Trade guardian and MM

germr · Aug 4, 2022

I've been thinking about buying an epic7 account for a decent price. I will most likely be using a MM I know the fees regarding that service.

My question is since the MM is gonna be on hold of the acc and funds. What kind of request can you make to the MM?

Can I ask him to let's say I buy an account with a dummy Gmail but would like for the MM to change the password that was given to him by the seller before anything is finalized and to only be given to me once everything is done. Is that a reasonable request or is that not something they can do?

There are a lot of sellers with little to no rep, I know people suggest buying from sellers with a lot of rep but a lot of times they don't have what I'm looking for, or its just out of my budget. Would it be unreasonable to try and make the payment with Paypal goods and services(with his approval ofc) because of his little to no reputation?

Or is asking to pay with Goods and services frowned upon because scammers tend to charge back later after the transaction is done?

Alphatester · Aug 4, 2022

germr said:
I've been thinking about buying an epic7 account for a decent price. I will most likely be using a MM I know the fees regarding that service.

My question is since the MM is gonna be on hold of the acc and funds. What kind of request can you make to the MM?

Can I ask him to let's say I buy an account with a dummy Gmail but would like for the MM to change the password that was given to him by the seller before anything is finalized and to only be given to me once everything is done. Is that a reasonable request or is that not something they can do?

There are a lot of sellers with little to no rep, I know people suggest buying from sellers with a lot of rep but a lot of times they don't have what I'm looking for, or its just out of my budget. Would it be unreasonable to try and make the payment with Paypal goods and services(with his approval ofc) because of his little to no reputation?

Or is asking to pay with Goods and services frowned upon because scammers tend to charge back later after the transaction is done?

Hey okay let me explain it real fast

1- you or the seller pay fees
2- Middleman holds the ACCOUNT AND NOT THE FUNDS, then he ask you whether you have any special requests regarding the account or not, here you can state what you want from him, and no he won't set your email he will set his own one u can request a dummy email to be set but it must be made by the middleman
3- middleman secure account
4-you pay the seller
5- MM hands you the account

germr · Aug 4, 2022

Alphatester said:
Hey okay let me explain it real fast

1- you or the seller pay fees
2- Middleman holds the ACCOUNT AND NOT THE FUNDS, then he ask you whether you have any special requests regarding the account or not, here you can state what you want from him, and no he won't set your email he will set his own one u can request a dummy email to be set but it must be made by the middleman
3- middleman secure account
4-you pay the seller
5- MM hands you the account

Yes, I understand that it wouldn't be my email if so anybody could just take the opportunity to take it without making the payment. From my understanding, the emails linked to the account can't be changed only the password.
So I could ask him to change the password(of the email and acc) that was provided to him by the seller(him making sure everything is legit) then show proof of payment and receive the the account.
The last part is when would Good and services would be justified? Since F&F has a fee if it is sent out of the US for me.
I know it's up to the seller and buyer to agree to a payment method but looking for a tip or an idea of when it is a good idea to use if at all.

Alphatester · Aug 4, 2022

germr said:
Yes, I understand that it wouldn't be my email if so anybody could just take the opportunity to take it without making the payment. From my understanding, the emails linked to the account can't be changed only the password.
So I could ask him to change the password(of the email and acc) that was provided to him by the seller(him making sure everything is legit) then show proof of payment and receive the the account.
The last part is when would Good and services would be justified? Since F&F has a fee if it is sent out of the US for me.
I know it's up to the seller and buyer to agree to a payment method but looking for a tip or an idea of when it is a good idea to use if at all.

about payment you can send it always as goods and services so incase anything wrong happened you can refund it
regarding the middleman ya you can request him to fully secure the email and account and he would give you both when payment is done

germr · Aug 4, 2022

Alphatester said:
about payment you can send it always as goods and services so incase anything wrong happened you can refund it
regarding the middleman ya you can request him to fully secure the email and account and he would give you both when payment is done

That was what I was concerned about. Wanted to know if Goods and services was a viable payment method since from looking at threads they only say f&f making me believe that it was not a viable payment method. But I guess it depends on the seller and I guess money talks when it comes to negotiating.
Thank you.

Alphatester · Aug 4, 2022

germr said:
That was what I was concerned about. Wanted to know if Goods and services was a viable payment method since from looking at threads they only say f&f making me believe that it was not a viable payment method. But I guess it depends on the seller and I guess money talks when it comes to negotiating.
Thank you.

Anytime

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Ace · Aug 4, 2022

Normally, you wont need to request anything from the MMs because the MMs Ive dealt with do it anyway to secure the account.

I bought and sold a lot of highend e7 accounts (>1000 USD). You will have a hard time finding someone who will accept pp g&s.

Good luck and if you have any questions regarding e7 trades, feel free to ask me

Angel · Aug 4, 2022

germr said:
That was what I was concerned about. Wanted to know if Goods and services was a viable payment method since from looking at threads they only say f&f making me believe that it was not a viable payment method. But I guess it depends on the seller and I guess money talks when it comes to negotiating.
Thank you.

Middleman will secure the account regardless if you ask or not, it's our primary job to secure everything before the payment is done. For payment method you have to ask the seller before transaction starts, some sellers will refuse Goods and Services so if you do not prefer other methods of payment, make sure to ask the seller if he is fine with your request.

germr · Aug 4, 2022

Ace said:
Normally, you wont need to request anything from the MMs because the MMs Ive dealt with do it anyway to secure the account.

I bought and sold a lot of highend e7 accounts (>1000 USD). You will have a hard time finding someone who will accept pp g&s.

Good luck and if you have any questions regarding e7 trades, feel free to ask me

Since you have dealt with E7 accounts. I haven't played the game in over 1 year due to some reason and my acc is just far behind(missed slime event). Is there a way for the seller to get the account back?
How hard is it for the seller to get the account back?
Can he have another email set as a recovery email for the dummy email that is connected to the account(what are the chances and how to make sure?)
I've seen threads of ppl getting scammed and the seller gets banned and all but in the end the buyer doesn't get anything since he paid with f&f.
I remember reading that the OO can just say that his account was hacked and show payment history and then he can get it back.
Any other question i have would be similar regarding the safety of the buyer when buying an e7 acc. And what steps would you recommend taking when trying to buy an acc with f&f since if the seller somehow manages to take it back i would be screwed.

Ace · Aug 5, 2022

germr said:
Since you have dealt with E7 accounts. I haven't played the game in over 1 year due to some reason and my acc is just far behind(missed slime event). Is there a way for the seller to get the account back?
How hard is it for the seller to get the account back?
Can he have another email set as a recovery email for the dummy email that is connected to the account(what are the chances and how to make sure?)
I've seen threads of ppl getting scammed and the seller gets banned and all but in the end the buyer doesn't get anything since he paid with f&f.
I remember reading that the OO can just say that his account was hacked and show payment history and then he can get it back.
Any other question i have would be similar regarding the safety of the buyer when buying an e7 acc. And what steps would you recommend taking when trying to buy an acc with f&f since if the seller somehow manages to take it back i would be screwed.

I recommend you to read both these threads.

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/an-in-depth-guide-on-epic7-account-security-transferring.1550389/

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/epic-7-accounts-how-to-avoid-being-scammed.1919867/

Your best bet is to use trade guardian and buy from someone who appears to be trustworthy. In the trade itself, the MM will secure the account for you. Any problem that arises during the trade will be solved by the MM. Everything after that is kinda tricky because it depends on many different circumstances.

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