Creating members to scam people

[EpicNPC CM]

@kingmootoo The sales thread lists you as the OO, https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/great-winrate-whale-account-426-skins.2412990/

If you're not the OO a full refund must be issued as it falls under false advertisement.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

@kingmootoo The sales thread lists you as the OO, https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/great-winrate-whale-account-426-skins.2412990/

If you're not the OO a full refund must be issued as it falls under false advertisement.

he has the account

 

[Adoxia]

he has the account

You posted you were the original owner when you were not. This falls under our false advertisement rule. If you were the original owner you could have resolved this issue by getting access to the account and simply returning it to him.

A full refund is owed. You can attempt to contact the games support to return the account to you. Failure to refund will result in a ban.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

You posted you were the original owner when you were not. This falls under our false advertisement rule. If you were the original owner you could have resolved this issue by getting access to the account and simply returning it to him.

A full refund is owed. You can attempt to contact the games support to return the account to you. Failure to refund will result in a ban.

he owns the account and theres practically no way of getting the account back

 

[Adoxia]

he owns the account and theres practically no way of getting the account back

Original owners can recall accounts through support. This is the case in just about every game. However, you claimed to be the original owner on your sale thread when you are not. This falls under our false advertising rule. You can contact the games support to try and recall the account. If you can't I would contact support to have the account banned.

You will still have to refund as you still falsely advertised your account.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

i simply checked the " original owner " thing without knowing what oge on aov means I couldnt edit afterwards and since I though there was no editing of threads I didnt change it but told the buyer. I also am the oge as I kept contact with the original owner and have the original just not any receipts I could get the account back to a specific link BUT its IMPOSSIBLE to remove ANY hacked links as its said.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

I'll contact support and see what they can do about this but it could take quite long I also do not issue refunds but can help you with the product. He obviously lied and kept it so since im the one getting scammed I obviously very obviously wont lose the account and the money LOL

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Original owners can recall accounts through support. This is the case in just about every game. However, you claimed to be the original owner on your sale thread when you are not. This falls under our false advertising rule. You can contact the games support to try and recall the account. If you can't I would contact support to have the account banned.

You will still have to refund as you still falsely advertised your account.

if I had the account I wouldve given the money back but my paypal is perma locked cuz I didnt put my id in it so He would have to find a way to get it by himself whenever I get my account back from this ***.

 

[Adoxia]

I'll contact support and see what they can do about this but it could take quite long I also do not issue refunds but can help you with the product. He obviously lied and kept it so since im the one getting scammed I obviously very obviously wont lose the account and the money LOL

Ban in 24 hours if refund is not sent.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Ban in 24 hours if refund is not sent.

explained the situation I can provide proof too , I never said any guarentee came with my product if he is claiming it got hacked ill get it back thats all .

 

[Adoxia]

explained the situation I can provide proof too , I never said any guarentee came with my product if he is claiming it got hacked ill get it back thats all .

You two can work out however the refund will work. The way false advertising works is that if you are not the original owner you will lose the dispute for falsely advertising that you are. Which is what was done here.

You have already said that you bought this account off someone else. That means you are not the original owner. The original owner is the user that created the account.

In false advertising cases a refund will be owed. You offering a guarantee or not does not influence this decision.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

You two can work out however the refund will work. The way false advertising works is that if you are not the original owner you will lose the dispute for falsely advertising that you are. Which is what was done here.

You have already said that you bought this account off someone else. That means you are not the original owner. The original owner is the user that created the account.

In false advertising cases a refund will be owed. You offering a guarantee or not does not influence this decision.

obviously your being stubborn , the account is created by what? an email how to prove its your account ? receipts , and the oge got both buyer didnt ask for them , the dispute was opened for one thing and your trying to find anything that makes me guilty but the truth is the buyer just lied and cant take his L cuz I aint finna pay him NO money because I aint did nothing wrong , I am the oge as I am equal to the oge. If thats not original owner idk what is I have EVERY info of the account with NO exception.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

You two can work out however the refund will work. The way false advertising works is that if you are not the original owner you will lose the dispute for falsely advertising that you are. Which is what was done here.

