Hey mmobay, just wanted to let people know that xane (mmobay) username scammed me.
It was just a simple paypal open/close dispute, seemed semi legit although i was kinda suspicious the whole way through.
I don't really care considering it was only $25, it was stupid of me to trust him but i just thought i'd let the rest of the community know.
Information
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Date that scamming took place: 23rd May 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: [email protected] / [email protected] (paypal email)
Your Instant Messenger ID: bawring
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: xane
Other information: simple paypal open/close dispute method
Scam Information
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What was scammed?: $25
Link of trade thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any
Approximate value of scammed property: $25
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: Paypal
Other details / notes:
Proof
Proof You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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It was just a simple paypal open/close dispute, seemed semi legit although i was kinda suspicious the whole way through.
I don't really care considering it was only $25, it was stupid of me to trust him but i just thought i'd let the rest of the community know.
Information
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Date that scamming took place: 23rd May 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: [email protected] / [email protected] (paypal email)
Your Instant Messenger ID: bawring
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: xane
Other information: simple paypal open/close dispute method
Scam Information
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What was scammed?: $25
Link of trade thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any
Approximate value of scammed property: $25
Was a middleman used?: No
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: Paypal
Other details / notes:
Proof
Proof You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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Chat Logs: Use
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Other proof:
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Sunday, 23 May 2010
[email][email protected][/email] (5:00:01 PM): Hey
[email][email protected][/email] (5:00:03 PM): are you there?
bawring (5:00:07 PM): yup
[email][email protected][/email] (5:00:22 PM): You're still looking for wow account?
bawring (5:00:31 PM): yeah
[email][email protected][/email] (5:01:20 PM): [url=http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Chromaggus&cn=Assasin]The World of Warcraft Armory - Assasin @ Chromaggus - Profile[/url]
[email][email protected][/email] (5:01:26 PM): 80 lvl rogue ,all expanions
[email][email protected][/email] (5:01:33 PM): always paid with gamecards so you can use credit card.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:01:38 PM): i can sell it very cheap
[email][email protected][/email] (5:01:41 PM): like 50-60$
bawring (5:02:16 PM): hmm
bawring (5:02:19 PM): how come you're selling?
bawring (5:02:44 PM): is it just an old characteR?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:02:46 PM): Well , i have another account which im playing on
[email][email protected][/email] (5:02:48 PM): old char yea
[email][email protected][/email] (5:02:54 PM): i rerolled to pala
bawring (5:02:56 PM): ah yeah
bawring (5:03:02 PM): weird i used to play on chromaggus
bawring (5:03:11 PM): do you have any rep?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:26 PM): Well , im kinda new to this site
bawring (5:03:39 PM): are you OO of the account?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:41 PM): yup
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:45 PM): never sold any account to be honest
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:49 PM): but my friend explained me how it works so
bawring (5:03:53 PM): ah okay
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:53 PM): i wont get scammed
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:53 PM): i think
[email][email protected][/email] (5:03:54 PM): hehe
bawring (5:03:55 PM): lol
bawring (5:04:13 PM): you'll be using paypal right?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:04:31 PM): Well , paypal is in option yes , but only via open/close dispute method.
bawring (5:04:44 PM): hm
bawring (5:04:48 PM): where do you live?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:00 PM): atm Poland
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:11 PM): my mother is in Poland and my father is in USA
bawring (5:05:26 PM): lol, so you move between?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:32 PM): well , working in poland
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:39 PM): and "living" in USA
bawring (5:05:43 PM): lol
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:51 PM): its kinda weird in my situation but nevermind
[email][email protected][/email] (5:05:57 PM): we're selling account here
bawring (5:06:24 PM): yeah, was just wondering to see whether we could phone each other
[email][email protected][/email] (5:06:41 PM): well , atm i am in Poland so kinda not
[email][email protected][/email] (5:06:47 PM): except you want to pay huge bill
bawring (5:06:50 PM): i live in australia anyway
bawring (5:07:05 PM): so it was always going to be a huge bill haha
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:12 PM): heh yea
bawring (5:07:17 PM): do you have ID for the account?
bawring (5:07:24 PM): or can you get it?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:29 PM): yup i have prepared it.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:40 PM): i have all info on my computer including scan of cd-keys
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:43 PM): and ID card.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:49 PM): driver license
[email][email protected][/email] (5:07:54 PM): but it also works.
