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Dear EPICNPC,

This accusitions are not true, i have proof of everything, im here to clear my name.

Note: He contacted me first via Discord, his Discort ID is razer#3070

As i said accusitions are not true, the buyer contacted me back at 22nd of November 2019, he was interested in mage account, after a while, he decided to buy the account, before buying an account i told him that im not original owner and that i will provide original owners ID, he agreed with it and i provided ID as promised, he bought account 30th of november 2019, first i told him that im not original owner and that i will provide original owners id, that was at 14.14pm, then he said its fine, and then he paid me at 14.29pm, so as u can see he was fine with it(and now he tells me that i didnt tell him that im not original owner and if i ever told him he would never buy account(you can see screenshots below).

So he bought account and he played on it for a while.Then at 20th of December, he contacted me again about account, he told me that he have problem with it, and asked me to recover it for him, once i saw epicnpc thread and saw that guy scammed him, guy nammed Sumbootey, theres thread nammed "Sumbootey recovered account", so apperantly he traded dumgeon geared mage for epic geared rogue, thats unreal even to hear something like that not to trade.But according to epicnpc and everything i saw there, i decided to be GOOD guy and help him out, i contacted original owner went to his place, i was doing that getting in uncomfortable situation with him, hecause he was in a hurry, but i promised so what could i do.. anyway guy got scammed once, i helped him even tho i didnt need to, and now he contacts me again, and now again he lost his account, and he wants me to het it back to him ahain, even tho i said i did this once, u have id card, from now on ur on ur own, and few days ago, 2 months has passed since i recovered his account, he want me to recover it for him again, sorry but i dont trust this guy anymore, and i dont want to help him scamm somebody else or whatever.. maybe he sold it, spent money and want account back, i dont know.I told him thats it from me and he agreed.

After everything i did for him, now he compains again and gives me negative vote on site.I think this is unfair and i want it to be removed.

1.This is where i told him that im not original owner of account, but that ill provide original owners id.

https://imgur.com/3xC9B9h

2. This is where he sent me the payment, he was also 10eur short on payment that he promised, this is after i told him im not original owner, 14.29, payment recieved.

https://imgur.com/lqEAspL

And now hes accusing me that i never told him that i wasnt original owner of account, theres the proof that i told him before he bought account.

Anything else EPICNPC needs, i can provide full chat as proof, i dont want this to influence my further deals

Thanks in advace,
Narwzul.
 

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you indeed told me you were not oo but your best friend was. but you never mentioned to me you sold it before to someone else in hungary. i thought u were selling it and the oo was your best friend and thats it. now after it actually got recovered you telling me account has been resold and a guy from hungary bla bla wtf? you never mentioned anyone else having acces to the id besides you and the OO.
 
you sold the account saying you were the seller and your best friend in real life is the oo. thats it. u never mentioned the acc was sold already to whoever knows how many people. its a really big matter you should let the buyer know beforehand. thats why u got a negative vouch from me and im 180EUR down the drain
 
Its not true, i told you that i sold it to guy in Hungary, and 9n my every single thread theres a note, upon buying acc from me u get original owners id, email login, bnet login, sec question.ON EVERY thread i post here for last 5 years.
This is where i told you:
https://imgur.com/piSAbcj

He was 1st buyer and as note said he recieved id of original owner, so after a while he wanted to sell it, and i gave him my warrior, got mage and some money, i dont know if he oversold it or whatever he did, i bought it because its acc that i boosted.

I literally told u not to sell qccpunt anymore bcs im not responsible for it anymore, i helped u once even tho i didnt need to, i wanted to be good guy and help u out.

This is where u told me u wont sell it anymore:

https://imgur.com/axpxFwP

That was 21st of Dec 2019, and at 8th of Jan 2020 hes making thread (selling) LV 60 undead mage great account 120eur" so he wants to sell it, and 13th of Feb 2020 hes whispering me that he lost control over account,
He probably sold it and want account back, or traded and got scammed i dont know anymore, i dont trust this guy and he looks like a scammer.