You have already said that you bought this account off someone else. That means you are not the original owner. The original owner is the user that created the account.

In false advertising cases a refund will be owed. You offering a guarantee or not does not influence this decision.

the dispute being opened up for a completely different reason is the same as going " To prove this dude murder my whole family I have a video recording of him stealing cows from a random farm " It's IRRELEVANT and has NO effect in the outcome of the case .

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

You two can work out however the refund will work. The way false advertising works is that if you are not the original owner you will lose the dispute for falsely advertising that you are. Which is what was done here.

You have already said that you bought this account off someone else. That means you are not the original owner. The original owner is the user that created the account.

In false advertising cases a refund will be owed. You offering a guarantee or not does not influence this decision.

most people consider that as such.

 

[Adoxia]

obviously your being stubborn , the account is created by what? an email how to prove its your account ? receipts , and the oge got both buyer didnt ask for them , the dispute was opened for one thing and your trying to find anything that makes me guilty but the truth is the buyer just lied and cant take his L cuz I aint finna pay him NO money because I aint did nothing wrong , I am the oge as I am equal to the oge. If thats not original owner idk what is I have EVERY info of the account with NO exception.

This is how every dispute is treated when it comes to false advertising. Ban in 24 hours if you fail to refund. Throwing insults or trying to find a loophole is not going to work. You claimed to be the original owner and you are not.

• Full account disclosure: The seller must state to the buyer before payment whether or not the account has ever been recalled, hacked, stolen or has received violation warnings. For some games, the seller must also disclose whether or not any payment transactions (buying in-game items) have occurred on the account.
  • Botted accounts: If the account was created/leveled using a bot, this must also be disclosed. This means the account was botted from level 1 to the max level. This does not include legit accounts that at one time or another used a bot.
  • Seller must disclose if they are the original owner of the account.
  • Anything vitally important about the account must be disclosed to the buyer before payment.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Also if I were to buy a random account from a top seller and then open up a dispute because he never mentionned the account had extra value on it wouldnt it be the same.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

This is how every dispute is treated when it comes to false advertising. Ban in 24 hours if you fail to refund. Throwing insults or trying to find a loophole is not going to work. You claimed to be the original owner and you are not.

he never mentionned false advertising retard

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

refund my epic member then since you want to rip me off so bad

 

[Adoxia]

he never mentionned false advertising retard

We have never said that he has. We are telling you that you falsely advertised your account. Which automatically makes you lose the dispute. There is no loophole to this. You ticked on your post that you were the original owner. You are not. You even said you bought this account.

Which is false advertising.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

This is how every dispute is treated when it comes to false advertising. Ban in 24 hours if you fail to refund. Throwing insults or trying to find a loophole is not going to work. You claimed to be the original owner and you are not.

• Full account disclosure: The seller must state to the buyer before payment whether or not the account has ever been recalled, hacked, stolen or has received violation warnings. For some games, the seller must also disclose whether or not any payment transactions (buying in-game items) have occurred on the account.
  • Botted accounts: If the account was created/leveled using a bot, this must also be disclosed. This means the account was botted from level 1 to the max level. This does not include legit accounts that at one time or another used a bot.
  • Seller must disclose if they are the original owner of the account.
  • Anything vitally important about the account must be disclosed to the buyer before payment.

I never knew it was hacked.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

We have never said that he has. We are telling you that you falsely advertised your account. Which automatically makes you lose the dispute. There is no loophole to this. You ticked on your post that you were the original owner. You are not. You even said you bought this account.

