Booty Bay Recalls $8,000 Account (Now Banned)

AccountShark.net · Jan 29, 2022

None of this makes any sense. I don't understand why you were sending a screenshot of your ticket to some random person or why the ticket response you showed me was on a completely different email than the one you put in your ticket.

Why would you send the ticket to a random person and not me like I asked you to do?

Booty Bay · Jan 29, 2022

Not a random person, this person is part of the booty bay.

AccountShark.net · Jan 29, 2022

Booty Bay said:
Not a random person, this person is part of the booty bay.

It was YOUR account. Why did you need to send the ticket to someone who works with you? Why not just send it to me like I asked?

Every answer you've given here is totally insufficient.

Booty Bay · Jan 29, 2022

The person owns half of the company, he needs to know all the steps that the company gives, the account was in my name in fact, but it was a sale PRODUCT, just that, difficult to understand? all actions taken by booty bay must be reviewed by me and this other person, ALL.

AccountShark.net · Jan 29, 2022

Booty Bay said:
The person owns half of the company, he needs to know all the steps that the company gives, the account was in my name in fact, but it was a sale PRODUCT, just that, difficult to understand? all actions taken by booty bay must be reviewed by me and this other person, ALL.

You sold the account for $5,000 so you knew it was valuable. Why would you not take extra caution to be sure this was handled properly? What credentials does this random person have to be handling tickets for $8,000 accounts? The fact is, you are totally unfit to be handling people's money. You've made it very clear that you have no idea what you're doing. You should not be here at all if this is how you deal with issues like this, especially an issue related to your own account. I would have just submitted the ticket myself to begin with if I had known you were this poorly equipped to handle a sensitive issue with so much money on the line.

Booty Bay · Jan 29, 2022

Again, I will repeat why you are slow, this person is not a random person, this person is part of Booty Bay. Secondly, I never thought that this account would have passed into so many hands (your fault) you couldn't keep the minimum security with YOUR PRODUCT, it's your problem, uniquely yours, accept it, and finally, you don't it's no authority here, it's just more salesman like anyone else, so wait for the Admins' decision and stop bothering me as I'm already tired of answering your nonsense nonsense.

EpicNPC · Feb 2, 2022

AccountShark.net said:
The account was banned prior to my ticket. They banned it after BootyBay submitted his ticket and you can verify that in their reply to him

Your chat image shows support was just about to recover the account for you, then rechecked and determined they couldn't. The account was then banned. It appears to me the account was not banned yet, otherwise the support person would have told you that right away.

What I think happened is that the support person noticed a 2nd recovery ticket opened by someone else, then determined the account should be banned instead of being recovered.

Booty Bay said:
this person is not a random person, this person is part of Booty Bay. Secondly, I never thought that this account would have passed into so many hands (your fault)

Bootybay this is your personal WoW account, not some account in your inventory. I agree you should have opened the ticket, not someone else that you work with.

You also stated this account was hacked 5x before. This means at least 9 people have accessed this account. 5 hackers, booty, accountshark, Jvb31213y and unknown customer. The majority of these "hands" is before it was sold.

I already had problems with this account when I played, I was hacked more than 5x in 15 years playing with it

June 2021 - Bootybay (OO) sells Wow account from Jvb31213y
June 2021 - Jvb31213y sells account to Accountshark
July 2021 - Accountshark sells account to unknown
Dec 6, - unknown asks Accountshark to resell for him, Accountshark gains access to account
Dec 16 - recovery ticket opened, email changed, unknown user (Canada)
Jan 21 - Accountshark almost recovers the account, instead it's banned permanently

1) This was a damaged account. Hacks are REQUIRED to be disclosed to the buyer before payment. Since Jvb31213y is not active, he can't confirm. Bootybay, do you have any evidence (VIDEO ONLY) showing that you told Jvb31213y this account was hacked multiple times before selling it to him?

2) I don't see anything that changed my mind about the ban. It appears 2 support tickets were opened by 2 people within 24 hrs and this is what caused the ban.

I need to see evidence for #1 before making a decision.

AccountShark.net · Feb 2, 2022

EpicNPC said:
Your chat image shows support was just about to recover the account for you, then rechecked and determined they couldn't. The account was then banned. It appears to me the account was not banned yet, otherwise the support person would have told you that right away.

What I think happened is that the support person noticed a 2nd recovery ticket opened by someone else, then determined the account should be banned instead of being recovered.