Also he was selling eu account as us account.So much things doesnt add up with this guy, i dont want to help him scamm other ppl or whatever is he doing.

Narwzul.
 
i dont feel like reading everything of your blabla, but anyway, the picture you showed me at first was already after the sale, before the sale u never told me about anyone else having acces to the id besides you me and the oo. you never mentioned something like that beforehand, now the account is recovered. and i dont want you to recover because i dont feel safe playing on it, i would like a refund but obviously you wouldnt want to do that, i sugges you contact that guy from hungary and get the account back. do whatever you please with it. i surely wont do any business with you. you lie everything together just to make a sale.
 
i dont understand why you crying so much anyway, i gave you a negative feedback because you never told me about anyone else having acces to the ID before the sale. and it got recovered. so im allowed to give a feedback about that.
 
No you're not allowed, since i helped u all the time, recovered account dor you when u got scammed, then u promise u wont sell it, and u post thread to sell qcc again, and god knows what hapoend now.And now u wanted me to recover accoukt for you.It wont hapoen, and its not fair that negative vote, i want some gm to read all this, and remove negative feedback.Because this will affect my bussines, and im doing this for a living not by scamming people.
 
i think youre stubborn and blind as hell man, i dont understand why i have to tell you everything 50 times? the account got recovered.. i dont ask you to recover the account for me because i simply dont even play the game, i joined the hype when game came out and quit already a long time ago. i still had acces to the account untill i had received email that it was email changed. wich i surely did not do because i cba.
its very fair i gave a negative vote because you were not honest when i purchased the account. when i bought it you stated you are the seller and your best friend is OO. now when the trouble comes u telling me its been sold to more people that has id etc?? u never told me before i bought it the account has already been sold to anyone else having id etc. u only said u the seller and oo is your best friend and thats it.
basically its your own fault. you should have been honest from the start. its unsafe to buy from you and people should know they are buying accounts from u that are being resold many times
 
And all of a sudden, u dont play anymore.U have thread, maybe u sold acc, and now when i dont want to return it to you, when i declined u decided to give me negqtive vote.Thats not fair on your side, and i got negative vote for nothing, thats why i made all this and want that negative vote removed.
 
i dont understand what you trying to say man. once again you only read my comments with a blindfold id guess?
i will explain you one more time.
the reason i put a negative feedback is because u never told me the account was already sold and id was already out to someone else
besides you and the oo (wich is your best buddy as you said)
i bought the account thinking only you and your friend had acces to the id
as problems came u told me the acc is also resold to a guy from hungary before i bought it? you never mentioned that to me before i bought it.
so basically THAT and the fact it got recovered. is why i put a negative.
 
This problem never occured until u lost account in the first place, i hardly think that guy who bought account 1st was the reason that account is lost. Because i gave him my Warrior as i said and he gave me back Mage+money. So that means he has account and have no reason to pull back mage, so as i assume, since he posted a thread on epicnpc to sell char, he probably already sold it and now wants it back, i dont know, but its only reasonable explanation to me.He also lied on that thread that accountt is on US server which is not.
 
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the reason i put a negative feedback is because u never told me the account was already sold and id was already out to someone else
besides you and the oo (wich is your best buddy as you said) '' mayby if u read it for the 14th time u will understand?
 
Account got recovered by whoever. And you never told me before the sale that it was already resold multiple times. You said you are the seller and the best friend of yours is oo no other people were ever mentioned before i told you its been recovered and thats when u confessed, its bad trading practices wich u never told me about and it got recovered so i legitimately put a negative feedback on you wich you deserved.
 
Dude i told u that it was oversold before, there's a screenshot that i posted, you just sold account or whatever, i saw that u scammed some guy by telling it that account is on US and it was on EU, and theres a post that u selling mage and i told u not to do that and u told me that u wont.I have a proof of that aswell.. U got scammed or lost control of account already and i wanted to help u be a good guy and retrive it for you, now u lost it again, god knows how now. Im not able to help u anymore, i told u to be carefull and not to sell it, and u did it again, Theres nothing i can do about it, if u unhappy go blame somebody else, i dont want my reputation to get screwd over something i had nothing to do with. So please..
 
