Wunderkind scam of 755$

[cal1nn]

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DISPUTE Information
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Link to thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/🛡️-...ce-paypal-f-f-skrill-for-your-crypto.2749695/
Approximate value of item/service: $755 USD
Date the problem began:22.07.2024
Show proof of payment (screenshot):

Describe the problem: I did send him 755$ via crypto in exchange for paypal and he said it would take 24 hours. its been 2 days and he still did not send me the money. we did not use trade guardian but I have the conversation on Epicnpc chat that can not be deleted and proves he claimed the crypto but did not pay me back. the money is for my sick grandma, I sold many stuff from my house to get that and I really want this to get solved. I don't care we did not use a middleman, the chat that can not be deleted shows it blatantly that it is a scam or a misunderstanding on his hehalf, eitherway I want a solution to this problem. at this moment I am at the hospital where i needed that money but I got it from somewhere else, so I will be posting the conversation once I get home



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[LowX]

I'm in the same situation I sent him 100$ in crypto (07/20/2024) and still didn't receive the money.

 

[cal1nn]

Please don't close this because we didnt use trade guardian, this way you just help him screw more people considering we have proof from your own chat that can't be deleted. all we want is to get our money back not gifts

 

[cal1nn]

Or at least stop him from continuing this scam

 

[cal1nn]

here is the proof, ignore my threats because i am frustrated. he is online avoiding my messages

 

[cal1nn]

proof of payment again if his words arent enough

 

[Angel]

@EpicNPC

 

[Ezger]

he contacted me in epicnpc chat last night to exchange my Paypal for his crypto, i pay and i wait for his crypto stock , should take 2 hours he said
he wanted me to trade so bad, he kept asking again and again
but i trusted him because he is a Mod

after i submitted the payment , he didnt reply since last night
520€ , all my savings
god help us with this situation, hope he is really waiting for stock and not just taking a lot of money from different people to make a good profitable scam and leave epicnpc
in hope

 

[Angel]

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[EpicNPC]

Please don't close this because we didnt use trade guardian, this way you just help him screw more people considering we have proof from your own chat that can't be deleted. all we want is to get our money back not gifts

I was able to confirm via your chat messages.

@Wunderkind has been removed as a mod and a warning added until these issues are resolved.

Ban in 24 hrs if Wunderkind does not reply to these accusations.

 

[cal1nn]

man i am with you. as you can see in my pics, i am 1hr away from him because I live in romania and he is from greek. if i don't have my money and my grandma dies because i can't afford meds for another 2 weeks till i get paid because i used all my money from selling items irl, i dont care what it takes I am hiring a private investigator to dig his info find his location and I will make him pay even if I rot in jail

 

[cal1nn]

this idiot could make a lot more by being legit with his reputation i don't understand how can you be this retarded

 

[Ezger]

he contacted me in epicnpc chat last night to exchange my Paypal for his crypto, i pay and i wait for his crypto stock , should take 2 hours he said
he wanted me to trade so bad, he kept asking again and again
but i trusted him because he is a Mod

after i submitted the payment , he didnt reply since last night
520€ , all my savings
god help us with this situation, hope he is really waiting for stock and not just taking a lot of money from different people to make a good profitable scam and leave epicnpc
in hope

https://imgur.com/a/piRNsSz

1- he approach people and insist
2- wierd trade process ( am waiting for stock )
3- he contacted many people to get a lot of money at once
4- not replying for hours while online
5- not even replying to this thread , if he was legit or if he was waiting for stock he would have asked for time

this is 100% scam, god help

 

[cal1nn]

yeah he is a scumbag with 0 morals and remorses

 

[cal1nn]

he wont last long, it needs only 1 bold dude who works hard for his money to get scammed and its over. when i have his adress i will send you pics from his house

 

[cal1nn]

@Wunderkind don't sleep i am 1 hours away from you bro, i hope you got a perfect plan before screwing people online

 

[cal1nn]

your last chance for redemption is to say sorry and give it all back which is not a lose for you you dirty thief

 

[cal1nn]

@BlakeMistHand ive seen that you got scammed too. please tell your story here

 

[Ezger]

that was my rent and internet payment
idk hwo to get it done now, kicked out of the house
this is bad

 

[cal1nn]

@EpicNPC can you make his id public since he scammed of thousands of dollars?

