False feedback

[Lyran]

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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

I sold two accounts to @superduperfly on Jun 8, 2021. I gave him all account info and access.. he confirmed everything and proceed to change everything, as he should.

Now, more than a Year late he wants to make ME responsible for his "account being stolen". I demand proof that I did it, since he has the same infos on the account that I have and can easily get it back. I no longer have nothing to do with him and as soon as I saw the report, I blocked him in Discord to avoid any further issues, since he didnt contacted me first to try and resolve it.

I never had ANY issues with my sales, not even when it was private server ones.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@superduperfly

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Removed no response

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

May I ask to remove the negative comment as well? Its on: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/epic-account-over-30-characters-only-owner.1865332/

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Removed

 

[superduperfly]

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I cannot login to the accounts he recovered, i asked him about this on discord, he ended up just blocking me since he knows he scammed me

 

[superduperfly]

You can see he blocked me without replying

 

[superduperfly]

Proof this was the email and password for the account and was recovered by the seller

 

[superduperfly]

I would add the second account on here, but since that was not sold to me on here, I didn't add it; this should be enough to show you that this seller not only recovered the account but tried to ignore me when I confronted them about it by just flat out blocking me.

 

[superduperfly]

I find his statement funny about claiming the accounts were "Stolen" when the accounts had 2-factor authentication on them; the only way these accounts could have been taken over is via account recovery.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

I find his statement funny about claiming the accounts were "Stolen" when the accounts had 2-factor authentication on them; the only way these accounts could have been taken over is via account recovery.

After more than a year, you want to accuse me of retrieving the accounts.. You could have sold them, you could have the info hacked, and a lot of possibilities...

I gave you ALL the account information on the day of the transaction, the same power I had to retrieve them, YOU HAD TOO... So dont go blaming me after all those months.. Contact Blizzard and ask them to get it for you and stop wasting my time with lies.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Lyran are you the OO?

 

[superduperfly]

After more than a year, you want to accuse me of retrieving the accounts.. You could have sold them, you could have the info hacked, and a lot of possibilities...

I gave you ALL the account information on the day of the transaction, the same power I had to retrieve them, YOU HAD TOO... So dont go blaming me after all those months.. Contact Blizzard and ask them to get it for you and stop wasting my time with lies.

How exactly do you expect me to contact Blizzard to recover them when the accounts are in your name with your birthdate... stop pretending like you didn't recover the accounts. I don't even care about the money at this point, I just want you exposed for being a fraud. What exactly would be the point of me coming back one year later just to leave negative feedback it doesn't even make sense what you're saying; I literally gain nothing from this other than exposing you, so others don't have to deal with you. I didn't ask you for anything; you ignored my messages because you knew exactly what you did. You're the Original owner of this account. You're the only person that is capable of recovering it as it requires your identification. You recovered them because you knew there was no way to charge back the money at this point.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

@Lyran are you the OO?

Yes.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

How exactly do you expect me to contact Blizzard to recover them when the accounts are in your name with your birthdate... stop pretending like you didn't recover the accounts. I don't even care about the money at this point, I just want you exposed for being a fraud. What exactly would be the point of me coming back one year later just to leave negative feedback it doesn't even make sense what you're saying; I literally gain nothing from this other than exposing you, so others don't have to deal with you. I didn't ask you for anything; you ignored my messages because you knew exactly what you did. You're the Original owner of this account. You're the only person that is capable of recovering it as it requires your identification. You recovered them because you knew there was no way to charge back the money at this point.

You say that only I could, that it was me, etc, etc,etc... Provide proof or stop bothering me.

@superduperfly I ask that he provides evidence or finish this thread. I dont have time to debate with someone that can only lie.
I wont pursue this matter anymore, feel free to act according to the rules.

He is not my only client in this website but is the ONLY ONE that came back complaining and after more than a Year... Like I said, I wont pursue this matter anymore.

 

[superduperfly]

You still have not answered the main question, "why would I lie"? What would I gain from it? There is literally no reason why I would come back a year later for no reason to leave bad feedback unless something actually happened.

