R3alAcc0unts's Wrong Accusations

BERAccounts.com · Oct 27, 2018

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CreativeBasement · Oct 27, 2018

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BERAccounts.com · Oct 27, 2018

First of all this isn't 450, it is 400 Euro. 50 Euro burned as transfer fees because ''your customer'' didn't paid fees. Now let's move to other topics that you mentioned in your message.

I offered you a refund at day 1, you refused and wanted to buy my hunter for 800 Euro. I offered you a refund for 400 Euro and you called me a stealer, thief and scammer. Just because you can't understand that 50 Euro is paid on fees!
You told me stealer, thief and scammer even after i saved your money

And why i did that? Because you would cry to pay you back another 400 Euro if you would get scammed for sure. It is clear because you even asked me to cover %50 of your money if you lose it while i was a ''middleman''.

About stealing 400, you reserved my account 3 times which is shown in pictures above. And in my disclaimer, i clearly mention that if you fail on your second payment, you won't get any refund. Don't use monthly payments if you aren't sure that you can make second payment. That disclaimer was there before you choosed that account from my shop and wanted to purchase.

Also this money came from another person which isn't you or your friends for sure. Probably you are using people's names and accounts for collect money, they are sending money to real person for you. And you are getting their money via non-sense refund requests from real seller to your own bank account. I even know you are using fake Paypal's and Fake Ebay accounts like yours. You mentioned that to me before for sure. Thats why your Playerauctions payments were failed countless time while trying to buy latest accounts from me. Because your Paypal and PA account's informations weren't matching. You are banned on Ownedcore, you are banned on Playerauctions, you are banned on Ebay with your real and non-repped accounts, you are suspended on Paypal for identity issues, you are banned on *** and you are banned on every single platform except this one.

About asking +300 Euro, we made a agreement on 800 Euro which is you confirmed three times(can be seen on pictures that i uploaded). Then you are coming and saying you can pay 700, next week you are coming and saying that you can pay 600. This isn't your world. You were knew that i wouldn't refund that money because you were aware of my disclaimer.
Suddenly your father got sick, you got crippled, your got broke, you couldn't even afford 3 meal in a day, you couldn't even go to school bla bla. But buddy if you can't even afford a simple meal, why you are making a deal with ''my'' customer for his account which is 1.200 Euro? Did you think i am stupid or something? Then what is happened? Same excuses like you can't reach to your father, your mother will sign the payment for your dad but you can't reach to your mother aswell

Even you sent him money which is 21 days locked but he refunded.
''So that clearly shows that you had the cash and all of these excuses were lies.''

If a deal is made and you confirmed three times while knowing my rules and being aware of my disclaimer, you can't come and try to play with me. If a deal is done, that means you need to face with consequences of it. Like i told you in that picture which is right above of your picture that you didn't showed, i clearly said ''I was going to refund you just because you were my friend. Now you are not my friend and i don't even need to pay you a dime.'' which is totally true and i have right to keep that money without any question. You were aware of every rule of me and you were reserved that account three times. Thats the end of this part without any question.

No you don't have any freedom to give me about this deal. Lets recap your negative feedback's description for show your lies:

I was for a long time a satisfied buyer from him und would have put the hands in the fire for himCorrect you purchased 5-6 account from me.None of them got callback or anything. Still, he is not perfect. i bought an account for 450 € and he could not deliver it,No you didn't purchased a 450 Euro account. You made first monthly payment for a 800 Euro account of mine. where he said before the payment everything will be ready. Fine, but the money never returned, he made a million promises about returning it over and over again.It states in my disclaimer clearly. If you miss the second payment, i won't make any refund. You didn't send me second 400 Euro payment even after 2 months. I hold the account for you nearly 2 months and refused many customers for higher prices. Also you gave me millions of promises for sending second 400 for months not me. First 100 % later 50 € less, then only half, but not even that happened. Nothing.I offered you full refund before you reserved my account. You refused to get refund and wanted to reserve my hunter. After a while i offered you 400 Euro refund but you called me thief,scammer for not sending 50 Euro Bank to Bank Fee to you. He does'nt response either and he is very arrogant about it. I can even upload 100 insult made by you in a second. I don't talk with people who has not enough will and mental power. Neither has he given me the possibilty of buying a similar Account.You reserved one of my different accounts after i saved you from getting scammed. So technically after you liked and reserved my 800 Euro account with using that 400 Euro, it clearly shows i gave you that oppurtunity.
Later he comes to me and ask about 300 more?I ask why?Umm.. Maybe it is your second payment that you didn't made for your account? Who knows

Also it shows i did you -100 Euro more discount aswell. he says he is missing money to buy something. I tell him i gave him 450 that are still in his hands...he said this money doesnt matter.Totally non sense like his other claims. I don't even need reponse to that one.

I answered your picture already so i am passing that part. You just wrote hello when i was afk that's all. When i came back, i seen your feedback with full of lies and wrote you that messages.

A good seller, wanted to made you full return three times. But you refused and wanted to purchase one of my accounts.
A good seller, waited you to buy that account for 2 months with declining other offers for account that you liked and paid first half for it.
A good seller, didn't left you while you call him scammer,thief and many stupid words.
A good seller, found you new accounts to make you afford that second payment to me.
A good seller, become your only friend in your life and covered your back.
A good seller, prevent you to be scammed for 400 Euro by using his brain.
A good seller, listened your non sense hours long stupid excuses and stories without saying anything.

A bad customer, used someone elses money to make a payment. We don't know who paid, who's money is this or anything related to him.
A bad customer, even used his family for hold account for 2 months. He used cheap excuses for not pay second monthly payment that he promised. But in that time, bad customer can try to make deals for +1.000 Euro with your customers.
A bad customer, can tell you anything he wants but if you say him something regular in the end, he can act like he lost his baby biscuit.
A bad customer, can try to scamm people that you sent to him for make him earn some more money to afford his life/promises.
A bad customer, can ask you to pay %50 of money if he gets scammed and lost his money. While he wants to getting scammed for some reason

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A bad customer, always be a bad customer.

This guy can't give me a negative feedback for his own mistakes. It is clearly another fake story and fake claims. Even his feedback description is full of lies and shame. I wrote a totally normal disclaimer which is website gives me right to do, and i played my game in that rules. I have every right to keep that money and he has not any right to cry for that money. This guy is full of wrong accusations, lies and mental issues.

UPDATE: Also i seen that part just now:
A good seller would have made a full return as the primary deal failed, he promising me before payment everything will go smooth.

Mod why do i ahve trade with caution? He literally said he can make every negative feedback go away, with important friends here?

I didn't broke the deal. This is the part that your brain isn't support.
I hold that account for 2 months just for you. Because you reserved it three times and made first payment for it. I got many offers which is even higher than our deal, but i refused.

Also i didn't claimed anything related how i can delete any feedback. If you have proof you can show that or you are a liar.

Imagine a paper. You were holding from left side, and i was holding from right side. I tried to keep that paper smoth and clean, but you tried to damage, sully and tear to pieces. So you made that paper divide into two.
Right now, i am holding the clean piece and you are holding the dirty piece. But why you are crying for the my piece that i am holding after paper is divide into two? Wasn't it expected?

Additional Info: I just realized that you are claiming your acccounts are custom made in your topic. First of all you dont have enough sources, connections and knowledge for doing custom accounts. All of your account comes from random and cheapest sellers. Which has more callback risk than any others. All of them pretty simple second hand accounts without anything special. And you are advertising them as perfectly safe and uncallbackable by real owner. This is the biggest lie i've ever seen. You even claim that you created all of these accounts! It is ridicilious.

