasting my time and the admin, in case you are getting money from this situation and you literally continue with the same

 

[giuliana]

You have no reason to keep wasting your time if you don't want the obvious, which is to get banned

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

You have no reason to keep wasting your time if you don't want the obvious, which is to get banned

I will wait till until I get the word, and even then I'd still have to wait 2 weeks to get it to you when I get paid

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Akwafina yes, you would be banned if you fail to resolve. You offered to help someone transfer money, and then decided to keep it after they sent it to you. That is scamming.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

@Akwafina yes, you would be banned if you fail to resolve. You offered to help someone transfer money, and then decided to keep it after they sent it to you. That is scamming.

Well I've used the money and won't get paid till the 28th is that enough time to pay him back?

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

So glad I haven't sent any yet, another one of his accounts was pulled back. And no I do not want a replacement, I want a refund.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

Literally as I'm playing I get kicked off of the account. Pretty cool stuff.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

Do I make a separate dispute thread or what happens here?

 

[BoostingPrime]

Just wanted to say that as a fellow Paypal seller that has been banned aswell it has nothing to do with suspicious activity. It really depends on where you are from and how risky Paypal thinks your account is for them. Just check Paypal's trustpilot, there's ALOT of people complaining about getting their money frozen. When that happens the only option to get the money is to refund the clients on Paypal and have them send the money in alternative ways because the account itself doesnt allow withdraws or money transfers, only refunds.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

You can include all proof here @Akwafina

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

You can include all proof here @Akwafina

Well I'm not sure what I'm suppose to put here but the account in question is this one: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...aka-jade-cutter-ganyu-venti-250-wish.2297421/ (This is the most recent account that I lost.)
And this was the initial account that I bought that I lost that required me to get a replacement for the account above: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-28x5-xiao-c2-pjws-ayak-c1-mist-zhongli-raiden-yae-venti.2281192/
The account we are discussing here is the C2 Xiao account that initially got pulled back. Apparently he's bought multiple accounts and he has multiple issues outside of mine buying from this supplier. Aside from that, I was just logged out of the account, I got kicked off mid domain I'm thinking there was like maintenance or something but after trying to login I couldn't. So I checked my email and nothing was there. He also tried to give me a 30-day window of not refunding me cause you know he has no integrity or anything and wanted to get away with selling another unsafe account. Thank god for whatever clown took it back before that window even though I think trying to give a 30 day warranty isn't exactly in lined with the rules and can't actually be enforced.

 

[giuliana]

how can you prove that you have lost this account and it is not just an attempt to keep the money and the account anyway? I know who I got this account from and I gave it to you specifically because I knew it wouldn't open issues, this is ridiculous

 

[giuliana]

This is still an attempt by you to keep the money and the account, it's ridiculous that you lost this account too

 

[giuliana]

 

[giuliana]

Just to clarify the alleged loss of this user who is obviously an abused and liar, I just verified the user of the account I gave him and obviously he has the same email, so obviously he is lying to keep avoiding sending the money, he has property in the account, and I do not want to waste time with this abused anymore

 

[giuliana]

here you can check the login that I gave him and the email that was linked, taking into account that the initials and the last letters match his email it is obvious that he still maintains the account, if the email "changes magically after him see this comment is the same wanting to change the email"

 

[giuliana]

@

I already sent proof, this guy still has the account on his property if he is going to make an attempt to "recall the account to turn this ***** around" at least change the email, but nom, he didn't keep giving excuses and pretexts to don't send the money so I won't waste any more time with it, we agreed 80 usd and I want you to send it to me" apart from that you were abused you spent my money and I definitely won't wait 2 weeks for a person who has only been making fun of this dispute .