bawring (5:08:08 PM): well
bawring (5:08:11 PM): i'm interested
bawring (5:08:13 PM): lol
[email][email protected][/email] (5:08:29 PM): why "lol" ?
bawring (5:08:40 PM): not sure
bawring (5:08:43 PM): lighten the mood maybe
[email][email protected][/email] (5:08:53 PM): heh ok.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:08:55 PM): so lets do this ?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:08:57 PM): i have my paypal ready.
bawring (5:09:04 PM): would you take $50 USD?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:09:08 PM): yea sure.
bawring (5:09:16 PM): can i log into the account?
bawring (5:09:23 PM): to verfiy the character is there and such
[email][email protected][/email] (5:09:36 PM): Well
[email][email protected][/email] (5:09:47 PM): that would be kinda weird dont you think ?
bawring (5:09:47 PM): there's not much i can do, scam wise
[email][email protected][/email] (5:09:53 PM): cause i dont have gametime there
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:01 PM): and i have blizzard authenticator.
bawring (5:10:01 PM): i mean just login to the website
bawring (5:10:13 PM): oh, how does that work? the blizzard authenticator
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:15 PM): i need to put it off but im willing to do this after i have received my payment
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:23 PM): i have blizzard authenticator on my phone
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:39 PM): and each time i log in , it shows me code which i need to put in also with password.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:50 PM): but i can put it off so you can put your own authenticator.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:10:52 PM): on account
bawring (5:11:21 PM): hmm
bawring (5:11:33 PM): so i'm unable to login?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:11:42 PM): Well , not like i dont want to
[email][email protected][/email] (5:11:45 PM): its just that my friend explained me
[email][email protected][/email] (5:11:53 PM): if i put off blizzard authenticator and lets say you "try" to scam me or something
[email][email protected][/email] (5:11:57 PM): and i put it on again
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:01 PM): it will be weird for blizzard
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:05 PM): and they can put red flag on my acc.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:16 PM): that means if someone with different ip address logs in they will check him
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:21 PM): and eventually ban for account selling
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:23 PM): if you know what i mean
[email][email protected][/email] (5:12:23 PM):
bawring (5:12:39 PM): yeah i getcha
[email][email protected][/email] (5:13:20 PM): [email][email protected][/email] - that's my paypal address
[email][email protected][/email] (5:13:30 PM): that's my real email , xane is just my alias for wow selling
[email][email protected][/email] (5:13:53 PM): not like i want some wow or gold spamming on my mailbox ^^
bawring (5:14:06 PM): yeah, had that with one of my old email addresses haha
[email][email protected][/email] (5:14:37 PM): or people who are claiming to be my uncle and having few millions to give me if i pay them some money to transfer it...
[email][email protected][/email] (5:14:48 PM): that's kinda sad but i dunno who fails for that still
bawring (5:14:51 PM): sounds legit, i think you should do it
[email][email protected][/email] (5:14:55 PM): XD
[email][email protected][/email] (5:14:58 PM): yea
bawring (5:15:05 PM): haha
bawring (5:15:32 PM): okay so what order do you want to do things in?
bawring (5:16:13 PM): i'll pay you, give me all info, take off authen, then i'll file a dispute/close it and we can change emails?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:16:31 PM): well , after i give you all info you can just run away
[email][email protected][/email] (5:16:34 PM): and use that account to scam on.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:16:49 PM): we can do fifty/fifty if you feel unsure about me.
bawring (5:17:23 PM): oh, im thinking of secret question
bawring (5:17:36 PM): we can do that and email after i dispute it?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:17:44 PM): what about
[email][email protected][/email] (5:17:59 PM): i`ll give you ID scan , not driver license
[email][email protected][/email] (5:18:09 PM): then you pay me and open/dispute
[email][email protected][/email] (5:18:10 PM): and rest info ?
bawring (5:18:34 PM): it's not that i don't trust you, i just can't verfiy that the names on the accout or anything
bawring (5:18:36 PM): if you get what i mean
[email][email protected][/email] (5:18:51 PM): i getta but i will not put off authenticator before i have money
[email][email protected][/email] (5:19:01 PM): because if it happens to you being scammer i am in *** to sell that account again.