 

[BlakeMistHand]

@BlakeMistHand ive seen that you got scammed too. please tell your story here

Correct. I got scammed last night around the same time you did. I've had successful transactions with Wunderkind off-site in the past. As usual, I sent him a Friends & Family payment on PayPal for $550. After receiving the payment, he told me he could send my login information in 3 hours.

Four hours passed, and I messaged him with no response. I decided to go to bed. This morning, I messaged him again, but still no reply. I believe he is exit scamming people. Here are the screenshots from our conversation last night.

 

[cal1nn]

@EpicNPC what do you suggest us to do? we are many people and together we for sure can do something relevant to help our case

 

[EpicNPC]

Ban in 24 hrs if Wunderkind does not reply to these accusations.

 

[cal1nn]

that does not answer my question. I was asking about an idea such as going to the police etc, therefore, is there another similar case so I can study it? I would need his id to do that and since he is verified you have that

 

[Ezger]

dont know if we can get all together like 5-6 people and contact Paypal with the same Report ( using our real ID )
perhaps Epicnpc staff can provide us with his name , id , location , anything to Help Paypal be convinced

that way we might get a chance

 

[cal1nn]

in your case yes, in mine where i sent him crypto i can do nothing about it

 

[punklordementality]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

@Wunderkind Scammed out of $1000 for the SAME "2008 wizard101 account featuring the valor sword frontier dragon and more" BlakeMistHand was also scammed for yesterday at 11am PST via discord. I have screenshot proof of this! DO NOT TRADE WITH HIM

 

[punklordementality]

After I checked all the information multiple times I have realized the email that @Wunderkind gave me to send the money belongs to @kimuwara, another crypto trader that has done a trade with him today giving 5 stars. I would like to hear what @kimuwara has to say about it because from my perspective they are working together

 

[Ascendance_]

Hello, I got something to add. Apparently this guy used me for his little exit business, he approached me wanting to exchange PayPal for my Crypto.
But he wasnt sending from his PayPal, the person that sent was Ezger. Now when I checked dispute here after one guy that he scammed sent me, and saw Ezger uploading screenshots. He casually gave him my PayPal email lol
I sent crypto to Wunderking already, so its too late now, anyway u can check screenshots here. Maybe it will help somehow, no doubt its an exit scam

https://imgur.com/a/fjok3PU

 

[cal1nn]

yeah and he gave punk @kimuwara 's paypal

 

[recneps321]

I was also scammed on the same account but for around 8k in eth

 

[recneps321]

I have screenshot proof for this. If helpful

 

[cal1nn]

that way if you or kimuwara wanted to scam, he would have lost nothing because he wasnt the one to send. smart but he deserves to be executed

 

[recneps321]

The wierd thing is he is using a different PayPal then he used with me a couple months ago

 

[cal1nn]

@EpicNPC you have to show is his email and id to move it to the police

 

[cal1nn]

at this point its a class action and he deserves 20 years in prison

 

[recneps321]

What the total at this point has to be over 10k now.

 

[recneps321]

If you guys are banning Wunderkind you might want to keep a watch on his alt Acronis too.