Also while offering perfect safety, why you added ''No guarantee, No Refund'' under your cheap listings? How ironic...

BERAccounts.com · Oct 29, 2018

[HIDE=99999]I've proven my claims related that issue with sharp and beyond doubt evidences. These evidence clearly shows that i am right on that matter and i have every rights to hold that money. Everything occured inside my disclaimer and trading rules that goes on for many years.

Even on my only negative feedback's story that given by that person, shows he is a extreme liar and he doesn't hesisate to say countless lies to save himself from every situation. None of his claims matches with Skype conversation that i provided.

I submit my requests regarding to delete that negative feedback given by him on that matter.[/HIDE]

CreativeBasement · Oct 29, 2018

All i read is bla bla bla. you use your disclaimer now, but following this you should have given me an alrternate account for the money i already invested what did not happen.

What did happen is you failed to deliver and you descrioption in the tread states you own 100 % of your accounts, what is a lie, you didnt own it, you had to buy it first and you werent succesfully.

So, the buisness failed primary on your side, this gives me the ruight to get a full refund in the first place.

Now...what did you offer me? A partcualr worse account for 400 € more money? And how i later found out you asked me for more than you would list it? Are you nuts?

You said several times you will give me the refund:

At the beginning
After you sell the hunter: what did happen and you gave me nothing
2 weeks ago
1 week ago
And now you came to me asking me 300 € for an account you want to buy, because you are missing the money for it as you were overcalculating?

The money is rightfully mine. That or you are supposed to give me an alternate account.

And dont start with a promise, as you were ot fullfilled either.

You will get the negative feedback deleted as i get 400 € back ( you can steal 50 € out of it) or an alternate account.

Stop abusing your so called reputation here,

AND YOUR NOT AN ANGEL YOU WERE BANNED SEVERAL TIMES ON PLAYERS AUCTIONS AS ARE YOU NOW BECAUSE YOU DOESNT FOLLOW THE USER AGREEMENT. YOU TAKE FACTS AND DISCLAIMERS HOWEVER IT SUITS YOUR NEEDS AND GIVES YOU FREE PASSES. NEITHER DO YOU OWN THE ACCOUNTS AS YOU SAY IN YOUR THREAD. YOUR A LIEER AND KEEPING THIS MONEY MAKES YOU A STEALER

CreativeBasement · Oct 29, 2018

Not even 2 weeks ago he made big promises once again to making a full return. But always somehow missing the money and he needs to sell seomthing. Until recently...than he started not even responding anymore about the money.

All he wrote here about me the made up stuff is to lead away from the fact that he wants the negative feedback back and has money of mine he cant pay out since months, using "rights" hower it suits his needs....

Your a stealer bera

CreativeBasement · Oct 29, 2018

Dear epicnpc, now he started to spamming in my thread, claiming that i claim something. I am a trusted seller and never have i hear or somewhere else doen something shady or bad. I might be new here but thats a different story

Yes bera all the account i state are enirely created by me for the purpose of the safety of my customers. we were long time friends so you basically know it, as i know for a certain or did i that you were trustfully, what changed recently....sadly

You suck up 450 €...you just suck it up and i am exhausted, asking for it..i am, this is why i gave up and if it would have been someone different i wold have made a bad feedback along time ago.

CreativeBasement · Oct 29, 2018

Once again, when will i get a refund or an alternate account?

CreativeBasement · Oct 29, 2018

And the promises on the proofs shown were a long time after the deal you offered me i never had the money for the begin with. So yes its just an excuse NOW so you can suck the money up. Give it back dude, it doesnt belong to you.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 30, 2018

You are still lying without thinking but i am relax about it. Because everybody can see who is lying and trying to hide the truth. Before going to answer your accusations, i will make one point clear for you.
No you can't be creator of accounts that you are selling. Even you are advertising my account as your created it. So lets pass that part.

1-Your picture clearly shows even after 2 months of waste of my time, i was going to refund you. But important question is "why" i changed my mind about it?

•When i checked "your payment" i seen that this money doesn't belongs to you. It is not matching with your details that you sent me. So you know i love to solve puzzles in my mind. You told me that the person who sent money to me lives in a place that nearly has no connection with world. But how you arrange to made him pay to me then? Why you tried to hide him from me so hard that still i don't know who is he?

That spark made me see the reality finally. When i taught that as a scamming method, everything set without any gap. I clearly added proof that you are using my name to get customers and fake vouchs without my knowledge. Recently before that trade happened, you wanted my phone number which is clearly shown in my Skype. You told me that you will get a message just for something you need. I received a code from a different number belongs to another country and delivered it to you.
After i received that money from unknown person, you were acting like you can risk it and it is not important for you. That is why you refused my refund requests because if money goes back, you was knew that you couldn't get it again. Because money wasn't belongs to you.

Then you pretend to reserve my account countless times for just make me the keep the money and secure it for you. Then you would use refund excuses to get that money from me to your own bank account. Because clearly you gave me your paypal for refund

Like you did to me and other person that i uploaded picture of him and you, you are trying to pay with shady methods. I know you are using fake Paypals for transport. You even offered that to me because Turkey has no Paypal. So you are receiving money for a fake wow account that doesnt belongs to you and you want them to transfer that cash to your fake Paypal. Then you have to send that cash as soon as possible before getting caught and money stuck. So you are sending money to sellers for reserve their account. Like you tried to do to other person 600/600 as two payment and to me like 400/400.

When money totally gets secured, you are talking about fake issues in life and giving your own paypal for refund. So you are scamming people via using other people.

Remember buddy i am master at this. That is why i can give full refund and %100 warranty for my accounts. You can't play with me because you don't have enough skills for it.

**Detailed version shared on next post with hidden tag for dear admin/moderators.

CreativeBasement · Oct 30, 2018

Not even once was i using your name anywhere, the customers asked about you or used you. I dont need your name as i am far more experienced with selling accounts and account safety in general

2 ebay accounts i own with over 200 positive feedbacks and 100 %
On 1 over 50 and 100 %
on the fourth 15 feedbacks and 100%

Centered around wow accounts and other stuff, mostly feedbacks for selling.

So yeah your beneath me. But your widley more poular here, thats not new.

All my Accounts excist

Cut the crap bera, we both know this is just vengence because of the bad feedback i gave you for not responding to my questions abouut my belongings. At the end only watching at them bored....surely its not your money and your parents are rich. You dont understand what a normal person goes through.

But the Irony is, how frustrated you have became, you went so far that you inventeed stuff, made accusations as a feedback, in this thread, even in my shop thread...karma is ***** pal. Not so amusing? Welcome, noe you know how i felt.

In my country you would end in the prison for this or pay big big bills...in tourkey well, lets say it is a bit non civilized over there, apperently. Reputational damage, there is no worse than that

Now, i have 8 feedbacks from you where you write how great i am...here and on player auctions and some days ago we just talked like normal people, dont act like you recently learned about me and found out everything is just fake.

It is not and i can proof it. While you just confirmed that you are keeping other peoples money.

Anorther fun fact, if you would follow disclaimers of others you would have no right to sell accounts to begin with or share them. If you would have followed the disclaimer of player auctions you would not be banned, twice niow. Just like it fits for now and then.