As said before i explained 50 times why i gave a negative feedback? I suggest you to read it all over again for another 50 times everything you said is irrelevant to why i made a negative feedback, now watch the reason 1 more time: i gave negative feedback because you never told me acc was resold along with id given to another person before i ever purchased the acc. I bought the account with the knowledge you were the seler and your best friend in real life is the oo. Before i purchased you never mentioned anyone else having acces to id and acc was sold before i bought it. Acc got recovered aswel so number 1 reason is that it got recovered and number 2 is because you lied to me and never let me know this account was already resold with id given etc before i bought the account.
 
@Narwzul you are responsible for what you sell, you can't just sell an account to someone and not take responsibility for it when an issue occurs.

The OO, the person who bought the account first, and Narwzul all have the ability to recover the account.

Narwzul you must try to recover the account.
 
@EpicNPC CM i told him that account was resold before, have screenshot, when i mentioned "rasta", and then after that this "ditti" guy bought account, also he sold it once, traded for some rogue and lost account because guy scammed him, came back to me to cry to recover account that he lost on his fault not mine.And I RECOVERED it to be "good guy" and told him that he cant do that because i wont recover it for him anymore. He said hes gonna play on acc and never gonna sell it again, and AGAIN i see on his epicnpc posts that hes selling MAGE so i do not know if he already sold it and want me to recover it or whatever.. go check his epicnpc threads and ull see time when he posted acc, also he has 3 negative votes, ppl already accused him of scamming, dont get me wrong, but i dont want to be the "scammer" if he already sold account which he probably did since theres a post and everything.
 
This is where i told him that it was re-sold before
https://imgur.com/6CCj50k

He knew that account was re sold before buying it.Everything was fine, he played on account for a long time, then he decided to trade BIS RAID ROGUE for pre-raid MAGE, and thats where he got scammed, maybe he gave ID of oo to that guy aswell, i really have no idea.
There's a thread aswell with that guy who scammed him i just cant find it now, and after reading that thread and found out that EPICNPC decided that he must give account back to "ditti", i contacted oo and we returned acc to him, saying its one time thing, wont do that anymore, so he has to bcarefull now, and he was so happy and agreed to that.

Then when he again lost control of his account and wanted me to recover it i refused and i fount this on his EpicNPC: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lv-60-undead-mage-great-account-120eur.1550308/ he's claiming that account is on North America, Horde fraction, and from screenshots that he posted there i know its a mage that i sold it to him.

Also he SOLD that account and guy that he sold it to confirmed it by saying account is on EU NOT ON NA, and that guy scammed him and wont return money, link below is screenshot of that aswell.
https://imgur.com/0hcRzBa

Thanks in advance,
Narwzul.
 
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he is lying once again like he always does. that screenshot he sent is AFTER the trade BEFORE the trade he never mentioned about the account being resold before he only said he had acces to it and his best friend is the oo.
he tried to delete the evidence by deleting the account. but i still have every proof needed and can provide more on request: https://media.[Social group links n...2065529938031/image0.png?width=309&height=670
 
i can provide full chat logs with proof that he never told me of that before i bought the account. his screenshot says 21 december 2019. wich is roughly 11 days after the sale occured
 