bawring (5:19:30 PM): can you quickly take a screen shot of the page with your name and account there?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:19:38 PM): well , im not stupid mate
[email][email protected][/email] (5:19:49 PM): you can retrieve account with login and ID scan
[email][email protected][/email] (5:20:22 PM): give me a sec
bawring (5:20:24 PM): okay
bawring (5:20:34 PM): i dont really mind the order
bawring (5:21:08 PM): i just kinda wanted to see the account, without finalising everything, but i get how it ****s you over with the authenticator
[email][email protected][/email] (5:22:38 PM): [url]http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8052/dsc00708gc.jpg[/url]
bawring (5:22:59 PM): oh i didn't want the id
bawring (5:23:14 PM): i meant screenshot of the wow account on the blizzard page
[email][email protected][/email] (5:23:27 PM): omg... i dont have time for this
[email][email protected][/email] (5:23:30 PM): im leaving for work
[email][email protected][/email] (5:23:43 PM): you have my id already , isnt that enough?
bawring (5:23:46 PM): i dont mean to be like this..
bawring (5:23:49 PM): it's just that could be anyone
[email][email protected][/email] (5:23:53 PM): any scammer would give you his ID scan?
bawring (5:23:58 PM): theres nothing linking that to this account
bawring (5:24:09 PM): and you have no rep, on a new account
[email][email protected][/email] (5:24:15 PM): neither do you.
bawring (5:24:28 PM): i do
bawring (5:24:40 PM): anyway
[email][email protected][/email] (5:24:40 PM): does it matter? anyone could turn out to be scammer.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:24:46 PM): we can do fifty fifty like i said
bawring (5:24:46 PM): when will you be back from work?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:25:01 PM): 25$ open/close dispute , some info , next 25$ open/close dispute and rest info.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:25:04 PM): that would be fairest.
bawring (5:25:38 PM): all i want is to login the the account, user name and pass to make sure the character is there and that your last name matches your paypal
bawring (5:25:48 PM): the authen makes this really hard thuogh
bawring (5:26:11 PM): i can see from your point it will suck, but from my point of view having the information but not being able to verify it is usless
[email][email protected][/email] (5:26:39 PM): well , i wont put off blizzard authenticator like i said
[email][email protected][/email] (5:26:45 PM): i have like 15 mins more. so lets do this now
[email][email protected][/email] (5:26:54 PM): i would like to do some other things later than being on AIM tbh.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:27:10 PM): fifty/fifty is the most fair method we can do here i guess.
bawring (5:27:25 PM): what information do i recieve after i pay $25
[email][email protected][/email] (5:27:55 PM): lets say i will put off blizzard authenticsator and i`ll give you login/password and email change
[email][email protected][/email] (5:28:04 PM): i`ll risk and trust you on not putting authenticator on
[email][email protected][/email] (5:28:08 PM): and run away
bawring (5:28:38 PM): nah sorry, i'm not going to commit any money without being able to at least see the account
bawring (5:28:56 PM): is the only reason you wont do it, so that blizzard checks the ip's?
bawring (5:29:00 PM): i can use a proxy to login
[email][email protected][/email] (5:29:05 PM): proxy wont do a ****
bawring (5:29:25 PM): how about
bawring (5:29:36 PM): i login, you recieve the authen code
bawring (5:29:42 PM): tell me it i'll use it to login
bawring (5:29:50 PM): you can change the password
bawring (5:29:53 PM): before hand aswell
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:06 PM): Omg i think you're scamer , you just want to log in and crash account...
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:09 PM): dont be like that
bawring (5:30:17 PM): you realise
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:23 PM): i will not any account info or anything what would risk my account before i have at least 50% of money.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:24 PM): that's it
bawring (5:30:32 PM): it's impossible for me to do ANYTHING with only a user name and password
bawring (5:30:40 PM): it's not even like i can delete your characters as there is not game time on the account
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:53 PM): I dont give a **** what you can do and what i can do.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:30:56 PM): i just will not.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:31:00 PM): for security purposes.
bawring (5:31:19 PM): can't you see the security purposes from my point of view?
bawring (5:31:28 PM): i'm paying $50 and could essentially recieve nothing
[email][email protected][/email] (5:31:35 PM): You can call paypal and get money back.
