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Attempted scam by user Alkuwari - tried to dispute the money over paypal.

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Dispute Date:
August 12th 2015.

Method of Contact Used:
Skype

Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing:
ghanim.al.kuwari

EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing:
alkuwari

Your Instant Messenger ID:
Since its my personal name as I'm stupid I'd prefer not to put it in here. Logisticz will be able to confirm, but if needed I'll post it 100%. I was stupid making my skype with IRL name >.<

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DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service?
Account & money.


Link of transaction thread:
none - he posted on ownedcore but wanted to transition to EpicNPC since we used a middle man from here.


Approximate value of property:
275 €


Was a middleman used?
Yes


If yes, who?
Logisticz


Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Basically the person in question (Alkuwari) bought my account the 12th of the use of Logisticz as a middle man. Everything went smooth, both of us were happy and Logisticz confirmed everything with Alkuwari and everyone were onboard.
Since I started to browse this forum after I created a user here I found out that Alkuwari tried to sell the account 1 day later which I didnt think anything of since it's in his possession now, but the strange thing was that at friday 11 AM he asked me for another picture of passport because he was going to sell the account because he had bought another one (i was not online then and didnt see it until late sunday) and 12 hours later he asked me why the account was recalled.

I get a mail during saturday that a dispute also has been opened on Paypal which I found strange because I didnt have had any contact with Alkuwari then, but when I logged in on Sunday I realized he had deleted me from skype.

During this dispute on Paypal he decided to lie for Paypal which was easily proved by me by chat logs (he basically said that we talked with eachother and I confirmed that the account was refounded WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN AT ALL)

I escalated the dispute on Paypal to a claim, where I provided the information and printscreens of him trying to sell the account during the SAME time as he said it was reclaimed and right after that he re-added me on skype and tried to talk himself out of it and said he's sorry etc.

I also asked him if the account was still recalled and he said yes, but that didn't add up with the timeline of his epicNPC account because under the same time he was bumping his sell thread telling people the account was still for sale.

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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: Use
tags, refer to http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/48672...CTUAL-SKYPE-ID if Skype is your method of contact.
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.

[B]This is the last conversation we had. This is from Friday where he started to write to me (at this time i was not online) and up til today.

[URL]https://gyazo.com/a968a4d46fcb047945543b3bf897c077[/URL]
This is where it all started - I later on sunday came home and realized what happend. I then made the paypal dispute to a case and gave my explanation and he immediately shut it down.

[URL]https://gyazo.com/dcd8bd1502da9951e53a8d4980f29846[/URL]
This is him later just chitchatting and told me what he did (i was away eating food therefor no response)

[URL]https://gyazo.com/dac79b4241cb2d5f3b916e763ba4ae40[/URL]
This is where he asked for information which I would HAPPILY give him, even though he approved everything he got when the purchase happend. But I felt like I wanted to make a post here on EPICNPC after I've been in talk with Logisticz where he told me to make one.

[URL]https://gyazo.com/d3f47e85dfd7bd8a0702928c17fe5526[/URL]
Small talk again where I told him I was offline for 2 days and he didn't realise it. I'm calling bullshit lies due to him wanting to sell the account which can be EASILY checked in his account history at the SAME time he's telling me the account has been recalled. He's also very confident he'd get the money back, but it feels kinda strange because RIGHT after I made the Paypal dispute a case he closed it down and tried to be friendly again.

[URL]https://gyazo.com/aa52c50e004f082690e41f82da939f4c[/URL]
This is just small talk again but just proves my point. I know I was kinda rude but I was actually rather mad at this point.

[URL]https://gyazo.com/7442fa3aa5bd36ac537f16344ec0b8fc[/URL]
This printscreens proves the most points for you I'd guess. If you followed the conversation he said the same DAY at 5 PM that the account STILL not was in his possession, but this >
[URL]http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/829632-high-end-account-(-2-accounts)-EU[/URL]
was posted at 7 am in the morning which dont add up to the timeline.

So all in all he tried to sell the account, under the time he's blaming me that he's not in possession of the account to reclaim the money.[/B]

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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes / No (optional)
Yes I googled his name and checked his EpicNPC & Ownedcore profile, nothing bad found.

Have you traded with this person before? Yes / No (optional)
No I have not.

Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? (optional)
This is the first one from a request from him. As we used the middleman Logisticz

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Banned - scammer - http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/833740-Attempted-scam-by-user-Alkuwari-tried-to-dispute-the-money-over-paypal
hello
just to make everything clear like i told him a million times " i don't need the money" but i thought you recalled the account when you didnt respond to me in skype for 2 days maybe so i recalled the money in paypal then he replied in paypal saying that he didn't do it and i immediately contacted him in skype explaining what happened
he replied that i didn't do it immediately i went to paypal ( Canceled ) the dispute with my free will so he can have his money back thats all

all conversation is with me proving that but i don't know that is wrong with him if i wanted to take the money i would have kept the dispute not cancel it
finally if he was in my shoes he would do the same

thanks
 
From my point of view the main issue is that you are telling me that the account is NOT in your possession and then at the same point posting about it on EpicNPC - for me personally that doesnt add up.

Aswell as you lying in Paypal from the first telling them that we spoke with eachother about this when we ABSOLUTELY havent had a conversation.

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köpare=buyer.
 
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novaq sells account to Alkuwari - Aug 12
Alkuwari lists account for sale - Aug 18
Alkuwari asks novaq for updated ID, with face - Aug 21
Alkuwari claims account is recalled and opens paypal dispute - Aug 22
Alkuwari closed paypal dispute - Aug 23
Alkuwari askig for novaq's help recovering account - Aug 24
Alkuwari bumps post, still tying to sell - Aug 24 + Aug 26

alkuwari you bumped your thread twice on Aug 24 and Aug 26 saying it's still for sale. How is it for sale when on Aug 24 it was still recalled?

A warning has been added to alkuwari's account.
 
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