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sure, here is the full conversation from beginning till purchase, as you will notice he never mentioned account being resold. he deleted his discord and tried to lie here by providing screenshots of saying he told me that acc is resold. unfortunately that was 11 days after the sale.
https://gyazo.com/61b8e65c72b9791067591416b1732fe4
https://gyazo.com/ac900e5fa051e9858bdc0c6acb91883e
https://gyazo.com/1675120ae574c5e4ee7fa84b7f602322
https://gyazo.com/b02ab384aad927ddd62fe322aeba4c1d
https://gyazo.com/592a10d260c5e7db9293c4f4cc216023
https://gyazo.com/d176d1667461cc86df908db67d1315b9
https://gyazo.com/b592b933cafa36ad69574978e41ffade
https://gyazo.com/60a1ae32f205e19046db147c31010d4b
https://gyazo.com/afe40a961749c3c715fe2f5f0bfa5d0c
https://gyazo.com/35f1403b2a209bdb497679149e15f4bb
https://gyazo.com/25f0fd98a7f084921b6acf49ecbd2ee1
https://gyazo.com/c33f5ac32a1faa23cce1fd9843b487e2
https://gyazo.com/40c8d74be1ab71418c31ba1618b5cb5a
https://gyazo.com/1276eea42672498a55533deb378f312a
 
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EpicNPC CM said:
@Narwzul Is there any way for you to recover the account as of now?
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He probably cant since its a resold account wich i didnt know about at all bedore purchase he lied to me and i have proven you that by my screenshots. The one he provided saying the acc was resold is 11 days after the trade he is trying to get away with this also with deleting his discord but that aint gonne help him. Why would he need to recover it? I dont want the account back as its clearly very unsafe to play on it
 
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When i recovered account for him last time, i had problemsrecovering it.Account is kinda "marked" by blizzard, and they told me that if i lost control of account again they wont recover it for me anymore. Also i had to go in other town to visit friend, screw up his schadule and together we recovered account for "ditti", they didnt want just ID as proof, i had to run to the store, buy newspaper and screenshot from which town im buying newspaper, exact date with id, so they could confirm it. It took so much effort for me to do all that, and cost me around 20eur to do all that(fuel and all that).They recovered it for me and told me that if account got recovered again or change adress of owner or something like that, they will consider it as theft or something and account will be banned.I did tell him all that and he agreed not to sell it anymore.

So i dont feel comfortable contacting blizzard again for that because i dont want my bussines to get involved with blizzard and i get ip adress ban or something, i hope u understand what im saying...
https://imgur.com/j8rIBkZ
This is where i told him that account is resold, also EpicNPC, on every1 of my posts there's a a NOTE that i put up saying that buyer gets email info, bnet info, sec question/answer, and original owners ID if account is under real name.

I deleted discord because of something else, not because im trying to hide something out, i deleted it because i needed that email adress for my main discord, not the one that i sell accounts. That has nothing to do with this..

https://imgur.com/5fby649
This is screenshot where he sold account 9th of February 2020. After a while he told me that he cant login to account anymore even tho i told him i wont recover it for him because of all this and he SAID he WONT sell it anymore, just gonna play on it, but still he sold it still. Then i posted "this accusations are not true" thread on 18th of February 2020.

So as i can see this he had account till 9th of Feb.2020., he sold it, contacted me few days later(around 14th Feb.2020 that he lost control of account and wants recover), and on 18th i posted thread.
Plus i never had any problems with anyone, he's the one who does some unreal trades or whatever, im here for around 5 years, and everythings clear on my side, and he joined EpicNPC like 6months ago and already have 3 negative votes.

Narwzul.
 
you keep telling the same story however its very irrelevant, you have linked a negative review of mine like 5 times, wich is irrelevant of why this report is going on.
once again you prove ''proof'' of saying you told me there were more owners of the account before i bought it, unfortunately your screenshots are from 11 days AFTER the trade was being made as you can see in the screenshots i provided.
 
On my screenshots i was talking about dates that matches that u actually sold account, You had account till 9th of Feb.2020., he sold it, contacted me few days later (around 14th Feb.2020 that he lost control of account and wants recover), , and wanted me to retrive it for you. Even tho u told me u wont sell it again u put it on sale? whats up with that? i mean its ur account u can do with it whatever u like, but i told u i wont retrive it for you anymore, I dont trust you, and as far as i can see u scamming other people.And now ur blaming me for something so irrelevant, and its irrelevant because i sold u account like half a year ago, and u NEVER had problems with it, but u started TRADING/SELLING and who knows what else with that account. And from the FIRST TIME U "TRADED" ACCOUNT, u have these complications.I dont know what are you doing, i helped u once as i promised and i told u i wont do it again, and u agreed to that. And now u blame me for not telling u i gave ID to someone i sold account to.On my every post u have NOTE that says that buyer gets all info with account when he purchase it.