Bootybay this is your personal WoW account, not some account in your inventory. I agree you should have opened the ticket, not someone else that you work with.

You also stated this account was hacked 5x before. This means at least 9 people have accessed this account. 5 hackers, booty, accountshark, Jvb31213y and unknown customer. The majority of these "hands" is before it was sold.

June 2021 - Bootybay (OO) sells Wow account from Jvb31213y
June 2021 - Jvb31213y sells account to Accountshark
July 2021 - Accountshark sells account to unknown
Dec 6, - unknown asks Accountshark to resell for him, Accountshark gains access to account
Dec 16 - recovery ticket opened, email changed, unknown user (Canada)
Jan 21 - Accountshark almost recovers the account, instead it's banned permanently

1) This was a damaged account. Hacks are REQUIRED to be disclosed to the buyer before payment. Since Jvb31213y is not active, he can't confirm. Bootybay, do you have any evidence (VIDEO ONLY) showing that you told Jvb31213y this account was hacked multiple times before selling it to him?

2) I don't see anything that changed my mind about the ban. It appears 2 support tickets were opened by 2 people within 24 hrs and this is what caused the ban.

I need to see evidence for #1 before making a decision.

How do you not see that it was banned before I put in a ticket? BootyBay literally sent me the update to his ticket which stated the following.

https://imgur.com/a/t7Utfoo

Clearly stating "the account has been closed permanently" in their reply to him. Had nothing to do with my ticket at all.

My ticket wasn't submitted until HOURS after that. His ticket was closed with that reply well before mine was open. The first half of my live chat was the GM trying to identify the account, then noticing that the account had been closed and saying he couldn't assist further.

I can give you a timed recording of all chat logs if that's what you need to see that his ticket was submitted and closed hours before mine. I will take no responsibility for the ban when it was banned after HIS ticket as this is proven. I submitted the ticket simply to find out if what he said was accurate since he would not help me further, that the account was closed permanently, and they confirmed that it was. I would have successfully restored the account if he had not gotten it banned first, and I won't be penalized in this dispute for simply confirming the account was closed long after it happened. That's not on me.

June 2021 - Bootybay (OO) sells Wow account from Jvb31213y
June 2021 - Jvb31213y sells account to Accountshark
July 2021 - Accountshark sells account to unknown
Dec 6, - unknown asks Accountshark to resell for him, Accountshark gains access to account
Dec 16 - recovery ticket opened, email changed, unknown user (Canada)
Jan 21 - BootyBay submits ticket, account closed permanently
Jan 21 (later) - AccountShark submits ticket, unsuccessful due to account already being banned

This is the correct order of events.

EpicNPC said:
Your chat image shows support was just about to recover the account for you, then rechecked and determined they couldn't. The account was then banned. It appears to me the account was not banned yet, otherwise the support person would have told you that right away.

We have a ticket response to BootyBay confirming it was banned long before I put in a live chat. For all you, me, or anyone knows, the GM I dealt with probably just saw it was banned (which can happen after it's been recalled) then noticed a notation on the account from the GM who responded to BootyBay saying it was closed permanently and could not be restored. His initial reaction was to TRY and restore the account, because if it were truly hacked and banned then that would have been possible. Upon closer examination he realized that another GM, earlier that day in response to BootyBay's ticket, had closed the account and left a notation to not restore it under any circumstance, at which point he ended the chat.

AccountShark.net · Feb 2, 2022

His ticket was responded to at 12:16 Brazilian time, which is roughly 9:30 AM my time. They made it very clear in their response to him that the account was closed. My live chat was closed at 4:43 PM that same day. The tickets are 7 hours apart.

My chat logs with him show him sending me his ticket reply, then me asking him for help with my live chat attempt later in the day. He declined to help and I ultimately just confirmed that the account was banned as he told me earlier. I shouldn't be penalized for simply trying to find out if what he said was true since he refused to help me further. I think that's a valid "next step" for anyone who has just been scammed, but it certainly carries no weight as far as the account being banned when that was decided well before I did anything. If the account had not already been banned then I would have been able to restore it.

EpicNPC · Feb 2, 2022

AccountShark.net said:
My ticket wasn't submitted until HOURS after that. His ticket was closed with that reply well before mine was open.

Based on the images, I see these timestamps, timezone unknown.

Jan 21 12:16 ?? - account permanently closed email to bootybay
Jan 21 16:32 ?? - account permanently banned via support chat

I can't confirm the time zones, but if I base them on your last IPs you guys are 3 hour apart. bootybay is 3 hours ahead of you, so the adjusted timestamps would be this.