The primary deal, the money was for failed. in several instances you promised to make a full or near full refund, at one point after the hunter, what your excuses are about. I didnt hear a single word after that.

And the proofs above are from 2 weeks ago, so faaaar faar after that.

If you fail as a seller do deliver an item the money was for, you cant ask him to pay more for a less greater one. If i do that fine, if not well only thing that leaves you is a refund, thats what you own, as a real seller, what you are not. What i would have done, but man your greedy and self centered.

The accusation spam in my selling thread of you will lead in another dispute, this time from me, also for the money you own me.....you broke my trust. i deeply regret not using a middle man system as before....human beings are dirty.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 30, 2018

-There is one important point needs to mentioned. This person is banned on Ownedcore/***/Playerauctions/Ebay and Paypal with many different accounts. So he needs to use some type of local and not popular WoW trading platforms for find victims. And i know he is listing his accounts on some type of local forums because he told me before.

1-Spektral finds a customer for his fake listings. But he needs to use accounts that he can access to somehow. For example he wanted to meet in game for see my accounts countless times. Because i have a solid rule about in-game meetings. No talk, no party invite or not any connection. Customer chooses a place and i just pass him by and log out. That is my process about in-game meetings. And that person made me to it countless times but i wasn't just aware of his intention.
Spektral creates a WTS topic on a local platform and probably puts a low price tag on it. After he proofs that he is the owner of the account with in-game meetings, victim convinces and wants to send money to Spektral.
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HKQ5Eoe.png (I gave him my Iban at 4.09.2018)
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HKQ8nWQ.png (Here is the person who paid to me. This isn't Spektral i can confirm that)

2-Spektral goes to seller and purchases that account for himself with his victim's money. Then he tries to sell these accounts for make some money. This is what should be happen in our case either. But this time, he couldn't purchase what he wanted. Because there was two scammer and one of them getting caught by me. So i saved that money and wanted to refund it.
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HKol1EB.png (I clearly offer him refund at even day 1)
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HKonUgN.png (He wants me to keep the money in my bank account)
SS3: https://pasteboard.co/HKoovIY.png (Here is clearly he wants to buy my hunter with that money)
SS4: https://pasteboard.co/HKon0Ml.png (Here is how we count that payment as first monthly payment for my hunter)

So issue was clear. If i would make a refund to that bank adress, he wouldn't get his dirty money and would waste time for nothing. So, he have to use his reservation method. Let me explain that method quickly again. He wants to purchase one expensive account and while that time, you are holding and securing that dirty money for him without knowing. Let me upload another scamming attempt pictures from my first post to here aswell.

SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HKphZMJ.png
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HKpiEdD.png (It is also shows that he used a fake Paypal for that transaction)
SS3: https://pasteboard.co/HKpiSUZ.png (He needs account for scamm more people. So basically after he receives the info, he can make in-game meetings aswell for find more victims)
SS4: https://pasteboard.co/HKpjaTW.png

So basically in that attempt, he got money to his fake Paypal account but you guys know that if you don't act fast, you will get caught and your money will stuck. But in that time, he forgot to send as Family Friends and when he got instant refund, his 600 Euro stuck aswell. That's why he was so angry.
But in my case, everything was perfect for him. He reserved my account three times and keep that money secured for 2 months. He knows that i am not the guy who you can play with easily. So he was waiting for right moments for ask for refund.
First, he said his father had health issues, then his mother got sick, then he went broke and asked for money to government, then he couldn't pay his bills etc. Everything was going good because i was ready for refund. But then the person who was nearly scammed by that person contacted with me. He told me that he was able to pay him 600 Euro and reserve 1.200 Euro worth of account while he saying to me that he can't even pay his own bills. So he is exposed.

He uploaded a picture that says i was telling him i will refund that money soon, i had no exchanger for it yet. I was just making investigation in that time. Because i learned that he was chasing another russian Account for 800 Euro either. I can upload these pictures aswell if needed.

So basically method is simple:
1-He makes someone pay for a fake account.
2-He clears money with Fake Paypal and purchases that account for himself. / If he has no Paypal available, he makes customer sent money directly to seller.
3-He pretents to reserve something with that money.
4-After a while when seller starts to get upset, he starts to play to the hearts and asks for refund. He gives his own Paypal adress for refund aswell.
5-He clears the dirty money with no chargeback risk.

Here is proof that he gives his own paypal for refund: https://pasteboard.co/HKQjA1M.png

So basically like i showed with countless evidence. He has a lying habit and sick mind. None of the accusations made to me isn't real. I have even every right to hold that money inside my disclaimer/trading rules. His negative feedback is also full of lies and ridicilious.

I submit my request to delete his negative feedback from my profile.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 30, 2018

About your latest comment. Hahahaha you need to be locked into a mental hospital buddy.
No you don't own any of these Ebay adressses, and no you didn't sold anything in your past.

You are just another amateur scammer caught by me nothing more.

If you think you have more experience than me, you are living into another dimension buddy. I am the guy who sold +100 accounts in less than a year, not you. You are just a scammer who tries to make money from desperate people. I am the guy who plays this game in fair rules.

Nobody cannot say that i didn't delivered something after receive the money. People trust me to send thousands of Euro and you are claiming that i stole your 400 Euro. No buddy, it is mine. Also it doesn't belongs to you so why are you crying for it tho?

Oh if you say ''I worked hard for scamm that person's money and waste your 2 month'' yeah, it is your money. But you won't get it.

Note: How you can still accuse me to break deal? Because it doesn't makes any sense.

Also WRITING WITH

COLORS DOESN'T MAKE YOU RIGHT

Zoefken · Oct 30, 2018

I believe you two should stop typing the same thing and wait for a moderator. Both seem to have thruts in the story. Yet one is loosing his money because the other is holding it for no apparent reason.

CreativeBasement · Oct 30, 2018

Yeah and the differnce is. I chose the right way. I wrote a bad feedback stating my experience, even the good past.

While he now goes fully and trully the cheap "SCAMZ DETECTED" Route.

Neither did i spam his shop thread or accused him of being a scamer/shady. What he began now.

How many refund he way able to send me in his promises, always depended on the money he had now.

So the refund promises changed from 100% to 50 %, back to 100% and now to 0%

Because, he is low at money right now, even asked me to spent 300 € for an account he intends to buy but has not the money to do so....this is really wrong, neither can he back it up or would i make 100% profite ouf it, as he claims.....a serious seller should never ask a buyer something like that.

And i am not someone, i am his most regular buyer, who bought 7 accounts of him...first time without middle man and this is how it ended....i really trusted him.

He believes his popularity and his feedbacks give him the righht nowadays however it likes, even believes the mods work under him.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 30, 2018

Zoefken said:
I believe you two should stop typing the same thing and wait for a moderator. Both seem to have thruts in the story. Yet one is loosing his money because the other is holding it for no apparent reason.

Please don't do any comment if you don't understand the situation or what is all about. There is unreal amount reasons that gives me hold that money and also there is unreal amount of reasons about why he can't receive that money.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 30, 2018

R3alAcc0unts said:
Yeah and the differnce is. I chose the right way. I wrote a bad feedback stating my experience, even the good past.

While he now goes fully and trully the cheap "SCAMZ DETECTED" Route.

Neither did i spam his shop thread or accused him of being a scamer/shady. What he began now.

How many refund he way able to send me in his promises, always depended on the money he had now.