 

[giuliana]

Well I'm not sure what I'm suppose to put here but the account in question is this one: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...aka-jade-cutter-ganyu-venti-250-wish.2297421/ (This is the most recent account that I lost.)
And this was the initial account that I bought that I lost that required me to get a replacement for the account above: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-28x5-xiao-c2-pjws-ayak-c1-mist-zhongli-raiden-yae-venti.2281192/
The account we are discussing here is the C2 Xiao account that initially got pulled back. Apparently he's bought multiple accounts and he has multiple issues outside of mine buying from this supplier. Aside from that, I was just logged out of the account, I got kicked off mid domain I'm thinking there was like maintenance or something but after trying to login I couldn't. So I checked my email and nothing was there. He also tried to give me a 30-day window of not refunding me cause you know he has no integrity or anything and wanted to get away with selling another unsafe account. Thank god for whatever clown took it back before that window even though I think trying to give a 30 day warranty isn't exactly in lined with the rules and can't actually be enforced.

To clarify the supposed obligation that I gave him of a replacement, it was never an obligation, I kindly told him why he gave that option of a replacement, I told him to choose an account from my profile without me choosing anything, and he specifically chose this account, let to change your words as if I had forced you to do something, it was all your decision

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

Yes my email is as stated in the picture above, however my email isn't what is linked to the hoyoverse account

 

[giuliana]

Yes my email is as stated in the picture above, however my email isn't what is linked to the hoyoverse account

I sent a screenshot logging in with your username and it's the same email, when I'm going to forget the password stop trying to change things

 

[giuliana]

obviously there is a genshin impact account linked to his gmail account and it is the account that I gave him, because he started with the account user

 

[giuliana]

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

I sent a screenshot logging in with your username and it's the same email, when I'm going to forget the password stop trying to change things

So you know the person personally so it wouldn't be farfetched to say you changed the gmail to something that is similar to mine? Also if it were an attempt to fake it I would have changed the email to something random.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

Also if you claim to "know them" why try to give me a 30-day warranty. Please stay consistent with your stories.

 

[giuliana]

you are asking for a refund without justification you have not lost count as you announce in the dispute, it is just your need to waste time here,

yes, I always change the email of all the people when I go to sell so that they do not try what you are doing "an attempt that your account was recalled" and it has not been like that

 

[giuliana]

I gave him a 30-day guarantee and I will not be the first or the second seller who does it, because there are people who are not even responsible and continue to come here on the site, it is up to the buyer to accept or not the terms that are clearly mentioned before that the person receives the account, so if you have accepted, it is your problem as simple as that, I am also a buyer and I also put myself at risk when buying accounts

 

[giuliana]

Also if you claim to "know them" why try to give me a 30-day warranty. Please stay consistent with your stories.

Don't try to fake the email change, because I even have a video going in trying to change the password. It's just you again wanting to evade that you are being a potential scammer and besides being a liar for taking my 90 usd, you spend it, you force me to make a dispute, you pretend that your account was withdrawn, brother, do you have anything to do with your life? to continue wasting my time, in short, you have not lost the account and you are not going to lose it, you have 90 usd of mine that I see as unlikely that you will return it to me, so I simply wait for the prohibition of this user and not see him anymore

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

I gave him a 30-day guarantee and I will not be the first or the second seller who does it, because there are people who are not even responsible and continue to come here on the site, it is up to the buyer to accept or not the terms that are clearly mentioned before that the person receives the account, so if you have accepted, it is your problem as simple as that, I am also a buyer and I also put myself at risk when buying accounts

1. It hasn't been 30 days so even if that were the case, I'm still eligible, 2. I'm not an idiot, clearly once again if it were my intention to fake as if it were recalled I wouldn't have kept the email the same, or even similar for that matter.

 

[giuliana]

1. It hasn't been 30 days so even if that were the case, I'm still eligible, 2. I'm not an idiot, clearly once again if it were my intention to fake as if it were recalled I wouldn't have kept the email the same, or even similar for that matter.