Jan 21 9:16 - account permanently closed email to bootybay
Jan 21 16:32 - account permanently banned via support chat

Yes, 7 hours difference.

Still waiting for this from bootybay.

1) This was a damaged account. Hacks are REQUIRED to be disclosed to the buyer before payment. Since Jvb31213y is not active, he can't confirm. Bootybay, do you have any evidence (VIDEO ONLY) showing that you told Jvb31213y this account was hacked multiple times before selling it to him?

AccountShark.net · Feb 2, 2022

Booty Bay · Feb 2, 2022

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EpicNPC · Feb 3, 2022

June 2021 - Bootybay (OO) sells Wow account from Jvb31213y - $5000
June 2021 - Jvb31213y sells account to Accountshark - $???
July 2021 - Accountshark sells account to customer - $8000
Dec 6, - customer asks Accountshark to resell for him, Accountshark gains access to account
Dec 16 - recovery ticket opened, email changed, unknown user (Canada)
Jan 21 - bootybay tries to recovery, support permanently suspends account
Jan 21 - 7hrs later accountshark tries to recall, fails, account is already banned

Based on the image timestamps, we can confirm the account was already permanently banned before accountsshart's recovery attempt.

I believe the ban occurred due to previous issues on the account. If Dec 16 was the first recall ever on the account, I don't believe Blizzard would have banned it on Jan 21 when bootybay tried to recover it. Hacked accounts are common, Blizzard normally doesn't ban accounts when someone reports an hack and tries to recover it. There must have been other issues.

Accountshark how much did you purchase this account for from Jvb31213y? Please post proof.

I also don't like not knowing who Accsharks's customer was. I can't rule out that they did something, maybe tried to scam Accountshark by recalling the account while he held it. Who is this customer? Are they a member on Epicnpc?

AccountShark.net · Feb 3, 2022

EpicNPC said:
Accountshark how much did you purchase this account for from Jvb31213y? Please post proof.

EpicNPC said:
I also don't like not knowing who Accsharks's customer was. I can't rule out that they did something, maybe tried to scam Accountshark by recalling the account while he held it. Who is this customer? Are they a member on Epicnpc?

That's his profile. It's not a mystery, it's just not relevant. He's bought from me numerous times without issue.

I already showed you the TICKETED (Not logged in, account recalled through support) email change notification and compared it to a REGULAR (Logged in normally) email change notification. The one in the inbox was a TICKETED email change which means someone submitted an offline ticket or live chat, had ALL the necessary documents on hand (ID, ID next to face, and timestamped ID photo next to a newspaper or other document) and recovered the account. For an account that has supposedly had so many issues, do you think Blizzard would really give the account to someone with NONE of that information?

My customer had:

- No access to the email address
- Never changed the email address (Email was the same since July)
- No ID photos

It is beyond belief that he, or even myself or Jvb31213y with the one ID photo we had, would have been able to restore the account. You should know this. Your forum has been around longer than I've been in business, so you should be able to distinguish between a genuine recall and foul play.

Everyone is playing devil's advocate and assuming BootyBay didn't do it, but it is VERY likely that he just recalled his own account and you know it. There is no other identifiable possibility that makes sense based on what anyone who deals with accounts know to be true.

Instead of targeting me and drilling me with questions, why don't you ask the ORIGINAL OWNER why HIS account was recalled?

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

Last week I had a rollback problem with one of my products, I helped my client return the account with only a photo of the former owner's ID, I recovered the account without photos of the newspaper of the day or face next to the ID, just search my disputes you'll find what I'm talking about. So you and Opra and I had my ID photo and I can confirm that ID alone is enough to recover an account.

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

In fact, it is a great argument, however, luckily for me just this week I managed to recover an account ONLY with the ID, and this I can prove with conversations I had with my client, it is not necessary a photo of the daily newspaper or a photo of the face next to the ID

AccountShark.net · Feb 3, 2022

Booty Bay said:
Last week I had a rollback problem with one of my products, I helped my client return the account with only a photo of the former owner's ID, I recovered the account without photos of the newspaper of the day or face next to the ID, just search my disputes you'll find what I'm talking about. So you and Opra and I had my ID photo and I can confirm that ID alone is enough to recover an account.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wow-account-email-changed-and-recovered.2150514/

This dispute here? It looks like the OO just kept submitting tickets and ultimately got the account, which is what happens in recall disputes like this. Even if a third-party gets lucky with their recovery attempt, only the Original Owner can ultimately provide everything Blizzard might ask for and will eventually get the account back. Blizzard ramps up the verification they require as more issues arise. Someone with no ID photos or even just one ID photo would not be able to recall an account that had been hacked as many times as yours supposedly had. Blizzard would not simply restore an account like that without asking for multiple forms of verification.