I said I got it not bought it

 

[Adoxia]

I said I got it not bought it

Which still means you are not the original owner.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

We have never said that he has. We are telling you that you falsely advertised your account. Which automatically makes you lose the dispute. There is no loophole to this. You ticked on your post that you were the original owner. You are not. You even said you bought this account.

Which is false advertising.

You cant prove I knew it was hacked it would fall into your account being hacked because you were probably password sharing it , which is probably true considering it only happened a couple week afterwards

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Which still means you are not the original owner.

Yes I am. I told him I wasnt anyway.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

I told him the situation.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

best I could do since my paypal is locked anyway is just giving 268$ in walmart gift cards since its unrefundable and its what I got with the money.

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

its either that or he has to wait and you too ******

 

[Adoxia]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

You cant prove I knew it was hacked it would fall into your account being hacked because you were probably password sharing it , which is probably true considering it only happened a couple week afterwards

I have explained this to you several times. You are still ignoring the part that we are saying is false advertisement.

On your post you put “original owner - Yes”
During this thread you said “I got it off a dude on discord”

That means you are not the original owner. Which is false advertising. There is no loophole to get you out of that. If you fail to refund in 24 hours you will be banned. You two can discuss the refund however that works for both of you.

 

[Adoxia]

Yes I am. I told him I wasnt anyway.

Was this before or after the sale?

 

[Pattiboi]

During our trade, nothing was mentioned regarding the accounts ownership. All was mentioned was I saying there’s many other log in, the middleman noticing another way to log in, we tried to ask for it and he said that that is a dead log in method and twitter is the only one working now.

 

[Pattiboi]

yeh I checked. No mentioning of ownership. I though he was the owner since he promised a refund if he logs in

 

[Adoxia]

yeh I checked. No mentioning of ownership. I though he was the owner since he promised a refund if he logs in

Has there been any resolution made?

 

[Pattiboi]

Nope. He keeps saying that I still have the account, whenI clearly don’t.

 

[kingmootoo]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

yeh I checked. No mentioning of ownership. I though he was the owner since he promised a refund if he logs in

most of our convo was on discord we didnt discuss anything regarding the account information on epic

 

[kingmootoo]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

I have a lot of products ans buisiness to do im offering 268$ worth of walmart gift card which is 68$ more then what you paid I understand my error even though I dont agree with the rules I shouldnt have put oge. I still didnt block you on discord patti

 

[Adoxia]

I have a lot of products ans buisiness to do im offering 268$ worth of walmart gift card which is 68$ more then what you paid I understand my error even though I dont agree with the rules I shouldnt have put oge. I still didnt block you on discord patti

It will be up to Pattiboi if he accepts this payment method. If he does we will have to find a way of delivery that ensures the card is not claimed upon delivery so there can be no dispute of the funds.

 

[Pattiboi]

Any other forms of refund? Zelle, Remitly, western union, none of that?

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Any other forms of refund? Zelle, Remitly, western union, none of that?

most if not all need the user to be 18 as im only 16 I cant use them

 

[Pattiboi]

So how did you use PayPal before? I remember sending money to you using PayPal……

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

So how did you use PayPal before? I remember sending money to you using PayPal……

it works for a couple hours if your lucky then gets banned and your ip gets targeted if you use a vpn that gets detected easily

 

[Pattiboi]

Sorry. Not taking gift cards. Too unsafe

 

[kingmootoo]

Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/creating-members-to-scam-people.2430837/page-4

Sorry. Not taking gift cards. Too unsafe

dude ill wait for the product you bought to literally come to your house

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Any resolution?

 

[Pattiboi]

No. He’s proposing gift cards which I don’t take due to safety reasons. Somehow, he can use things when receiving money but can’t use anything when returning

 

[giuliana]

I would recommend banning this user, I bought a tof account and it he/other person recovered within days, and besides that, he is a rather problematic person.

 

[giuliana]

Here proof.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@kingmootoo we will give 24 hrs for you to come up with a resolution

 

[EpicNPC CM]

banned

kingmootoo
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