So the refund promises changed from 100% to 50 %, back to 100% and now to 0%

Because, he is low at money right now, even asked me to spent 300 € for an account he intends to buy but has not the money to do so....this is really wrong, neither can he back it up or would i make 100% profite ouf it, as he claims.....a serious seller should never ask a buyer something like that.

And i am not someone, i am his most regular buyer, who bought 7 accounts of him...first time without middle man and this is how it ended....i really trusted him.

He believes his popularity and his feedbacks give him the righht nowadays however it likes, even believes the mods work under him.

Do you think your cheap lies has any value on people's eyes? You can even still talk about how i offered you a refund it is ridicilious. I uploaded screenshots and everything about why you can't and won't get refund from me.

Of course you can't go and accuse me with anything because i am clean. I have nothing to hide about my business.

I even told you in that picture which is you uploaded as evidence of nothing. I have a pretty sharp disclaimer about monthly payment refunds and if i want, i don't need to pay you a dime from that money. You reserved that account ''3'' times, you choosed that account and we agreed on 800 Euro in total as our price. We counted your 400 Euro which i saved from getting scammed, and you still had to pay me 400 Euro more. In 2 months, you didn't paid that 400 Euro. In my disclaimer, it states clearly ''If you can't make your second payment in provided time, you won't get any refund.'' Why you little brain doesn't understand that and you keep talking like a parrot for how i gave you a promise for refunds. Just explain why you couldn't pay? Why you dropped crocodile tears for imaginary family issues and imaginary financial issues? I even uploaded couple screenshots that shows you were trying to buy 1.200 Euro worth of account while telling me your mouth stinks from being hungry. ''You even paid him 600 Euro in that time.'' I don't like people trying to play with me. If you play dirty, mud will sully your hands and everybody can see you are playing shady. Even you tried to purchase 800 Euro worth of another account in that time.
--Everything i wrote above, has screenshot proofs that i uploaded.

So why i need to explain something about that? You explain why you lying about everything? Why your feedback is nothing more than lies?
I never gave you any promise for refund except twice. I doesn't even count ones that you refused to get back. Because you wasn't own that bank account so your scamm money would go back. I wanted to refund you as 400 Euro, you called me thief for stealing 50 Euro. Do you really think that if someone sends 450 from another country, it comes at 450? That was your first warning that day i gave you.
Next day you came to me and apologized about that and you told me that you will keep your word and pay to rest. (Screenshot of it added by the way) Did you paid after that? No you didn't. Did you lied to me while you had money? Yeah you did. I don't need to give you a single dime from that money. This isn't a charity work.

Let's say you went for buy a house. They asked half of the money for reserve the house to you. Then you failed to make second payment in period that given to you by house owner. You told stories about how your family issues ruined you, how poor you are, how bad is your life. Will he give your money back? He won't even care. Because you did the deal and you broke to deal. He doesn't care if you have money or not. Simple you get that risk, you reserved the house and you failed to pay. Also there is some effect that house owner seen you while you try to buy other houses in the same street while telling him your cheap broke excuses. And now you are saying, you can sue him and take your money back. Government won't care if you failed to keep your promises, house owner won't care if you failed to keep your promises. Nobody won't care about your problem because you are the one who took the risk, who acted without thinking and you are the one who loves to lie for everything just for save yourself.

I am not low on money and never will be. I just don't have enough fast and rechargeable Paypal flow that's all. Also by the way on that 300 Euro matter, I told you that i will pay 500 Euro and if you pay 300 Euro you can sell that one for double profit. Also i don't buy full accounts unless they from known and safe sources. So that is why i offered him the shell for 300 if he wants to buy. I don't own that account or i didn't purchased. I only made a meeting for him. I found a profit chance, and told him to use it because like i mentioned 100x times, he acts like he is ultra poor and can't even feed himself but he will get money from government soon. So i wanted him to make some profit for stop crying.
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HKRTDpF.png

He also claims that i didn't gave him any response so he gave me a bad feedback because i wasn't talking with him. Here is proof of that i gave him a response before go to bed and he gave me a negative feedback next noon. He even lies on that matter. I even clearly say i don't have time for argument because it is boring to waste time with that kid every day.
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HKRUjIv.png

Also you stated as ''a serious seller should never ask a buyer something like that.''
Isnt you the guy every day comes to me and begs for cheap accounts? Ridicilious.

You are really 15 iq or mentally broken person. Let's make a simple math.
Account's Price = 800 Euro
First Payment You Did = 400 Euro
800(total price)-400(your payment)=400 Euro(amount was needed to pay)

So why are you still acting like you didn't received something, how i held your money. Bro that missing 400 didn't arrived to me even after 2 months of waiting. So what i need to deliver to you? 800 Euro account for 400 Euro? Or do you want me to wait 2 month and say ''Oh you failed to make second payment. No problem even tho i lost many customer, money and even new expansion came since you made first payment. But it is okey i will make you a refund.''
Nobody in that business makes refund if you can't do the second payment. Literally nobody. This isn't mine or their issue. This is your issue.

I don't believe to any of that. But i believe to one thing which is people who in that business can clearly understand who has the lying habit and ill mind. I proved everything but you just talk stupid but keep it i don't mind. Starting from now, i won't response to you. Because i wasted enough time with a nobody who wannabe next 4ce7anilla.

EpicNPC CM · Oct 30, 2018

Closing for review, there is a lot to go through here, will update shortly.

EpicNPC CM · Oct 31, 2018

To summarize:

r3alaccounts asks bera act as a middleman and purchase an account for him.
r3alaccounts sends 400 euro to bera for account.
bera checks the account, it was not as described by the seller, so bera refused to pay.
r3alaccounts told bera to pay anyways, bera refuses, says he will refund r3alaccounts (at this point the money should have been returned immediately)

after some time....

r3alaccounts shows interest in buying a different account/character from bera for 850 euro
bera refuses because r3alaccounts doesn't have full 850 euro.
r3alaccounts says bera should keep money to make another deal.
r3alaccounts says he wants to reserve a character from bera . Claims he will make second payment of 450 euro.
bera asks when payment will be made, r3alaccounts gives no clear answer, the account in question is still "reserved"
Eventually r3alaccounts wants to back out of the reservation and is interested in purchasing an account from another person.
bera keeps the 400 euro, r3alaccounts gives negative feedback here, bera opens dispute

correct?

How long has bera had the original money for? I see some of the chat is from mid september so its at least over a month so far.

What day was the account reserved by r3alaccounts?

CreativeBasement · Oct 31, 2018

No it was 450 € for an account he failed to deliver, while he said everything will be fine.

First after they payment he started arguing about him being not trustworthy, and he wont buy....not even having the control over the sellers account as he is supposed to have

The fact that bera insisted several times to keep the money for made up reasons like disclaimer and other stuff lead me to the decision of keeeping it served, because i felt like it would lead to not get anything.

Inbetween we had several sessions where i insisted getting refundedm, somestimes he said yes, but did not refund me sometimes he said no, because of stupid reasons like a promise, what does not give him the right to have a saying abouzt the money.

Neither am i supposed to pay 400 more € for an wiorse account after i paid already 400 and he failed to deliver, thats quitwe alot to ask someone and i did not had any protection.

Later it became clear i was no longer his prioriry. The proofs i made are from 2 weeks ago long after the hunter. Excuses excuses excuses....and i have always to apologize as he owns the money and i have just to beg he gives it back

And the fact that he made accusations far beyound any human sense, is quite missibng here. This gioes just to fear and its called bullying and discrimination on a new level and shows what he is really capable of.