My customer had no ID photo and no email access, and the account was in my possession under the email I created in July. That leaves only you and Jvb31213y (according to you) with the ability to recover it.

But why would a third-party try to recall an account knowing they weren't the Original Owner and that the Original Owner would simply submit another ticket to get it back as proven in your other dispute?

There is nothing to be gained there so it is beyond belief. If Jvb31213y wanted to scam anyone he would have just done a chargeback for the $5k he paid you. He has not done that, so it is safe to assume that he is not involved either.

That only leaves YOU with the ability to recover the account. You're trying to assert that SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU was able to recover YOUR account with one ID photo while you were unable to do so yourself. You're making claims that defy what ANYONE who deals with accounts knows to be true.

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

AccountShark.net said:
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wow-account-email-changed-and-recovered.2150514/

This dispute here? It looks like the OO just kept submitting tickets and ultimately got the account, which is what happens in recall disputes like this. Even if a third-party gets lucky with their recovery attempt, only the Original Owner can ultimately provide everything Blizzard might ask for and will eventually get the account back. Blizzard ramps up the verification they require as more issues arise. It is beyond belief that someone with no ID photos or even just one ID photo would be able to recall an account that had been hacked as many times as yours supposedly had. Blizzard would not simply restore an account like that without asking for multiple forms of verification.

My customer had no ID photo and no email access, and the account was in my possession under the email I created in July. That leaves only you and Jvb31213y (according to you) with the ability to recover it.

But why would a third-party try to recall an account knowing they weren't the Original Owner and that the Original Owner would simply submit another ticket to get it back as proven in your other dispute?

There is nothing to be gained there so it is beyond belief. If Jvb31213y wanted to scam anyone he would have just done a chargeback for the $5k he paid you. He has not done that, so it is safe to assume that he is not involved either.

That only leaves YOU with the ability to recover the account. You're trying to assert that SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU was able to recover YOUR account with one ID photo while you were unable to do so yourself. You're making claims that defy what ANYONE who deals with accounts knows to be true.

Exactly, this same dispute, I recovered the account only with the account ID, the other day it was recovered again so I returned the money to MY CLIENT.

I understand that losing 8000$ is a lot of money, however, I don't keep claiming that I have nothing to do with it, other than the part that I didn't tell OPRA about the account being hacked, in this matter I really forgot and failed, Other than that, it's exhausting to see you subtly try to frame me and make me pay a debt I don't owe.

AccountShark.net · Feb 3, 2022

Booty Bay said:
Exactly, this same dispute, I recovered the account only with the account ID, the other day it was recovered again so I returned the money to MY CLIENT.

I understand that losing 8000$ is a lot of money, however, I don't keep claiming that I have nothing to do with it, other than the part that I didn't tell OPRA about the account being hacked, in this matter I really forgot and failed, Other than that, it's exhausting to see you subtly try to frame me and make me pay a debt I don't owe.

Your other dispute proves that it makes no sense for a third-party to try and recall an account to scam someone when ultimately the Original Owner will get it back as the verification requirements are ramped up. If Jvb31213y wanted to scam, he would have done a chargeback. My buyer would have done the same. Neither of those things have happened, so we can assume they're not involved based on that alone without even considering how unlikely it would be for someone with no ID photos, and someone with only one ID photo, to recover an account like yours that was supposedly hacked numerous times in the past.

You aren't being framed. You're being disputed because YOUR account with YOUR name on it was recalled. The burden of proof is on YOU to explain why that happened and nobody else.

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

That proves only for that dispute, not for this one, all the questions that made me answer, all of them. You accused me, it's up to you to prove (it's been hard) that I'm right, right? my luck is that then i am not under your laws, and here dont follow YOUR RULES, YOUR RULES will be decided as admins and not you.

From the beginning you try to take something from me (which doesn't exist) at any cost, give up, you're wrong and you're trying to look for a culprit, the product was with you, didn't you keep it safe with your customers? it's your problem, ever since this ****ing dispute started it just ****ED my trade, I'm already sick of dealing with a spoiled brat.