The way you act is a sign of guilt, any person that cared enough would simply resolve the issue, but you're in full defensive mode, which is a psychological action when someone is guilty of the accused actions. Any logical seller would have resolved the issue, but you just choose to say " Do what you want to me, I don't care to resolve it". This is just sign of guilt alone.

You don't get to decide here what is closed and what's not closed; the administrator will be the one to decide that.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

You still have not answered the main question, "why would I lie"? What would I gain from it? There is literally no reason why I would come back a year later for no reason to leave bad feedback unless something actually happened.

The way you act is a sign of guilt, any person that cared enough would simply resolve the issue, but you're in full defensive mode, which is a psychological action when someone is guilty of the accused actions. Any logical seller would have resolved the issue, but you just choose to say " Do what you want to me, I don't care to resolve it". This is just sign of guilt alone.

You don't get to decide here what is closed and what's not closed; the administrator will be the one to decide that.

Its a sign that you are not worthy my time.. You never came to me asking if I knew something happened, If by any chance I could do something to help... You just accused me and thats it... I have no patience for people like this... less so for a person that comes more than a year late without any proof.... So

This is my last reply to you... Dont bother me again, dont insult me again.. If you have any proof whatsoever, bring it to the table.. Otherwise...scram...

@superduperfly I ask that this matter is put to rest unless he has something concrete to present..otherwise will just be him talking here without any proof... If I get insulted again, I ask that you enforce the forum rules.

Thanks

 

[superduperfly]

You can see his Character names here; you can check the first character, the warrior in wow Armory profiles, and see that there is gear from recent on his character, meaning he has been playing this account as of recent time two of the 249 rings are from heroic dungeons, which are extremely recent since patch for season 4 which released Tuesday, August 2nd, 2022., meaning he has been playing this account as of recently.

 

[superduperfly]

Proof of heroic 249 pieces from current patch 9.2.5 that released August 2nd 2022

 

[superduperfly]

Its a sign that you are not worthy my time.. You never came to me asking if I knew something happened, If by any chance I could do something to help... You just accused me and thats it... I have no patience for people like this... less so for a person that comes more than a year late without any proof.... So

This is my last reply to you... Dont bother me again, dont insult me again.. If you have any proof whatsoever, bring it to the table.. Otherwise...scram...

@superduperfly I ask that this matter is put to rest unless he has something concrete to present..otherwise will just be him talking here without any proof... If I get insulted again, I ask that you enforce the forum rules.

Thanks

No one is insulting you but yourself, you know what you did, you choose these actions yourself, I have already proved it beyond a doubt, it's just a matter of them enforcing the rules and removing you from this platform so that you can't do this to others. It's very evident aside from the evidence I have provided that you're guilty as sin.

I enjoy seeing you act like this, it's nice to see you get exposed for what you did. You not only recover one account, but you recover the two of them that you sold me. I can careless about the money lost, I just want to see you punished for your actions.

 

[superduperfly]

WOW look what we have here as of Sept 03 2022 you got exploration achievements in shadowlands... funny how did that happen? I guess a ghost just started using the account, huh? Coincidentally the day after the feedback was removed.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Lyran please recover and return the account to the buyer

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

@Lyran please recover and return the account to the buyer

That I can't do... 2 reasons, I dont have infos anymore (i dont keep backups of any account past 6 months, duo to security reasons)

and second, its not my responsability anymore..

third, i dont feel like helping him AT ALL after all this.

I dont know how the rules are for this case, but no, he has all infos, have everything he need (unless he sold the account, got hacked, or whatever)... i wont help him anymore...

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Please post the sales thread.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

I believe it is https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/epic-account-over-30-characters-only-owner.1865332/

 

[superduperfly]

He claimed it was his account on his original post where I purchased it; now he claims he doesn't have the info anymore, then he claims he just doesn't want to help recover the account he already recovered.

This man is a POS. Please ban this scum bag already, clearly, this person is a scammer. Already caught him in several lies already and clearly pointed them out. This forum should not allow such users to post on this forum.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

He claimed it was his account on his original post where I purchased it; now he claims he doesn't have the info anymore, then he claims he just doesn't want to help recover the account he already recovered.