I really waited a long time until i gave him the negative feedback. There is no regularity in his words. sometiimes he says he will pay me out, other times i deserve nothing.

And there is no indication i would have gotten the hunter as i wasnt able to get the dk either.

i Send something via pn and there is something else i want like to share. Its really sad that before the payment i was his priority afterwards he always ignored me and put me in the last place. Its clear he is missing the money now as it changed again to nothing.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 31, 2018

Sorry i am middle of a deal. I've seen these posts but i want to finish my business first then i will explain these questions with clear mind.

CreativeBasement · Oct 31, 2018

Here it is where it became disgusting some days ago.

Talking to me arrogant like the last sh1t on earth. Says i have reserved something. What is wrong as i have originally reserved the dk and second, when he had the hunter i asked him several times to make a refund as i feel like the hunter is not worth the money. He did not game me any choice.

"I can even make you wait" - Ehh what? What the hell? Is this some mafia thing

"I dont care" Very rude

Here it is were itz beomes even worse. After that. he ask me to pay for an deal he needs the money for all around 300 € i am supposed to sent to him to make a profite.

This is disgusting. I really became disgusted art this point

I tell him that i have given ghim an amount of money 450 €.

He says...it doesnt matter. Its not including my money. LÖike it never excisted

Not only proofs this that he thinks of me highly as he asks me for money, but that at tghe end he can act and change his rules however he likes.

This is where i gave up

A little after he said he will talk later abourt my money

Did not happen.

Next time i asked again about my refund

he only has seen the message and did not answered for hours

so i gave up to become free of his leverage over me.

He has his good deeds, but many bad deeds aswell. and the good doesnt wash out the bad.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 31, 2018

EpicNPC CM said:
To summarize:

r3alaccounts asks bera act as a middleman and purchase an account for him.
r3alaccounts sends 400 euro to bera for account.
bera checks the account, it was not as described by the seller, so bera refused to pay.
r3alaccounts told bera to pay anyways, bera refuses, says he will refund r3alaccounts (at this point the money should have been returned immediately)

after some time....

r3alaccounts shows interest in buying a different account/character from bera for 850 euro
bera refuses because r3alaccounts doesn't have full 850 euro.
r3alaccounts says bera should keep money to make another deal.
r3alaccounts says he wants to reserve a character from bera . Claims he will make second payment of 450 euro.
bera asks when payment will be made, r3alaccounts gives no clear answer, the account in question is still "reserved"
Eventually r3alaccounts wants to back out of the reservation and is interested in purchasing an account from another person.
bera keeps the 400 euro, r3alaccounts gives negative feedback here, bera opens dispute

correct?

How long has bera had the original money for? I see some of the chat is from mid september so its at least over a month so far.

What day was the account reserved by r3alaccounts?

Hello dear Admin.

Money arrived to my bank at 10.08.2018 (I uploaded screenshots above)
His primary deal with other seller failed at 10.08.2018
He reserved my 850 Euro worth of account at 10.08.2018 & 11.08.2018 (I uploaded screenshots above)
He reserved my 850 Euro account total of 4 times including his latest apology message to me. (I uploaded screenshots above)
He wasted my 2 months since 10.08.2018 to 31.10.2018

Basically reservation didn't happened after some time. I would do a bank transfer which is takes 2-4 days to arrive back. I informed him but he refused to take refund and choosed my hunter by himself. (I uploaded screenshots above)
While he wasted my two month with claiming that he has not even food for eat, he was trying to purchase 1.200 Euro worth of account + 800 Euro worth of account. (I uploaded screenshots above)
After 2 months, he comes and asks for a refund which is i have every right to refuse after 2 months of wasted time. I stated that into my disclaimer clearly, i told him that clearly aswell.

https://pasteboard.co/HKonUgN.png (Can be seen slightly 11 Eylul which means 11 September)
https://pasteboard.co/HKoovIY.png (11 September's Midnight - Clearly it shows i offered him something worth 400 Euro but he refused and told me that he wanted my Hunter and clearly i told him that it is reserved to him now.)
https://pasteboard.co/HKopxKC.png (Here is i double checked at 13 September for Reservation and he approved)

My old posts and proofs clearly shows that even his story in my negative feedback, doesn't match with reality. He doesn't even provide any proof only he uploaded one photo which is shows me as ''If i want i can keep that money 2 months aswell.'' which is totally understandable. I waited 2 months without saying anything so if i would wanted to do that, i would make him wait 2 months in fair rules. Also these things doesn't proof anything.

I submit my requests to delete that negative feedback from my profile. If any additional information requires, i am here to provide everything without any doubt.

Additional: Also why this guy keeps showing that 500-300 Euro offer i have no idea. Because even in that picture, i clearly state keep our business away from that deal. And the way i say, shows how many times i faced with stupid excuses for refund and he keeps pinched that to every conversation.
About his ''He didn't gave me answer.'' message, I told him clearly i don't have time for arguments, talk to you later at 12PM. He disputed me at 2PM next day. I have a school to go, i have two business to turn, i have a life to live. When i want to answer you, i can answer anytime i want. You are not the center of my life or anything near to that.

Additional 2: Why you started to ask for refund recently? Because you learned that people came to me and talked about your dirty business and shady attempts. You were knew that people came to me who you tried to work with. For example your 1.200 Euro deal which is ''YOU SENT HIM 600 EURO'', came to me. While that time, you were asking for refund to me with using your made up fake excuses. How poor you are, how sick your family, how you can't find money etc etc. But suddenly one guy says you told him that your dad will pay, your mother will go and sign the payment paper. Wasn't they sick, or wasn't you super poor who can apply to government support?
(I uploaded screenshots above for all those claims that i made. Including other seller's screenshots who owns that 1.200 Euro worth of other account)

That's why you rushed and when you finally learned that i was aware of that, you tried to escape with giving a negative which is i am repeating again, full of lies/wrong accusations and non sense claims. This is your revenge attempt, not mine.

Note: I removed the hidden posts except one. While this guy talks and lies like that, people can think he is right on that matter.

CreativeBasement · Oct 31, 2018

Yet again. Nothing of this frees you of paying me back my money.

The hunetr has nothing to do with you being in debt, be it an alternate account or money. The accounts you jhad to offer were worse and i should have paid an amount of money after i already did once, and i cant do that. I went with it later because i feared you will become stubborn and forget about it, because after the money is paid, the buyer doesnt matter anylöonger to most selelrs....well same with you.

AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ACCUSING ME OF HAVING MONEY FROM SCAMED CUSTOMERS, BEING OVERAL FAK, MAKE WRONG CLAIMS TO LURE VICTIMS TO MY ACCOUNTS IS BEYOND ANY MEASURE...IN PARTICULAR THIS IS AN CRIME PEOPLE GO FOR PRISON.

IN MY OWN SHOP THREAD I SPENT HOURS TU BUILD UP AND MAINTAIN, SPENDING MONEY. I DID NOT TOUCH YOUR THREADS.

NOTHING OF THIS DOES MATTER. PROMISES ARE NO PAPER DEAL, ITS AN BETTER MAYBE AS YOUR PROMISE I WILL ACHIVE THE DK WAS THE FIRST PROMISE TO FAIL - DOES IT GAVE ME THE RIGHT TO OWN 450 € OVER YOU BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO DELIVER THE ACCOUNT I WISHED FOR???