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

Booty Bay said:
That proves only for that dispute, not for this one, all the questions that made me answer, all of them. You accused me, it's up to you to prove (it's been hard) that I'm right, right? my luck is that then i am not under your laws, and here dont follow YOUR RULES, YOUR RULES will be decided as admins and not you.

From the beginning you try to take something from me (which doesn't exist) at any cost, give up, you're wrong and you're trying to look for a culprit, the product was with you, didn't you keep it safe with your customers? it's your problem, ever since this ****ing dispute started it just ****ED my trade, I'm already sick of dealing with a spoiled brat.

I have products in my stock that cost way more than this shitty $8000, do you think I would do that too and lose everything I have? stop being crazy.

AccountShark.net · Feb 3, 2022

Booty Bay said:
From the beginning you try to take something from me (which doesn't exist) at any cost, give up, you're wrong and you're trying to look for a culprit, the product was with you, didn't you keep it safe with your customers? it's your problem, ever since this ****ing dispute started it just ****ED my trade, I'm already sick of dealing with a spoiled brat.

You're doing a lot of whining and complaining for a guy who has lost nothing. I've lost an expensive account that was first recalled, then permanently banned due to your own incompetence, yet I'm still here day after day replying to your stupidity and providing everything that is asked of me. Obviously I would rather have the account than be here dealing with this, but your delusional victim mentality won't let you understand that. Who else should I have disputed? Your name is on the account, so who else should deal with my complaint?

Booty Bay said:
I have products in my stock that cost way more than this shitty $8000, do you think I would do that too and lose everything I have? stop being crazy.

Maybe you can give me one of those accounts when it's decided that you're responsible for your own account unless @EpicNPC wants to change his own rulebook. The forums have very clear rules about being responsible for what we sell even if we are not the Original Owner. In most recall disputes, the Original Owner is not even present. Since you are the Original Owner, that makes you the only responsible party. How can you say that you offer any sort of guarantee on the random accounts you sell if you can't even guarantee that your own account won't be recalled? How can anyone who reads this dispute think that you are a reliable, trustworthy, or knowledgeable salesman in the slightest?

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

AccountShark.net said:
You're doing a lot of whining and complaining for a guy who has lost nothing. I've lost an expensive account that was first recalled, then permanently banned due to your own incompetence, yet I'm still here day after day replying to your stupidity and providing everything that is asked of me. Obviously I would rather have the account than be here dealing with this, but your delusional victim mentality won't let you understand that. Who else should I have disputed? Your name is on the account, so who else should deal with my complaint?

Maybe you can give me one of those accounts when it's decided that you're responsible for your own account unless @EpicNPC wants to change his own rulebook. The forums have very clear rules about being responsible for what we sell even if we are not the Original Owner. In most recall disputes, the Original Owner is not even present. Since you are the Original Owner, that makes you the only responsible party. How can you say that you offer any sort of guarantee on the random accounts you sell if you can't even guarantee that your own account won't be recalled? How can anyone who reads this dispute think that you are a reliable, trustworthy, or knowledgeable salesman in the slightest?

Did I miss anything? you are really slow, do you have any idea that I sell 90% of the rare products that still exist in Brazil? I believe you should know, and this is worth a lot of money, and I'm not missing out on anything? spare me your pathetic ignorance.

The forums have rules, but they're not yours, I don't do business with you, I don't owe you anything, take care of your products.

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

you are so pathetic that you keep stalking my sales and my products to buy them from those who buy from me, you are low and miserable. I myself have seen several MY products on your website, you probably have a crush on me and you don't know how to approach me, do you want to have dinner with me?

Booty Bay · Feb 3, 2022

It's impossible to be patient with you, I've tried but it's impossible, egocentric who lives in a world where he thinks you're the center of the universe, I pity all the people who had the misfortune to cross your path and other salespeople alike to you.

Again, I'll wait for the admins to respond and save my sanity by talking to you.

EpicNPC · Feb 4, 2022

June 2021 - Bootybay (OO) sells Wow account from Jvb31213y - $5000
June 2021 - Jvb31213y trades account to Accountshark for 2 accounts $3000 total value
July 2021 - Accountshark sells account to customer - $8000
Dec 6, - customer asks Accountshark to resell for him, Accountshark gains access to account
Dec 16 - recovery ticket opened, email changed, unknown user (Canada)
Jan 21 - bootybay tries to recovery, support permanently suspends account
Jan 21 - 7hrs later accountshark tries to recall, fails, account is already banned

Accountshark, you make a huge profit on this account. Traded it for $3k and resold for $8k.

