Creating members to scam people

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Pattiboi

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Information
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Purchase Date: January 15,2023
Date the problem began: January 20, 2023
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Epic chat, discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]
kingmootoo
Your Instant Messenger ID: Pattiboi

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):https://www.epicnpc.com/chat/?type=tg&group=2768971
Approximate value of property: $200.00USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? 71661

What is the dispute about?
Account was shared with another person
Other details / notes:
Sold me a shared account. Asked for a refund. They said yes but I’ll have to give the account back. Account was given back and as soon as they got it, no replies ever since.

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Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
Twitter log in
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
6 days
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Can you provide proof the acount was shared?
Can you provide proof I said I was the original owner ?
Btw , I have a lot of **** to deal with so don't get on my **** cuz I can't respond for a couple days lmfao
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Provide proof I took the twitter login?
I never took it just saw it then it wouldnt work told you twice after that I realized you were just trolling me cuh
 
Wow nice excuses bud. As soon as I give the twitter back, I’m unable to log in. Everything’s changed. Are you trying to say that something happened just as I gave you the account? I’m not sure if you really think everyone else is ignorant or what but I believe you can at least come up with a better excuse. As for the 200, no need to refund. I’ll just pretend this money is given to a person in need. We can just keep this up so people will know to be extra cautious when doing business with you.
 
As for proof of account shared, wow. The fact that there’s literally a tag there, in the users profile, the next day I log in saying selling account for 150 usd is absurd. Not to say they keep changing it each day like “cry lol”. As for original owner, I know that you’re not the original owner that’s why I took it to trade guardian, for safety. I specifically asked what other log ins there is and you said a dead fb that’s not going to be used. You wanna look back?
 
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As for giving you couple of days to respond, dude opening discord and saying “sorry I’m busy and need more days” just takes you like 2 min
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
As for proof of account shared, wow. The fact that there’s literally a tag there, in the users profile, the next day I log in saying selling account for 150 usd is absurd. Not to say they keep changing it each day like “cry lol”. As for original owner, I know that you’re not the original owner that’s why I took it to trade guardian, for safety. I specifically asked what other log ins there is and you said a dead fb that’s not going to be used. You wanna look back?
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Absolutely can you prove they were any problems with the account? seems like your making it up lmfaoo
 
Why would I make things up? I got this account for 200 and there’s no point of just returning it since it’s worth more. The price went from 125, then to 200, which I still agreed just due to how many skin it has. By the time of transfer, middleman noticed a different log in, we asked and you said it’s a dead log in. We checked if it’s going to be safe and you said that twitter is the only log in now. For the first few days, it’s going fine. Afterwards, I notice random game popping up when I log in. The next day, I saw my in game credibility to 65, causing me unable to join any game, now making the account useless cause all I can do now is play with bots. After that, the other person literally leaves a message in user board saying “cry lol” and next day, it turned to “150usd for this acc”. I tried for return and you’re saying things with PayPal have to make you wait until Feb 8, around weeks, before you can do anything. I waited and until around the beginning of February, you’re telling me to give the account to you first, before the refund. Was hesitant but still gave you the username and password. You said it’s wrong but somehow, I can still log in using the same password. After I showed you the email, however, and changing it to a easier password, the account suddenly is gone and I can’t log in? What a coincidence! I though you were in since you said nothing afterwards about not being able to get in. After that, you just went silence for 2-3 days. I’m just doing this so you wouldn’t be able to scam other people on this platform. 200 is nothing for me. Just don’t like being scammed.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
Why would I make things up? I got this account for 200 and there’s no point of just returning it since it’s worth more. The price went from 125, then to 200, which I still agreed just due to how many skin it has. By the time of transfer, middleman noticed a different log in, we asked and you said it’s a dead log in. We checked if it’s going to be safe and you said that twitter is the only log in now. For the first few days, it’s going fine. Afterwards, I notice random game popping up when I log in. The next day, I saw my in game credibility to 65, causing me unable to join any game, now making the account useless cause all I can do now is play with bots. After that, the other person literally leaves a message in user board saying “cry lol” and next day, it turned to “150usd for this acc”. I tried for return and you’re saying things with PayPal have to make you wait until Feb 8, around weeks, before you can do anything. I waited and until around the beginning of February, you’re telling me to give the account to you first, before the refund. Was hesitant but still gave you the username and password. You said it’s wrong but somehow, I can still log in using the same password. After I showed you the email, however, and changing it to a easier password, the account suddenly is gone and I can’t log in? What a coincidence! I though you were in since you said nothing afterwards about not being able to get in. After that, you just went silence for 2-3 days. I’m just doing this so you wouldn’t be able to scam other people on this platform. 200 is nothing for me. Just don’t like being scammed.
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completely false first claim , the middleman noticed there were other sign in methods thats all.
you could make these up but the point being you can't prove anything.
 