This man is a POS. Please ban this scum bag already, clearly, this person is a scammer. Already caught him in several lies already and clearly pointed them out. This forum should not allow such users to post on this forum.

Oh yes, please ban me, based on the words of a no proof dude that keeps crying... please do me this favor so i dont have to read this anymore. Do better, delete the account and block me.. :')

Dude probably tried to sold the account and got scammed and now came back crying... please dude... Grow up...

I dont have the infos cause I dont remember them all, yes, I could TRY to go there and try to help you recover then.. BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY MY TIME... i said this already..

Deal with it as you like @superduperfly, i wont help him more than I have nor do I have anything else related to those account anymore...

 

[superduperfly]

Cool, glad we can see you're just as toxic as you are a scammer.

You being banned is enough for me.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

Cool, glad we can see you're just as toxic as you are a scammer.

You being banned is enough for me.

You are just annoying... Thats it... Go find a girlfriend or someting..forget about me... really.. you are not my type....

 

[superduperfly]

Enjoy your ban.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

Enjoy your ban.

Oh, dont worry, being banned without any proof just cause you lfet pity towards him... go on a date already..

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

You know there are rules for ban right? And you didnt prove ****... Just crying.. =(

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Lyran You listed the account as you being the original owner, so you were the original owner correct?

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

@Lyran You listed the account as you being the original owner, so you were the original owner correct?

Yes.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Please contact support to see if you can get the account back.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

Please contact support to see if you can get the account back.

After all he did, I shouldnt.. and I dont feel like it.. But i will... No promises tough...

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

@superduperfly Send account infos on my PM here on forum...

 

[superduperfly]

The account info is the account in you used to create the account originally since the account was recovered by you. How would I know what email address you used to create this account with?

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

Please contact support to see if you can get the account back.

Look... even after all he said without any proof, I still was going to help cause you asked... I asked the infos, he replied accusing me AGAIN... So no.. I wont be helping him anymore, i wont contact support or anything... He is on his own..

I would like to ask you, how long is a seller supposed to give support to a customer? Cause its been more than a year and I dont even know what he did to the account or not.

So, I wont pursue this matter anymore, i wont help him in any way..

You can proceed as you like... If by not helping him ater all this time and all stuff he said without proof is a violation of the rules, please enforce them as you see fit... I am tired of him.... Thanks.

 

[superduperfly]

All the proof needed is actually already posted in the thread; you're saying there is "No proof" is just gibberish; you know what you did; it's clear from all the evidence provided throughout this thread. You either return the account or get banned; if it was my choice, you would be banned for scamming period, recovered account or not you still attempted to scam me period, you shouldn't even get a chance to redeem yourself because if you did it to me, you would do it to someone else. I'm sure you have other linked accounts with your brother on here, too, who also scammed me for his account, so hopefully, they have the tools to link accounts via tracking data and IP data history to eliminate the both of you.

What did you think? Do you think you were just going to recover the account and go along your way... No Chance. You might have got the money, but I got to expose you.

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

All the proof needed is actually already posted in the thread; you're saying there is "No proof" is just gibberish; you know what you did; it's clear from all the evidence provided throughout this thread. You either return the account or get banned; if it was my choice, you would be banned for scamming period, recovered account or not you still attempted to scam me period, you shouldn't even get a chance to redeem yourself because if you did it to me, you would do it to someone else. I'm sure you have other linked accounts with your brother on here, too, who also scammed me for his account, so hopefully, they have the tools to link accounts via tracking data and IP data history to eliminate the both of you.

What did you think? Do you think you were just going to recover the account and go along your way... No Chance. You might have got the money, but I got to expose you.

Now you are just embarassing youself... =)

Think whatever you want, say whatever you want... I dont care about you... =)

Go find someone to love dude... Im taken already...

o/

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Please recover the account as you are the OO

 

[Lyran]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/false-feedback.2310840/page-2

Please recover the account as you are the OO

Thats my final saying on the matter..thanks..

 

[superduperfly]

Please recover the account as you are the OO

Please ban this person clearly, he has zero intention of handing back the account he already recovered and scammed me with. This nonsense with this scammer has gone on long enough.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

banned

Lyran
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