JUST MAKE THE REFUND, DELETE THE THINGS YOU WROTE IN THE THREAD AND WE WILL BE ALL GOOD. OR KEEP THEM AND LOSE YOUR DIGNITY OR WHAT IS LEFT.

What is wrong with you? I had 2 times where i could not deliver an item. 1 Time because of an suprisingly callback another because he was banned for botting, of the user before him and the account was reported afterwards.

They were fully refunded. I offered one i casn give him another, he was interested and said he will buy, he changed his opinion, i refunded him....i had a disclaimer aswell for no returns.

I really dont understand this bullsh1t it is so damn childisch bera, you can do it better.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 31, 2018

Your Claims: AND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ACCUSING ME OF HAVING MONEY FROM SCAMED CUSTOMERS, BEING OVERAL FAK, MAKE WRONG CLAIMS TO LURE VICTIMS TO MY ACCOUNTS IS BEYOND ANY MEASURE...IN PARTICULAR THIS IS AN CRIME PEOPLE GO FOR PRISON.
My Answer: All of your claims are fake about your accounts. None of them ''custom made'' neither you are the ''creator of these accounts.''
And from my experience with scammers, if there is any prison or FBI in a threat sentence, that means all of my points were right

Your Claims: N MY OWN SHOP THREAD I SPENT HOURS TU BUILD UP AND MAINTAIN, SPENDING MONEY. I DID NOT TOUCH YOUR THREADS.
My Answer: You might be waste your hours and days for just create that topic. But that doesn't makes all of your claims are true. Simply you are lying to people for sell something. And yeah you can't touch to my thread because my business is clean and i have nothing to hide from anyone.

Your Claims: NOTHING OF THIS DOES MATTER. PROMISES ARE NO PAPER DEAL, ITS AN BETTER MAYBE AS YOUR PROMISE I WILL ACHIVE THE DK WAS THE FIRST PROMISE TO FAIL - DOES IT GAVE ME THE RIGHT TO OWN 450 € OVER YOU BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO DELIVER THE ACCOUNT I WISHED FOR???
My Answer: If promises aren't paper deals, why people needs to trust to your word? That clearly shows you are a liar and you admitted that by yourself

Sorry my man if you ask me to pay half of the money if you getting scammed, of course i won't buy anything. I have no reason to risk my 200 Euro as a middleman. You didn't accepted to take your own risk but you want me to pay half of your money if you lose it. It is ridicilious

Your Claims: JUST MAKE THE REFUND, DELETE THE THINGS YOU WROTE IN THE THREAD AND WE WILL BE ALL GOOD. OR KEEP THEM AND LOSE YOUR DIGNITY OR WHAT IS LEFT.
My Answer: Why do you think i want to be good with you? Why i have to make refund for you after you wasted my two months with lies and drama? I have a clear disclaimer and i have clear proof that you was playing shady about that deal. I have every right to hold that money without question. Also my comment under your topic is totally shows my experience and knowledge. I just warned people about your lies. I just exposed your fake claims and it is my right to warn people for make community more safer for everybody. Don't judge other people's dignity if you don't have it.

Your Claims:What is wrong with you? I had 2 times where i could not deliver an item. 1 Time because of an suprisingly callback another because he was banned for botting, of the user before him and the account was reported afterwards.
My Answer: Nobody cares also this isn't related with our dispute. I told and proved the reasons about why you didn't got anything. Also wasn't they unrecoverable accounts as you advertised? How did they callbacked? Why other one banned for botting? You must have pretty clean and safe sources.

Your Claims: They were fully refunded. I offered one i casn give him another, he was interested and said he will buy, he changed his opinion, i refunded him....i had a disclaimer aswell for no returns.
My Answer: I took that picture from one of your listing. Nice refund story my man keep it up

https://pasteboard.co/HL2RuEE.png

CreativeBasement · Oct 31, 2018

Again cut the crap Bera

You sold the hunter account, there is no reservation to begin with and it begs the question if it was reserved howcould have it been sold. And you promised to make a full refund after you sell it - did not happen. You promised it 2 weeks ago long after this whole hunter thing - did not happen. 1 week ago- did not happen.

"No refund. no guarantee" For Accounts that are sold and deliverd....what do i have? Nothung. Nuthing. Nithing. Nething. Nathing. Again complete made up

You claim things in your shop thread that arent true dear bera:

- You have no contract with them: they are not bound to anything, they can recover it everday
- You claim that you own them 100 %, while you dont own them you sell them for others
- You say you make a refund if something happens? Really? im in disbelieve here. someone loses his 1000Â€ account you will repay him? From my knowledge you have to be a very big seller with alot of money, do be able to provide such thing. I mean you cant even refund an buyer who didnt get an account from you Ha Ha!

The accounts i sell are actually from me a callback is impssible, they are created enirely withaout bank data and pp account as money source for the maximum safety. No conection to an former owner. Completly new. Great stuff.

Going further. Every seller promises things on this site often times are not true or not entirely, neither is the safety, what does their promise mean?

What should we do now: go from thread to thread and frame them? Man almost no one will be untouched. Even frame *** and playerauctions themself, as they promise protection that is actually not happening or not in that amount

Dude your getting washed away here slowely and smoothly.

And just stop with your so called experience. Dont call me ever again a scammer. This is no thing to joke with.

Refund me, delte the sh1t or sleep with the feedback. Seeing you like this giving me so so much attentuion after ignoring me 24/7, now reading me here 24/7 gives me so much relief.

BERAccounts.com · Oct 31, 2018

If you keep telling the same lie to yourself over and over again, it becomes your truth. This describes you perfectly.

Epic 1NPC · Nov 2, 2018

I didn't read anything past the first post and only skimmed that, you guys are writing way too much.

Feedback: R3alAcc0unts buys account for $450, claims it was never delivered, never refunded

Very simple.

1) bera336m please show the chat where you delivered the item and the buyer confirmed
2) R3alAcc0unts show proof of payment
3) Done

Please do not make huge posts. I will not read them.

If there's more to this, please write a small summary of the full issue.

BERAccounts.com · Nov 2, 2018

EpicNPC said:
I didn't read anything past the first post and only skimmed that, you guys are writing way too much.

Feedback: R3alAcc0unts buys account for $450, claims it was never delivered, never refunded

Very simple.

1) bera336m please show the chat where you delivered the item and the buyer confirmed
2) R3alAcc0unts show proof of payment
3) Done

Please do not make huge posts. I will not read them.

If there's more to this, please write a small summary of the full issue.

Short version added below.

BERAccounts.com · Nov 2, 2018

Okey this will be simplest and sharpest post of mine. ''There isn't any account sold for 450 Euro. There isn't any account needed to be delivered for 450 Euro.''

-450 Euro(Fees Not Included) arrived to my bank account at 10.09.2018
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HKQ8nWQ.png

-I prevent him to being scammed at 10.09.2018 (I was a middleman)

-He reserved my 850 Euro account at 11.09.2018 by his OWN WILLING
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HLlP3MR.png
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HLlPrSC.png

-He clearly says he wants my Hunter(850 Euro) at 12.09.2018 and says then let me pay 400 Euro More by his OWN WILLING
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HLlQfEV.png

-He is getting informed again at 12.09.2018 about reservation and he approves with his OWN WILLING
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLlQY7I.png

He didn't made second payment that he promised and informed for. There isn't any 400/450 Euro worth of deal.
Out deal's total value is ''850 Euro''
No second payment since 10.09.2018 by that person.