Of course I can’t prove anything now that the account is gone. Just bought another account and everything is going smooth. As for you, mind letting us know who you got this account from? Also noticed that your post for that account is exactly the same as someone else’s post. Not a word difference. Maybe you bought it from that dude and you’re selling it out to me because you noticed that it’s also being used by someone else? If you wanna keep going, I can drag this on. Just acknowledge that you scammed me for that little 200usd and move on.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
Of course I can’t prove anything now that the account is gone. Just bought another account and everything is going smooth. As for you, mind letting us know who you got this account from? Also noticed that your post for that account is exactly the same as someone else’s post. Not a word difference. Maybe you bought it from that dude and you’re selling it out to me because you noticed that it’s also being used by someone else? If you wanna keep going, I can drag this on. Just acknowledge that you scammed me for that little 200usd and move on.
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happy you got another account
 
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Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
EpicNPC CM said:
@kingmootoo did you purchase the account from someone on our site?
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nope got it from a dude on discord
 
I gave him the account username and password. He said it’s wrong. I changed the password to something easier and showed him the email. Afterwards he said he needs to go and stopped talking for like 2-3days. I tried to log back on but system tells me wrong information and no existing account. So yes, account was returned since everything got changed once I gave him the account informations. Including phone number, email, and all that. But I never received a refund. He keeps saying that he never received the account but how is it possible, that as soon as I gave him the account informations, not long after, I can’t log in at all. Do note that it has been fine for almost weeks before anything, where I didn’t share the account informations( twitter log in).
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
I gave him the account username and password. He said it’s wrong. I changed the password to something easier and showed him the email. Afterwards he said he needs to go and stopped talking for like 2-3days. I tried to log back on but system tells me wrong information and no existing account. So yes, account was returned since everything got changed once I gave him the account informations. Including phone number, email, and all that. But I never received a refund. He keeps saying that he never received the account but how is it possible, that as soon as I gave him the account informations, not long after, I can’t log in at all. Do note that it has been fine for almost weeks before anything, where I didn’t share the account informations( twitter log in).
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thats completely false he first gave me the password that did not work then I wasnt there for a couple days came back told him it didnt he changed the password told him it still didnt work then I just stopped messaging him.
 
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Lol. Wow. Nice lie. You first said password wasn’t correct. I tried, I logged in. I then changed the password to something easier, showed you the account email since you might’ve forgotten it, and posted it all on discord. Not a thing was said afterwards. You did not come back and tell me anything. You just left me hanging there for days as soon as I gave you all the informations.
 
As for this, I am dragging this on however long I can. Not for the money. Just because I got scammed, you lied, and I just want to make sure people are cautious before doing any business with the likes of you
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
As for this, I am dragging this on however long I can. Not for the money. Just because I got scammed, you lied, and I just want to make sure people are cautious before doing any business with the likes of you
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You just admitted to wanting to drag this on for no reason.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
Lol. Wow. Nice lie. You first said password wasn’t correct. I tried, I logged in. I then changed the password to something easier, showed you the account email since you might’ve forgotten it, and posted it all on discord. Not a thing was said afterwards. You did not come back and tell me anything. You just left me hanging there for days as soon as I gave you all
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You had access to the account the whole time then you pushed me into doing me when I was clearly busy I tried didnt work told you and ghosted you afterwards you cant prove i logged nor anything else so your obviously making baseless claims
 
well of course that’s what you’ll say. The account information was changed immediately, I repeat, immediately, after I showed everything and you went ghosting. Cannot log in whatsoever so I had to buy another account to play.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
well of course that’s what you’ll say. The account information was changed immediately, I repeat, immediately, after I showed everything and you went ghosting. Cannot log in whatsoever so I had to buy another account to play.
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can you prove it?
 