bawring (5:31:49 PM): you can call blizzard and get the account back aswell
[email][email protected][/email] (5:31:52 PM): and it will take you few mins
[email][email protected][/email] (5:31:59 PM): and for blizzard it will take 2 weeks
[email][email protected][/email] (5:32:17 PM): i have recovered my paladin once
[email][email protected][/email] (5:32:21 PM): and it took them 3 weeks.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:32:47 PM): I have 10 min more before leaving so ?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:32:53 PM): now or never.
bawring (5:33:00 PM): we can't do it another day?
bawring (5:33:08 PM): i don't understand why it's not or never
[email][email protected][/email] (5:33:10 PM): it wont matter what day we do it , i wont change my decision.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:33:21 PM): i will not give any info before having at least 50% of money.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:33:28 PM): you can be Markeedragon itself.
[email][email protected][/email] (5:33:34 PM): i dont trust anybody on internet sorry.
bawring (5:33:40 PM): will you let me login to the account once i have given you $25?
[email][email protected][/email] (5:33:45 PM): Yes.
bawring (5:34:36 PM): alright
bawring (5:35:16 PM): 25$ to [email][email protected][/email]
[email][email protected][/email] (5:35:19 PM): yes.
bawring (5:35:43 PM): will you be taking off the authen or giving me the code it sends you to login?
bawring (5:35:47 PM): i dont mind how
[email][email protected][/email] (5:35:53 PM): i will take off authenticator
bawring (5:35:55 PM): i'd just like to login
[email][email protected][/email] (5:35:58 PM): and trust you on not putting it on again
bawring (5:36:05 PM): okay
bawring (5:37:34 PM): okay should be sent
[email][email protected][/email] (5:38:10 PM): Okey i see it
[email][email protected][/email] (5:38:14 PM): now open/close dispute
[email][email protected][/email] (5:40:28 PM): its closed i see now
[email][email protected][/email] (5:40:33 PM): now open
bawring (5:40:52 PM): it's closed
bawring (5:41:03 PM): StatusThis dispute is closed.
Messages
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23/05/2010 18:11 AEST
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PayPal Note: Buyer confirmed that buyer and seller reached an amicable resolution on this Dispute and buyer closed the Dispute.
[email][email protected][/email] signed off at 5:41:30 PM
bawring (5:49:03 PM): ***
[email][email protected][/email] (5:49:09 PM):
[email][email protected][/email] (5:49:12 PM): thanks for teh money.
bawring (5:49:39 PM): can ihave $10 back so i can buy food for my children this week
[email][email protected][/email] (5:49:48 PM): yea for sure
[email][email protected][/email] (5:49:49 PM):
[email][email protected][/email] (5:49:59 PM): you have 25$ which you was supposed to give me.
bawring (5:50:15 PM): dont ahve to be so smug about it
[email][email protected][/email] (5:50:16 PM): and you're not father for sure , you wouldnt be buying some wow account if you hadnt food
[email][email protected][/email] (5:50:26 PM): im not stupid
[email][email protected][/email] (5:50:29 PM): i`ll take care of your money
[email][email protected][/email] (5:50:29 PM):
bawring (5:50:31 PM): im the mother
[email][email protected][/email] (5:52:20 PM): yea and you're buying wow acc if you dont have food for children for sure
[email][email protected][/email] (5:52:20 PM):
[email][email protected][/email] (5:52:22 PM): im not stupid
bawring (5:52:41 PM): i am obviously considering i gave you money
bawring (5:52:44 PM): for no reason
bawring (5:54:57 PM): have you scammed many other people
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:00 PM): ofc
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:04 PM): im living for scamming
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:04 PM): ;d
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:06 PM): i just wasnt active
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:09 PM): for few months
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:14 PM): but i scammed alot money via WU and bank2bank
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:19 PM): like 2-3k
[email][email protected][/email] (5:55:20 PM): $
[email][email protected][/email] signed off at 5:55:45 PM
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes searched all the emails/names given too me
Have you traded with this person before?: No
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?: Two, many more on Markee
He had used http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8052/dsc00708gc.jpg to try and prove he was legit, a mod can take this down if i'm not allowed to post this here