He tried to purchase 1.200 Euro worth of account by another person and ''he managed to send 600 Euro to him'' while telling to me how he can't pay because he can't even afford food.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HKphZMJ.png (25 September 2018)

Then he tried to purchase 800 Euro worth of account from one of my other customers. So he had money but he didn't paid to me in that 2 months period of time. I kept my account 2 months long for that person and i don't care if he can make second payment or not. Clearly can be seen he took that risk, he asked for reservation, he wanted to purchase and i don't have any responsibility to him if he didn't paid full amount in 2 months.

I have a clear disclaimer states ''If you are not sure that you can make second monthly payment, don't use it because there won't be any refund.''

Check post #1 aswell please. And his feedback's story doesn't match with proofs that i proved. This guy is the biggest loser i've ever seen. He still can manage to steal my time even after 2 months. I am assuming i showed undenyable amount of proofs about my claims in many posts.

Best Regards

CreativeBasement · Nov 3, 2018

This is no longer only about the item and the negative feedback, as bera has spamed my selling thread, this one and the feedback and accused me of selling fake Accounts, and claimes i make wrong promises as an act of vengence because of the bad feedback and to put weight on this dispute. He is abusing his popüularity and feedbacks here to bully me out of the forums.

Second. he has already confirmed that he was paid and so does the proofs state where he says that he will pay me back.

Third. He believes that if i tell him that i might buy a worse account for more money, after he failed to deliver the primary account the money was for, that it gives him the right to keep the money 100 % and not even get an alternate account. Absolute nonsense.

Forth: The hunter was all the Time active in his shops and not enabled as reserved, i told him during this period, i decided i dont want the account anymore, he said i have to wait until he sells it and i will be fully refunded. Did not happen, several weeks past where i let him keep the money as i feared if i am to mean he will just suck it up and asked him once again to give me the money. He said he will refund me. Did not happen. 1 week later he said he will refund me. Did not happen ( you can see it in the proofs) until he became very mean and neglected the fact that i have paid completly, even ignored me

An failed reservation doesnt give you the right to keep the money, more so the money was reserved for one you could not deliver as you had no power of the seller, you claimed you had beforei paid.

Several times after the hunter you promised a full refund, so you dont believe yourself that it is your's.

The hunter is complete BS. Youu asked me to pay a complete nonsense price for an worse account, i thought it through and refused.

IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ME THE DK THE MONEY WAS FOR SO HAVE I TO REFUSE THE HUNTER. YOU DONT OWN MORE RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE THE MONEY IS ON YOUR SIDE AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE ATLEAST AN SIMILAR ACCOUNT NOT ASK ME TO PAY MORE FOR A SHITTY ONE.

Above all that. There is no proof i would have been refunded 100 % before the hunter, as your other refund promises failed too. Neither have i a proof i would have gotten the hunter as your dk failed too.

1 thing we can only say for sure, that you very paid from me and i did not got anything...everything else is only a MAYBE. You dont have enough credibility here to vouch for anything you say.

BERAccounts.com · Nov 3, 2018

I won't read your stupid non sense messages anymore. I copy paste my latest message for admin.

Okey this will be simplest and sharpest post of mine. ''There isn't any account sold for 450 Euro. There isn't any account needed to be delivered for 450 Euro.''

-450 Euro(Fees Not Included) arrived to my bank account at 10.09.2018
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HKQ8nWQ.png

-I prevent him to being scammed at 10.09.2018 (I was a middleman)

-He reserved my 850 Euro account at 11.09.2018 by his OWN WILLING
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HLlP3MR.png
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HLlPrSC.png

-He clearly says he wants my Hunter(850 Euro) at 12.09.2018 and says then let me pay 400 Euro More by his OWN WILLING
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HLlQfEV.png

-He is getting informed again at 12.09.2018 about reservation and he approves with his OWN WILLING
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLlQY7I.png

He didn't made second payment that he promised and informed for. There isn't any 400/450 Euro worth of deal.
Out deal's total value is ''850 Euro''
No second payment since 10.09.2018 by that person.

He tried to purchase 1.200 Euro worth of account by another person and ''he managed to send 600 Euro to him'' while telling to me how he can't pay because he can't even afford food.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HKphZMJ.png (25 September 2018)

Then he tried to purchase 800 Euro worth of account from one of my other customers. So he had money but he didn't paid to me in that 2 months period of time. I kept my account 2 months long for that person and i don't care if he can make second payment or not. Clearly can be seen he took that risk, he asked for reservation, he wanted to purchase and i don't have any responsibility to him if he didn't paid full amount in 2 months.

I have a clear disclaimer states ''If you are not sure that you can make second monthly payment, don't use it because there won't be any refund.''

Check post #1 aswell please. And his feedback's story doesn't match with proofs that i proved. This guy is the biggest loser i've ever seen. He still can manage to steal my time even after 2 months. I am assuming i showed undenyable amount of proofs about my claims in many posts.

Best Regards

CreativeBasement · Nov 4, 2018

Your a blatant lier Bera. such a lier.

I have never promised anyone 1200 € to pay for his account, i told him i can sell for him the account for this price. Nothing more nothing less. Furthermore has he tried to rig me to pay via pp family for a much lower price than you state. i can make screenshots from the original talk if needed there is no such promise.

Thats an service i offer here.

As such, its up to me if i have the m,oney for sometjing and if i buy....you have no saying in this....your literally losing yorself here

The hunter is is out of subject here. Fact is i did not got anything so far. There were several refund promises, from you befoore, during him and after him...all failed, because i was no longer the priority

Note do not forget. You had the money, so i was passive in alot of circumstances as i feared i will not get anything if i dont go wiuth it

1. A verified bystander asked you during the posts here, why you keep the money for no particular rweason
2. A Mod asked you if you have delivered anything so far or refunded me - Not

So Bera thats 2 people already against you

2 weeks ago you promised me a refund after a deal is done - Yet again failed

Now lets have a look at this

Lets see what Bera has to say about me in reality:

"Lovely and hot Customer"
"Everything was done in a Blink of my eyes"
"Awesome Customer and friend"
"This guy is the best customer i have ever had"

And other feedbacks

Now compare it with this

Full of lies and wronga accusation to put weight on this dispute and make my reputation sink. Even saying i dont own ebay accounts

Saying i make wrrong claims about the accounts being from me and the safety

While he himself has no contracts with the owners, they can recover it everyday
Lost some accounts already 2 calllbacks
Often Times doesnt even get an ID
Promises money return, what is to be questioned
Doesnt own a paypal and is using paypals from other people

I made a circle around the warrior in the first screenshot i sold some days ago to an user with 4 feedbacks. Thats the one i offered here aswell

"Very thrustfully seller, fast deal"

Ohh dear Bera you are getting cornered here. you thought with all your pride and popularity here you could do and say whatever the heck you want, even demand the feedback to be delted

But look your falling apart with all the lies XDDDDDD!!!!!!

Calling someone out a Scammer with fake accounts and money from such acts is an serious infringm,ent.

CreativeBasement · Nov 4, 2018

Now lets talk about the made up lie i dont own my ebay accounts.

As everyone can see i am logged in in all of them,. There is a forth one aswell

Full of feedbacks of people who consider me an great and thrustworthy seller.