If you have already refunded the $8k, you are down $3k.

Since no mention of the previous hacks was disclosed by Bootybay to Jvb31213y, the $3k lose should be paid out by bootybay to accountshark.

AccountShark.net · Feb 4, 2022

EpicNPC said:
Since no mention of the previous hacks was disclosed by Bootybay to Jvb31213y, the $3k lose should be paid out by bootybay to accountshark.

If Jvb31213y had the account when this happened then BootyBay would owe him the $5,000 he spent. Since that's what BootyBay sold his account for, that's what I want. BootyBay said himself that he would “cover his own customers” but not me, so that’s the amount he would be on the hook for. I would accept a settlement of $5,000 to cover the loss caused by BootyBay. Anything less is letting him off easy and sets a terrible precedent. It's still very likely that he just recalled his own account not knowing I had it, thinking it wasn't being used or that the other guy wouldn't put up a fight. Your forum holds resellers accountable for accounts they don't control, so at the very least BootyBay should be held accountable for what he sold his own account for.

Booty Bay · Feb 4, 2022

I'm at work, when I get home I'll answer.

AccountShark.net · Feb 7, 2022

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EpicNPC · Feb 8, 2022

AccountShark.net said:
If Jvb31213y had the account when this happened then BootyBay would owe him the $5,000 he spent. Since that's what BootyBay sold his account for, that's what I want.

Jvb31213y would have to be involved for that type of decision to be made and he has not replied and is inactive for 4 months.

AccountShark.net if you can show you refunded the full $8k to your customer, I can split the difference and make it $4k.

Waiting for @Booty Bay to reply. Ban in 24 hrs if there is no reply. The ban will then remain until the payment is sent.

AccountShark.net · Feb 9, 2022

EpicNPC said:
Jvb31213y would have to be involved for that type of decision to be made and he has not replied and is inactive for 4 months.

AccountShark.net if you can show you refunded the full $8k to your customer, I can split the difference and make it $4k.

Waiting for @Booty Bay to reply. Ban in 24 hrs if there is no reply. The ban will then remain until the payment is sent.

My customer was compensated to his satisfaction. If that isn’t sufficient enough for you then stick to your decision. I'm the only one left with an outstanding balance and that's why I'm here. You're giving BootyBay the most absurdly fair ruling that I've ever seen from any dispute on this forum.

Here's what your decision says:

- Be the Original Owner of an account
- Sell the account
- Recall the account
- Pay out a settlement based on an unrelated buyer’s business dealings
- Retain a profit

In the end, even if he refunds $3,000, he still walks out of this with $2,000 for selling his account. How does that add up to you? I get screwed out of future profits, and the original sale is simply a wash? BootyBay is still the only person who could have recalled his account. I’ve explained this in detail multiple times, but your ruling states that only “since he failed to disclose the hacks” he would be asked to issue compensation. So if he had disclosed the hacks, this recall would be totally cool with you? Because that’s what I'm gathering from this. There is nobody else on the planet who could have successfully executed a recall of an account with a history like that besides the Original Owner. You are choosing to forego all the facts if you want to dispute this with me. It’s incomprehensible to believe ANYONE could have accomplished this besides BootyBay himself.

If it’s not already obvious, I expect to receive nothing for this loss. BootyBay made it very clear that he has no intention of making this right and that I should simply lose everything. That it was somehow my fault that the account UNDER HIS NAME was not "secured" and got recalled. This is a seller on YOUR forum who flaunts his "guarantees" and "safety" publicly, but can't even guarantee that HIS OWN account won't be recalled. He has not replied in days while still being online. Even if he chooses to ignore the problem and take a ban I'm still not fine with taking a loss. If needed I can call up Jvb31213y and ask him to do a chargeback for his payment. The difference can be re-sent to BootyBay afterwards since your decision suggests that he should still make SOME money for selling his account despite being the only person who could have recalled it.

EpicNPC · Feb 9, 2022

You made profit on the account. I don't know what you refunded to your customer, but I can't confirm they received 100% of their money back. I don't know why you should get 100% of the any profit if your customer didn't. Since you do not wish to provide any evidence of this and Jvb31213y has not replied at all, we'll keep it to $3000.

Bootybay ([email protected]) has been banned for failing to reply since Feb 3rd. He can be unbanned once $3000 is paid to AccountShark.

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Booty Bay Recalls $8,000 Account (Now Banned)

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