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ill rephrase it can you prove that I was the one changing any credentials ?
 
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How can I prove it? It’s gone. I don’t have to account anymore. Although I have to say, nice scam buddy. I’m glad how you had time to go on epicnpc and do things and not answer any of my discord, during the time where you say you’re so busy that you can’t answer my discord for days. I bet you wouldn’t answer anything if I haven’t brought this up and try to get you banned from here.
 
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For you to ask me to prove my credentials after it’s all gone just shows how poorly educated a person can be. I’ll say this one more time. After I posted the account, on discord, to you, the account is gone. I cannot log in afterwards whatsoever. Now, unless you’re going to say that the account is hacked right after I give you everything to access the account, all I can say is good job.
 
I posted the log in to twitter, which states the account does not exist. You’re saying that that doesn’t prove anything. I’ll like to ask you, if that doesn’t prove that I don’t have the account, what can? There’s nothing I have to prove that I have the account in my possession also. So it can well be that you have the account but you just don’t want to refund me the payment because you too, we’re scammed by someone and you just want someone else to take that for you
 
As for getting from a friend, wow. Nice excuse. The fact that I found another post with the same exact account for sale and you posted the same thing goes to show how honest you can be lol.
 
Also, I like how you keep asking for me to prove it while you don’t want to show anything. Where’s the proof that you got it from a friend? Where’s the proof you didn’t have the account after I showed it to you? Where’s the proof that you weren’t lying, saying you’re busy, and when I waited for days for you to reply but you had all those time on epicnpc doing postings? Where’s the proof that you can’t log in when I posted everything you need to log in?
 
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I love how you want me to prove that you didn’t change anything but shouldn’t you be the one trying to prove that you didn’t change anything? I showed the discord screenshots that I gave you the username and password. You’re the only person that gets to see it. It’s all you saying that you can’t log in, how can I know that you’re not lying? Prove it to me that you don’t have it. If you’re going to just show me that you can’t log in like I did, and tell me that’s the proof, you need a doctor
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
As for getting from a friend, wow. Nice excuse. The fact that I found another post with the same exact account for sale and you posted the same thing goes to show how honest you can be lol.
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bro what? your trying to find anything to throw and its just not working as you answered my question ill just call a mod for a verdict because all your claims arent substantiated.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4
Pattiboi said:
I love how you want me to prove that you didn’t change anything but shouldn’t you be the one trying to prove that you didn’t change anything? I showed the discord screenshots that I gave you the username and password. You’re the only person that gets to see it. It’s all you saying that you can’t log in, how can I know that you’re not lying? Prove it to me that you don’t have it. If you’re going to just show me that you can’t log in like I did, and tell me that’s the proof, you need a doctor
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1. not guilty until proven guilty
2. proving the negative is simply a logical contradiction ill give you an example " you stole my account " " I didnt steal anything sir " " prove you didnt steal it "
 
Lol. Nice job. Same goes to you. I’m the one being scammed of my money. I’m just trying to get back what was originally mine. 1. Not guilty until proven guilty. You just assume that I’m lying and try to put very blame on me. Now how does that work? 2. Hello, wanna look back at your own statements?
The real deal is, I can’t prove that you did anything cause I’ve already given back what you gave. The twitter account. It is gone now. The account is no longer under my possession after I’ve shown you the log in informations. As for you can’t log in, isn’t that also just your own words? How can you prove it?
 
back there you said that your friend was the one that gave you the account, I’m curious, is your friend also a member of epicnpc? Cause I saw the exact same post before. I think I even have screenshots shared with me by that person that posted it. Note that that post was before you. I just trusted you because you have membership and we use trade guardian.
 
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Posted. It’s in discord. I posted the account log in informations. He keeps saying that he can’t log in, and that the password is wrong. However, the account log in informations was change right after I showed him those informations. I showed no one else those informations
 
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