Account Recalled - Not sure who to blame

[Darkcow]

Information
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Date of trade - August 17th, 2012
Date recalled - August 27th, 2012
Method of contact used - Skype


EpicNPC accounts involved:

I got the account from Mrrsparkle
View Profile: Mrrsparrkle - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - EpicNPC

http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...arrior-proto-plauged-drake-^-^-older-pvp.html

Who got the account from Rhyme
View Profile: Rhyme - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - EpicNPC

http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...3-pve-ilvl-391-pvp-7k-achieves-oo-please.html

That's the farthest I was able to trace it


Scam Information
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Account scammed: The account scammed was an original classic Grand Marshal/Rank 14 Warrior, + 2 85s (and 6 more 80+ characters).
Approximate value of scammed property: $400.00-ish

Middleman used: No, but not applicable.

The account was traded to me from Mrrsparkle on August 17th. On August 27th I get an email saying the account has been locked, password has been changed. I received an email with a ticket marked "Answered":

http://i.imgur.com/YW9la.png

So as seen here, someone with an email that was previously registered to this account attempted to retrieve it. I'm not sure what information they had, considering I had changed the SQA. But it happened. I was able to retrieve the actual battle.net account, as it was not taken off my email for some reason? But all the associated accounts are now locked. So my assumption is, someone called to recall it, used the old email to verify, but couldn't verify the SQA since it was changed, so they wouldn't change the email until they got it verified with an ID Scan (which I was not given, if any of the previous owners have it). But they locked all the WoW accounts associated with it until the ID scan is given. I have no idea if any of that is correct, just my guess from what I've pieced together.

Proof
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What else do I need for proof? Not sure what else to post.

Additional Information
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Background searching: Yes, I looked up to see who owned the account previously, and saw it was Rhyme. Didn't see anything else of note, nor did I see how he got the account.

Have you traded with this person before: No.

Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? Between January 2007 and now, somewhere between 50 and 100 probably. More if you count little things like buying gold. Been here since it was Markee Dragon, through MMO Bay, and now EpicNPC .



So yeah Admin, not sure what else you need me to post. Please let me know. I can PM you anything you need unblurred and I have chat logs with Mrrsparkle (though I really don't suspect him). I'm not even sure where to go from here. But at the moment, I'm just completely out an account that I paid for. So yeah. Kind of not happy about it.

I was VERY careful with this account. For full disclosure, I had the account up for trade at

http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-usa-acco...other-80-2-them-85-vanilla-rank-14-druid.html

However, nobody other than myself has touched the account, I've had no hits on that (kinda hard when you're looking for a rank 14), I've never even logged on from another computer or IP address other than my own. Though I mean, it was recalled with a previous owner's email address, so none of this is really applicable. But just saying.

I've contacted Mrrsparkle, he's saying he's going to try to get in touch with both Rhyme and the Original Owner (I have never had contact with either of these two individuals). I'm asking him to post here as well with any information and his side of the story.

Thankyou!

 

[Twizz]

I have notified both of them.

 

[Mrrsparrkle]

Banned - Failed to resolve scam thread - http://www.epicnpc.com/active-disputes/467617-account-recalled-not-sure-who-blame.html

I will post more information when Im no so swamped with school work, which I have a day off tomorrow. He linked me the previous email which was attached to the account, which was linked to the previous owner before me. I'm going to do my best to help this kid out, cause this is some crap. I will get in touch with the JML (Skype) he's the one I got it from. I will also get in touch with the OO.

 

[Twizz]

I will post more information when Im no so swamped with school work, which I have a day off tomorrow. He linked me the previous email which was attached to the account, which was linked to the previous owner before me. I'm going to do my best to help this kid out, cause this is some crap. I will get in touch with the JML (Skype) he's the one I got it from. I will also get in touch with the OO.

Awesome, thanks. It appears all he needs is the ID to unlock the account but it is obvious someone tried recalling it, keep the thread updated when you can.