You still have the account linked to your email, you have not lost it as you advertised, if that were the case, it would not have your email linked, but if it does, you are not entitled to request a refund and again, you are wasting your time, you say that they expel you from the account when the only way that happens is that it has a linked psn,

and I gave you the account the account without links, you're not posting proof of anything, you just talk and blah

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

You still have the account linked to your email, you have not lost it as you advertised, if that were the case, it would not have your email linked, but if it does, you are not entitled to request a refund and again, you are wasting your time, you say that they expel you from the account when the only way that happens is that it has a linked psn, and I didn't give you the account without links, you're not posting proof of anything, you just talk and blah

Funny you say that actually, because of the account that pulled back, I made sure to check everything this time. And what do you know there was in fact a PSN account linked to the account. I don't know exactly what you meant by expel me from the account all I know is I cannot use it anymore or log into for that matter. Info was clearly changed. Cropped it just for you so theres no excuses with UID etc.

 

[giuliana]

Funny you say that actually, because of the account that pulled back, I made sure to check everything this time. And what do you know there was in fact a PSN account linked to the account. I don't know exactly what you meant by expel me from the account all I know is I cannot use it anymore or log into for that matter. Info was clearly changed. Cropped it just for you so theres no excuses with UID etc.

friend the account did not have psn linked stop inventing nonsense

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

friend the account did not have psn linked stop inventing nonsense

So would you like me to get the full non-cropped version so you can see the UID as well?

 

[giuliana]

So would you like me to get the full non-cropped version so you can see the UID as well?

I gave you the account without links if you linked a psn, it would have been on your own but I didn't give it to you like that, and if you are going to post any proof then do it because you are just talking

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

I gave you the account without links if you linked a psn, it would have been on your own but I didn't give it to you like that, and if you are going to post any proof then do it because you are just talking

Then it must have been unlinked, which isn't uncommon. Maybe you don't know this person like you think you do.

 

[giuliana]

Friend, knowing who you are, too worried and you spend all your time asking a thousand questions. when I gave you the account you didn't ask a single question, because clearly there was no link to the account, you're making up this whole story to have the money and the account, lol

Then it must have been unlinked, which isn't uncommon. Maybe you don't know this person like you think you do.

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

Friend, knowing who you are, too worried and you spend all your time asking a thousand questions. when I gave you the account you didn't ask a single question, because clearly there was no link to the account, you're making up this whole story to have the money and the account, lol

I mean there wasn't any links besides the usual stuff, still doesn't mean there wasn't an account linked to a psn previously. Stop playing dumb, you buy and sell plenty of these accounts, did I photoshop this picture or something??? Lmao

 

[giuliana]

I mean there wasn't any links besides the usual stuff, still doesn't mean there wasn't an account linked to a psn previously. Stop playing dumb, you buy and sell plenty of these accounts, did I photoshop this picture or something??? Lmao

you are saying that your account currently has psn linked and i sold it to you without links if you drop that message to remove friends it is probably that the previous owner played with psn, but that has nothing to do with me, nor with this dispute since the account was given to him without links, so I don't know what you are trying

 

[giuliana]

again I say again all your claims are without justification and meaningless, I gave you the account without links you did not bother me or say anything for days, now that you must pay you are looking for anything to keep the money,

I will say again your account has no problem, I sold it to you without links there is no proof on your part that you do not have "access" and if they analyze all you are doing is evading the refund and ending up earning an account and money, so no friend waste more time and I am not interested in anything you are saying, you owe some money and you must pay it, your account has no problems, I already sent screenshots with your email linked there, I await a response from the admin, that's all

 

[Akwafina]

Banned - Failed to resolve dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-gave-him-a-90-refund-and-he-refuses-to-return-it-akwafina.2312951/page-9

you are saying that your account currently has psn linked and i sold it to you without links if you drop that message to remove friends it is probably that the previous owner played with psn, but that has nothing to do with me, nor with this dispute since the account was given to him without links, so I don't know what you are trying

So the person you bought it off of wasn't even the original owner either..... Like what is wrong with you. This is like a 4th hand account and you're acting as if you bought it from the original owner or something. Again the account was given without any links besides name, mihoyo bd etc the normal stuff. That does not mean the account cannot be pulled back. Stop trying to find different caveats to justify why the account is safe which it clearly isn't. Knowing how salty you are I wouldn't hand the money over right away you prob messaged the guy you bought it off of since you "know them"