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Velkhana

Velkhana

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buyer bought this account off of me:
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/mig...unt-glad-mount-huge-gold-opportunity.1971040/

through paypal friends and family. just got a case opened that he reclaimed his $600. he is friends with me on discord and he never shared any problems or anything. he just randomly out of the blue reclaimed his money back. and still has the account. and wont respond to me on discord
 

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
You sold me an account that didn’t have even remotely close to 7m and 6m gold in any gbank. At most 1m combined across garbage matts in 5 different guilds. When I spoke to different people including accountshark they all said at no more 100-$200 worth. I hit you up twice saying that there was no value in the account and you didn’t offer to give me back my money. Just said oh I’m selling **** wrong when I’m using tsm like you said. As well as this account isn’t “yours”. You were selling it for someone else. MSG me on discord, will return login info and you can go sell it to someone else. I’m not gonna “scam someone else” ms.
 
I deleted his thread since the account must be returned
 
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
Account was returned to the owner. Which is not this person who opened the ticket, it’s her boyfriend. Have proof in discord screenshots if you’d like me to send over.
 
it doesnt matter that im not the original owner. this market is literally built around selling other peoples accounts. i never said it was mine. i am a reseller. just like a lot of people on here.
as well as this account was appraised by two people who are highly rep'd, so im not sure who you asked.
anyways, everythings in the screenshots that is on the account. youre doing something wrong. and the original owner tried to help you and show you how. you literally could have removed everything from the guild banks and all the liquid gold as well and are giving us back an empty account for all i know. since you didnt once ask for a refund. you just took your money back without a word and then tried to go resell it. thats something a scammer would do. otherwise you wouldve been like "i no longer want the account, can i get my money back and give you the account back?"
why go reclaiming money without even returning the account yet or messaging us about doing it at all? then trying to sell the account while you very clearly know you reclaimed the money. you were trying to keep both.
nonetheless its pretty crappy of you to do that without giving us a headsup.
 
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So he did give the login info back. we logged in and he entirely emptied our bank with all the gold valued items hes claiming it never had. you can see it was removed two days ago. and im providing proof he purchased the account before it was emptied.
 

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and heres proof of the day he purchased. banks were emptied out two days ago. he had the account for 4 days.
 

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he even went out of his way to just delete all of the items, if not selling them. its literally a blank account now. this guy is a scammer. he took everything of value and sent it to himself and then just deleted other stuff just to be rude i guess. all tabards, gold, everything. millions of gold worth of items.
 
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
In correct, I did sell stuff & I used the gold to buy some stuff. Like I said I didn’t get much for it & I’m not sure who quoted you guys 2.1k for this account but it is far from it. I also like I told you, bought the account for the value of the gold. Not for the characters & I complained twice about value not being there. So I didn’t dispute the money then post the account for sale. I sold what I needed then posted it for sale since like I said before I don’t need any characters.
I am happy to pay the gold cause it did have liquid gold and I did spend it, but apparently your value came from the gold cause the items on the guilds were trash. I can go through and ss a lot of it too.
Let me know how you want to proceed.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
One thing you are absolutely right about is I should’ve messaged you & asked for a refund however you guys didn’t want to even send me a real armory before me sending money let alone go through guild bank so literally none of that **** is worth 6-7m per server. It’s all in the logs, check it out.
 
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
And not to mention I think we’re in different time zones so to say I didn’t respond to your discord message when you messaged me at 3am my time lmao. I was sleeping. If I wanted to scam you I’d have deleted your discord & not answered ****. Not my point
 
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you entirely emptied 5 guild banks worth millions. took all the gold off the characters too. deleted things i can never get back. you entirely sabotaged the account. and took EVERYTHING. you not responding on discord has nothing to do with anything, or the sleep schedules. the point is you entirely emptied every valuable thing in this account, then claimed it had nothing, then refunded ur money without saying anything at all, then tried to sell the account to someone else (keeping both the money and the account) bc your for sale post was up at all times until a mod just force took it down. then finally you gave back an empty account, which i am not accepting. its still in all your information. ive not changed anything. theres no possible way to get back the things you deleted. tabards and everything are gone. and youre claiming it was only like 1mil worth of stuff, which is incorrect. so im not gonna let you return me 1mil worth of stuff when you took gold cap worth of things.
you tried to just return the account to us without mentioning oh hey btw i emptied everything. you reclaimed your money and tried to sell the account. youre in the wrong in every way. and after deleting EVERYTHING that wasnt sold, the account is just an empty vessel.