 

[Darkcow]

I sincerely appreciate the help, both Mrrsparkle and Sidney812. If I can just get an ID scan, the account should be okay. Just worries me that someone tried to recall it.

 

[Darkcow]

Currently awaiting an update from Mrrsparrkle. He said today was his day off and he'd look into it. No updates other than that.

 

[Twizz]

Darkcow anything? I will pm Mrrsparrkle.

 

[Darkcow]

No updates fromMrrsparrkle so far. Not sure if he's busy or what. I sent him a message on Skype and did not hear back yesterday, nor did I see him log on. Trying to be patient, because I appreciate any help he is willing to give. But haven't heard back so far since his post here.

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LOL. Actually, an update.

Just checked the character's Armory, the account has been unlocked and the character was logged on at

Last updated on 08/30/2012.
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So someone has the ID scan and took the character back. Not sure what to do from here...

 

[Darkcow]

So just again, the character is being actively played now (gear is changing, he's earning achievements and doing dungeons). I'm not sure if I should try to recall it from Blizzard? Because they obviously have the ID scan, so I don't know what that would even do.

I feel completely out of luck right now. Any help or suggestions from any mods or admins?

Edit: And no word from Mrrsparrkle since his post on the 28th.

 

[Twizz]

Email notified Mrrsparrkle.

 

[Darkcow]

I talked to the OO [edit: supposedly, the OO] on WoW (easy to track down, since he still plays on the same name/server I transferred it to)

here's the majority of the conversation (all the parts that matter)

I'm not sure I completely believe his story, but that is his side and what he claims happened.

Not sure where to go from here, still.

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Also to clarify - JML and Rhyme are the same person.

 

[doomedtofail]

Blizzard does not send emails to old addresses, ever period. Only the latest one associated with account. Once the email is changed and verified the change is verified. From experience the fact that you got an email saying the account was recalled to your email, it was done and initiated through phone customer support. Blizzard didn't send the OO an email saying to recover it as he said. The OO, as he claims to be, just walked in one day and recalled it. Not Surprisingly right at a major content update and before new expansion.

 

[Twizz]

I will notify Mrrsparrkle one more time. 48hrs till ban.

 

[Darkcow]

Blizzard does not send emails to old addresses, ever period. Only the latest one associated with account. Once the email is changed and verified the change is verified. From experience the fact that you got an email saying the account was recalled to your email, it was done and initiated through phone customer support. Blizzard didn't send the OO an email saying to recover it as he said. The OO, as he claims to be, just walked in one day and recalled it. Not Surprisingly right at a major content update and before new expansion.

Yep, this is pretty much what I was thinking. I'm not even 100% sure this is the OO, the only thing I know for sure is that he has an ID scan. So technically, if he hasn't changed the SQA (maybe, but I'd say he probably did, since I'm the one who changed the SQA), even if I recalled it, it'd basically do nothing.

So yeah I feel pretty screwed right now.

 

[Darkcow]

48 hours coming up pretty quickly. Still no word on skype or through PM from Mrrsparrkles. Warrior has been transferred off the server. I have NOT tried to recall the account, I'm not sure if I should try. SQA is most likely changed anyway. And besides, whoever has the account has the ID scan, so I'm screwed either way.

So yeah. I guess I'm just going to have to eat the loss. Sucks it turned out this way.

 

[rustypro98]

sry for butting in, but how did u get your aqa changed? im the oo and got scammed. Is it absolutely necessary that you contact blizzard by phone? Ive made tickets but the send me crap like do a virus scan, and change email pw that will keep ppl out of your wow account <-----retarded gms....

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Sry couldn't edit post, i found out what i have to do to change sqa= pain in the ***. You can try to get the account banned if nothing else. Just straight up show, and tell blizzard about your deal. Mostly frowned upon, but im pretty sure this is the situation to best use it in.

 

[Twizz]

Banned. Pm any of the forums leaders if he contacts you and wants to resolve this.