Oh wait wait wait, let me guess bera...i rented them just for this dispute XDDDDDD

Lets measure your 30 feedbacks with my what? Over 400? On a platform i sold 200 Accounts

CreativeBasement · Nov 4, 2018

Finale:

I am partner with the biggest german seller accountverkauf.com, he is considered world wide as one of the best and has unlike you real contracts. He sold over a period of 10 years Thousands of accounts

What does that mean? If i like i can all of my accounts have sold there just by asking. I boost Accounts for him and even sell some of his.

https://accountverkauf.com/

He sold in the past several accounts from my collection and the ones i create on my own for 200 % custom,er safety.
Not even checking them or questioning them for a second as he knows they are fully thrustworhy

Here is one account i offer in my collection here on this site, even using my own Layout.

https://accountverkauf.com/?accounts.html&klasse=7

https://accountverkauf.com/show-details.php

Calling me aus falsely a scammer is like calling mother thresa the devil, dear bera.

Your growing desperate. See unlike you i dont need this site in particular, but you called yourself out a god here to me didnt you? Untouchable! Mods under your control or similar?! Guess 30 feedbacks make some people go drunk.

What Now dear bera. What do you invent now?!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand the fact you were 2 times suspended from playerauctions because you lured the customers to pay outside. Ohohohohoho......as are you right now? As i recall you have to pay a bill on playerauction (300 dollar) to get unlocked?

You werent following the disclaimer, you are always so worried about! Because of greed i guess. Is that what lead to this feedback of mine? guess so.

BERAccounts.com · Nov 4, 2018

Fake as duck. Didn't even read just copy pasteing for admin again... On this Ebay part, none of them can belongs to you like i claimed. And no you don't work with anyone. Personally i can show +100 pictures that you told me all of your accounts banned. Even i gave you a verification phone for create a new Ebay because you are blacklisted on Ebay because of doing shady business.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLBozHn.png

Also CM who did last post, completely different person so he has no idea what is going on. He will understand soon aswell.

Okey this will be simplest and sharpest post of mine. ''There isn't any account sold for 450 Euro. There isn't any account needed to be delivered for 450 Euro.''

-450 Euro(Fees Not Included) arrived to my bank account at 10.09.2018
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HKQ8nWQ.png

-I prevent him to being scammed at 10.09.2018 (I was a middleman)

-He reserved my 850 Euro account at 11.09.2018 by his OWN WILLING
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HLlP3MR.png
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HLlPrSC.png

-He clearly says he wants my Hunter(850 Euro) at 12.09.2018 and says then let me pay 400 Euro More by his OWN WILLING
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HLlQfEV.png

-He is getting informed again at 12.09.2018 about reservation and he approves with his OWN WILLING
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLlQY7I.png

He didn't made second payment that he promised and informed for. There isn't any 400/450 Euro worth of deal.
Out deal's total value is ''850 Euro''
No second payment since 10.09.2018 by that person.

He tried to purchase 1.200 Euro worth of account by another person and ''he managed to send 600 Euro to him'' while telling to me how he can't pay because he can't even afford food.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HKphZMJ.png (25 September 2018)

Then he tried to purchase 800 Euro worth of account from one of my other customers. So he had money but he didn't paid to me in that 2 months period of time. I kept my account 2 months long for that person and i don't care if he can make second payment or not. Clearly can be seen he took that risk, he asked for reservation, he wanted to purchase and i don't have any responsibility to him if he didn't paid full amount in 2 months.

I have a clear disclaimer states ''If you are not sure that you can make second monthly payment, don't use it because there won't be any refund.''

Check post #1 aswell please. And his feedback's story doesn't match with proofs that i proved. This guy is the biggest loser i've ever seen. He still can manage to steal my time even after 2 months. I am assuming i showed undenyable amount of proofs about my claims in many posts.

Best Regards

CreativeBasement · Nov 4, 2018

Again Fake?! Lol, lol

Hear hear, from someone with 30 feedbacks on a forums site with 2 of them bad feedbacks, 1 changed to a neutral one

Saved me frome being scammed?

Begs the question why you didnt save me before i paid, and why i am scammed from you right now

Hunter, reserved bla

The Hunter is in the past. Long in the past. So is the dk.

a failed reservation does give me the right to keep the money and not even owe my greatest customer shop credit to buy an alternate

Absolutely wrong, and you made the so called reservations (the word you really really like) to refund me...did not happen!!!! Last one,w as last week.

You failed to deliver the main reservation ( again you word), after this everything is completly up to me and you owe me. i dont own you to shoot 400 more for a worse one even if promise. Your promises vere the worse ones. Several times i said i dont want him anymore, its to much

Vote for close. This is leading into nothingness and just escaleted into a room of lies and made up stuff. When i did the bad feedback i already gave up on my money and was tired to be promised being refunded times and times again

Keep the money Bera, i will keep the feedback. I want everyone to know what experience i have made with you so they are warned.

I wish you the very best bera for what is to come. I don't hate on you as much you do on me. I wish it would have ended differently.

BERAccounts.com · Nov 4, 2018

Stop trying to block this message.

Fake as duck. Didn't even read just copy pasteing for admin again... On this Ebay part, none of them can belongs to you like i claimed. And no you don't work with anyone. Personally i can show +100 pictures that you told me all of your accounts banned. Even i gave you a verification phone for create a new Ebay because you are blacklisted on Ebay because of doing shady business.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLBozHn.png

Also CM who did last post, completely different person so he has no idea what is going on. He will understand soon aswell.

Okey this will be simplest and sharpest post of mine. ''There isn't any account sold for 450 Euro. There isn't any account needed to be delivered for 450 Euro.''

-450 Euro(Fees Not Included) arrived to my bank account at 10.09.2018
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HKQ8nWQ.png

-I prevent him to being scammed at 10.09.2018 (I was a middleman)

-He reserved my 850 Euro account at 11.09.2018 by his OWN WILLING
SS1: https://pasteboard.co/HLlP3MR.png
SS2: https://pasteboard.co/HLlPrSC.png

-He clearly says he wants my Hunter(850 Euro) at 12.09.2018 and says then let me pay 400 Euro More by his OWN WILLING
SS:https://pasteboard.co/HLlQfEV.png

-He is getting informed again at 12.09.2018 about reservation and he approves with his OWN WILLING
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HLlQY7I.png

He didn't made second payment that he promised and informed for. There isn't any 400/450 Euro worth of deal.
Out deal's total value is ''850 Euro''
No second payment since 10.09.2018 by that person.

He tried to purchase 1.200 Euro worth of account by another person and ''he managed to send 600 Euro to him'' while telling to me how he can't pay because he can't even afford food.
SS: https://pasteboard.co/HKphZMJ.png (25 September 2018)

Then he tried to purchase 800 Euro worth of account from one of my other customers. So he had money but he didn't paid to me in that 2 months period of time. I kept my account 2 months long for that person and i don't care if he can make second payment or not. Clearly can be seen he took that risk, he asked for reservation, he wanted to purchase and i don't have any responsibility to him if he didn't paid full amount in 2 months.

I have a clear disclaimer states ''If you are not sure that you can make second monthly payment, don't use it because there won't be any refund.''

Check post #1 aswell please. And his feedback's story doesn't match with proofs that i proved. This guy is the biggest loser i've ever seen. He still can manage to steal my time even after 2 months. I am assuming i showed undenyable amount of proofs about my claims in many posts.

Best Regards

Epic 1NPC · Nov 4, 2018

Once I have 10 hours to review this info, I'll take a look. Check back in a few weeks.

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