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Email Attached to Account Recovered

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Scam Accusation

Wrecked_

Level 26

Trade Guardian Orders: 4

(100%) (2 reviews)
Country
United States
Member Since
May 29, 2018
Country
United States
Multiple Accounts
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Purchase Date: 6/12/18
Date the problem begain: 6/14/18
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Your Instant Messenger ID: Wre©ked#1002
Instant Messenger username of the person you are accusing: Kurz0h#8038
Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1303160-💯-Fortnite-Accounts💯 https://www.epicnpc.com/conversations.php?do=view&id=1138395
Approximate value of property: $500.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? If so, what is the TG ID# Yes, (was unable to find TG ID. Please tell me where to locate it and I will add it)

What is the dispute about? The email linked to the fortnite account was recovered.

Other details / notes: The email account email was linked to a foreign ISP company. After the account was recovered I investigated further into how they were able to do it after linking my own email as the recovery. I found out the email address associated with the account was linked to a foreign (french) ISP service provided. There is a master account that can be logged into and control all the sub-accounts under it. I will provide proof below of how the email account was reset even after the password was changed and I added a backup email.

The seller has been working with me to attempt to get the email changed to a new email address by contacting epic support then say he says will transfer the email information to once it's completed. It has taken days now and every day he tells me it will be another day. (I can provide proof of this but I have run out of images on the thread)

Disclaimer: As of now the fortnite account has not been recovered. Fortnite has no way to change the email address on the account page therefore the account can be recovered at any time because I no longer have access to the email. Regardless of still having the fortnite account, I would never have purchased the account without email access, therefore, I would like my money back. I would be happy to provide the seller with the login information to the account once the money is returned.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
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These next screenshots I explain how I found out the account could still be recovered (I will also attach screenshots showing the process):
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These screenshots layout the process of how to recover the account even after recovery email was changed:

This image shows there was an admin account for the ISP provider which I did not have access to:

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These screenshots were taken post account recovery. That is not my phone number linked and the new email linked was the master account email.

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Proof of payment:
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Other proof:

Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he is the original owner? (provide proof): Seller said his IRL friend was the original owner. It is stated in the screenshots above.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Epic games login and linked email Login
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? A day and a half
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it. N/A
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

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Additional proof of the emails I received when the account info was changed (Could not attach above as there is a 10 image limit)

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1324422
Guy trying scam me, I said him before he buy no refunds because I give him email with full access and he want get money back and he still have access to account, also I sold 30 accounts in month and never got problem like this
 
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No one is trying to scam. I have been working with you for over a week. You told me countless times you were contacting support in attempts to get the account email changed. Every time I asked the status you told me "It will for sure be done tomorrow". I am not paying for an account that is not secure, that's ridiculous. As a seller, you are responsible for the account and a day after I purchase it the email got recovered? If you were able to get the email changed by customer service and provided me with the login info for it we would not be here right now ( I even stated that multiple times over discord ) but I am done waiting.
 
Worked with this seller once. While he is from Russia, I need to say that the account that was posted to me had an Polish Email (02.PL), now looking at this trade I see that email is orange.FR

My question to the seller is where are you getting these accounts from? You are from Russia, and these account are from people from all over the world which doesn't make sense.

I have my doubts about you being able to recover these accounts as they don't belong to you and I would like to know how exactly you obtained these accounts? If it's a buying thread on internet - post links where you have threads saying that you're buying these accounts and proof that they were actually sold to you.


The "no refund policy" is not working here, especially for 500$ accounts that comes with an email that you're not even the owner of. And there is literally nothing you can do to stop those accounts from getting recovered by the people that you 'obtained' them from. So saying "no refunds because full access is provided" will not work here.
 
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And I don’t buy on forums, I bought from some verified guys, who selling legit

I have hard time believing what you're saying. And I don't see how people from Poland and France could have connections with you if you didn't advertise anywhere.

The screenshots that this guy provided are showing that he is buying them off a russian dude:

Kurz0h asks A RUSSIAN SPEAKING GUY if the account is HIS OWN and the RUSSIAN GUY says YES, then he provides account info with email that is used in FRANCE. I mean come on, is this a kindergarten or what?



On a side note, YOU MUST remove any sings of "No refunds" from all your threads, neither you, nor your "seller" are original owners of these accounts. And simply saying that by giving email info you guarante that a recall isn't possible - is not what is allowed here.

Issue refund to the buyer, remove all the false information from your threads regarding full access to email and no refunds bs .

The admin will still look at this thread and will make final decision. As of now you owe a full refund to the buyer.
 
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At this point the seller has blocked communication with me on discord. I am skeptical he going to issue the refund. How long should I wait before contacting Paypal / My bank to issue a charge back?

Thank you guys for helping with this. Its greatly appreciated.
 
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User banned:

Kurz0h
[email protected]
Kurz0h#8038 - DISCORD
BalmainM8 - KIK
live:basedgodkurzoh - SKYPE

File a PayPal chargeback and let us know how it goes.

Banned for false advertising and false claims. Banned for selling possible *******/stolen accounts.
 
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Unfortunately it is going to be really hard to get my money back. The payment was sent as friends and family through Paypal. Thankfully I paid with my credit card on paypal so I will be contacting my CC compay to try and charge the payment back.

Really appreciate you all looking out for your buyers on this site. I will keep you updated with the outcome! Thanks again.
 
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