 

[cal1nn]

i was about to say that

 

[Ezger]

@EpicNPC CM @Angel
we all got in grp chat and investigated this situation, we can provide whatever necessary

so basically what he did is asking clients to send Paypal to other Traders and he gets Crypto from the traders
so at his end he gets crypto which is hard to refund , and put other traders in the middle.

so he asked me to send the 520€ Paypal in 23/07 at 11:20 CET to [email protected] which belongs to @Ascendance_
he asked @punklordementality to send 999.98 paypal in 23/07 at 11:02am PST to [email protected] which belongs to @kimuwara

and he got Crypto from both of them.

and asked @cal1nn for 755$ crypto , @BlakeMistHand €488.95 EUR crypto in 7/23/2024 at 8:24pm PT , @recneps321 8000 usdt

the question is ?
1- who is getting refund and how is it done if there is !
2- are we getting his ID, location , picture or any other details to help us build our case ? to Paypal or the Police ?

 

[Ezger]

@Acronis multiple account of the Scammer

 

[kimuwara]

Hi all, I change cryptocurrency for a long time, this time I was approached by Wunderkind, he sends Paypal (there were two transactions, 135 usd, 999 usd) I pay him on cryptocurrency. In this way I change absolutely with every client who has enough feedback, and especially with moderators. If he scammed you, I am very sorry, I hope he will come to his senses and return all funds. In turn, I, in turn, relieve myself of responsibility because you conducted the transaction with him, not with me. Thinking logically you will realize that so you can frame absolutely any exchanger. Transaction Hash:



TXID: 36zc3YVF3Y4m4RcGJov3M9jsQPvrgAcJh4Yiw9j7EgQYZmLDkHp6mZKrhH15RVG51pgTdZhNP2SPH6NKEtqspUsu

(999 exchange for 899 usdc)



TXID: 0x36fe59dd06699af2c77aa9147c64ee09cc77f7f5b6d5929b7bd07a3d7d7f4380

(141.97 for 199)

 

[kimuwara]

If there is a need - I can make a screen recording of a chat with him

 

[recneps321]

Hi all, I change cryptocurrency for a long time, this time I was approached by Wunderkind, he sends Paypal (there were two transactions, 135 usd, 999 usd) I pay him on cryptocurrency. In this way I change absolutely with every client who has enough feedback, and especially with moderators. If he scammed you, I am very sorry, I hope he will come to his senses and return all funds. In turn, I, in turn, relieve myself of responsibility because you conducted the transaction with him, not with me. Thinking logically you will realize that so you can frame absolutely any exchanger. Transaction Hash:



TXID: 36zc3YVF3Y4m4RcGJov3M9jsQPvrgAcJh4Yiw9j7EgQYZmLDkHp6mZKrhH15RVG51pgTdZhNP2SPH6NKEtqspUsu

(999 exchange for 899 usdc)



TXID: 0x36fe59dd06699af2c77aa9147c64ee09cc77f7f5b6d5929b7bd07a3d7d7f4380

(141.97 for 199)

What paypal did he use for the transaction?

 

[Ezger]

can we report a Crypto transaction ?
we have the transaction id, we have the details, Epicnpc for sure have his id, face pic, IRL details

he scammed people for almost 11k , perhaps more

we need to get him by any means we can, i believe we have so much details and Epicnpc can escalade this

 

[EpicBoost]

this is why you cant give moderator to just anyone , otherwise this will happen @EpicNPC
seems pretty obvious this was a big exit scam , unfortunate for everyone affected

 

[kimuwara]

What paypal did he use for the transaction?

I don't know, it doesn't say

 

[punklordementality]

I don't know, it doesn't say

that's literally me and my personal paypal account/email

 

[BlakeMistHand]

this is why you cant give moderator to just anyone , otherwise this will happen @EpicNPC

You tell 'em @EpicBoost

 

[Ezger]

this is why you cant give moderator to just anyone , otherwise this will happen @EpicNPC

i swear i was about to refuse the trade cause that amount is my rent and food for next 2 weeks,
he sounded smooth and insisted, i suspected it i went back and forth thinking about it , but i went to Stree if this Wunderkind is legit, Stree confirmed his Mod rank is not fake
i went for the trade , now i dont have living for next week

i mean, my money went to Ascendance
somebody else's money went to Kiwuwara and we cant do anything about it