and with real armory, sellers do not send to random people. you can view the real armory after you buy it. i told you that. anytime you wanted it after purchase i wouldve sent it to you if you asked again. i wasnt gonna send you my characters names before purchase. real armory and secret armory are EXACTLY the same, it just hides names. so you dont need it before purchase. its to protect the name of the characters on the account so they dont get reported for like RMT, account sharing and other stuff.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
Lmao I literally just explained to you that youre no where near 6-7m on any guild bank LET ALONE GOLD CAP. If you keep going on about that then go through and do the math on withdrawn ****. There was 0 tabards in the guild bank. There was a few of the wolf mounts, there was some transmog but none of that was sold. Like I said I’m happy to pay for the Liquid gold since I did use that to buy a mount.
 
and im saying youre lying. i had screenshots in my post of everything it had with the value of all of the items appraised by TSM addon. theyre still in the post if anyone wants to look at it. im not accepting it back when you literally deleted and sold things i can never get back. and youre not offering the golds worth that i had proof of in screenshots in the post. i do not wish to converse with you further. bc i think youre a scammer. ill let the mods decide what should be done.

to the mods; this guy literally refunded his money with NO WORD. tried to sell the account while reclaiming the money. that is sus enough as is. on top of that he went to every single guild bank and sent everything to himself. i am uploading an unlisted video on youtube to further explain for you mods to watch or for anyone to watch, idc. to show more of how he ruined the account and how sus he is. "sold some things" dude literally emptied the entire account. give me a few to upload the video, its at 30% rn. also im not sure if im allowed to post youtube links so ill just wait for a mod to respond and let me know if i should send it in DM or post it here or how i can show the video. i know the site blocks out certain websites so im unsure, sorry about that. just let us know what you think mods!
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
Let’s see the 7m worth on illidan and 6m for on frost wolf. I hit you up and told you I posted every single thing using tsm like you said and tsm literally showed 556k value and I told you that. I’m not gonna go back and forth with you. ALSO I did not sell everything. A lot of **** is sitting in AH on my other accounts. I can deposit it all back into your gbanks however before I do so I’ll ss the tsm value of WAY less then 500k. I’m not denying taking **** out? But the point is nowhere near the value you claim it has lmao
 
you literally refunded ur money without any word and tried selling the account at the same time.
you took everything, sold things and deleted things that can never be returned. and tried to return the account back to me without even saying you emptied the account.
the account is ruined, even if you did send what you have back. bc its not everything bc you sold and deleted things and youre lying about the value of what was in it. bc i have proof of the value in my post. you havent provided any proof or anything of the value of the items. i mean i suppose you could now, but that wouldnt exactly be proof since you deleted and sold things and are just disagreeing in general about the value, despite the proof i showed in my post.
i dont believe a word you say bc of these actions you did above.
imagine if this were reversed and i sold you the account and then reclaimed it. thats literally what you did. bought the account, reclaimed ur money. tried to sell it to someone else. stole everything off the account. etc.
 
I am unable to see a time when the Paypal dispute was opened. Can one of you post this, please?
 
btw, it says this dispute can take up to 75 days before any decision is made. just wanted to let you guys know in case you mods were maybe waiting on that to finish first.
 

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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
Jusst so everyones clear, you do realize account is in your procession and you are trying to take back money still. Goodluck with that buddy!
 
the account is not in my possession. it is still in your email and password. i did not change anything. its all still in your info. we are not accepting the account. you took everything off of it, deleted things, sold things, you lie constantly. you emptied my account. then tried to return it. you refunded ur money at the same time you tried selling the account to someone else. it would be INSANE if you got away with the things you have done. youve provided zero proof, while i have posted a lot of solid evidence. and youve been caught in a lie that the mods have been informed of in DM.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/buyer-reclaimed-money.1986410/
I tried selling to someone else? Lmao yeah no. A lie? Bro you’re tripping. Get out of here. You do realize PayPal will never side with selling of a wow account? You lost right there. If you don’t want the account then lmk. If not, good luck. This is the last time I respond here.
 
you literally posted it for sale. the mod literally force deleted it from you. and the post was still up after you refunded ur money from me. and yes a lie, the evidence was provided to a mod. feel free to stop replying here, im gonna keep providing evidence as it comes up. and i wont give up until the mods make a decision bc i dont want you doing to someone else what you did to me. bc its crappy. youre not the first person to scam me by refunding money that i have a dispute against. youre just a more obvious one who openly admits to doing it, openly admits to cleaning out the account, provides no proof of anything youre saying, and gets caught in a lies.
 
I can agree that this was a scam attempt so @Demonhavoc will be banned. He has no right to do anything with the account and later to changreback the payment

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