According to ur feedbacks you can tell what bussines you do.And u have account for like 7months, and im here for like 4 years or so.

EpicNPC, do u have any solution for this problem?

Thanks in advance,
Narwzul.
 
im not going to read another book from you its probably the same story over and over again
the reason for the negative review is because account got recovered and you never told me you resold it before you sold it to me, you only told me that 11 days after the sale that there were more people being able to recover the account. so my review is legit. i dont respond until admins ask to do so.
 
EpicNPC CM said:
@ditti you have the original owner's information correct? Is it possible for you to recover it?
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i only got ID. i sent that but it wasnt enough. i needed to sent another picture with a document or anything else with the same name as the id on it, obviously i couldnt do that because i am not the oo.
however i wouldnt ever feel safe playing on it even if narwzul could recover it for me, i did not know it was resold before i bought it. i bought it knowing he was the best friend of the OO and i thought only those 2 were owners.
after problems occured he admitted acc was resold before wich i never knew about before i purchased is as that is already been proven.
 
When he lost control of his account, traded for rogue, i retrieved account no questions asked!!! and told him not to OVERSELL it OR TRADE IT or whatever.. Just play it and everything's will be fine. HE AGREED TO THAT
NEXT THING I KNOW HE LOST CONTROL OF ACCOUNT AGAIN, AND THERE'S A POST MATCHING DATES THAT HE ACTUALLY SOLD THAT ACCOUNT.I posted all that before dont want to type it again.
So the conclusion is: Even tho i told him not to trade or sell account, which i wont be able to recover it for him anymore, he agrees to that, and still goes and make's posts of selling account and God knows what.

This is thread of mage that i sold him
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lv-60-undead-mage-great-account-120eur.1550308/

Also loot at his feedbacks stats:
https://imgur.com/gfaXMNJ


He's 5 months of EpicNPC and he has 3 negative votes already, i am here for like 4 years. I never had any problems and now this guy comes and gives me negative vote for no reason, ITS HIS FAULT THAT HE OVERSOLD IT AGAIN, NOT MINE, I TOLD HIM NOT TO. HE DID IT ANYWAY.That's all for all this.

He's obv scamming, get to some conclusion here and info me about it. I cant argue with him like 4ever.
 
Narwzul said:
When he lost control of his account, traded for rogue, i retrieved account no questions asked!!! and told him not to OVERSELL it OR TRADE IT or whatever.. Just play it and everything's will be fine. HE AGREED TO THAT
NEXT THING I KNOW HE LOST CONTROL OF ACCOUNT AGAIN, AND THERE'S A POST MATCHING DATES THAT HE ACTUALLY SOLD THAT ACCOUNT.I posted all that before dont want to type it again.
So the conclusion is: Even tho i told him not to trade or sell account, which i wont be able to recover it for him anymore, he agrees to that, and still goes and make's posts of selling account and God knows what.

This is thread of mage that i sold him
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lv-60-undead-mage-great-account-120eur.1550308/

Also loot at his feedbacks stats:
https://imgur.com/gfaXMNJ


He's 5 months of EpicNPC and he has 3 negative votes already, i am here for like 4 years. I never had any problems and now this guy comes and gives me negative vote for no reason, ITS HIS FAULT THAT HE OVERSOLD IT AGAIN, NOT MINE, I TOLD HIM NOT TO. HE DID IT ANYWAY.That's all for all this.

He's obv scamming, get to some conclusion here and info me about it. I cant argue with him like 4ever.
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Youre obviously to dumb to understand anything.
Everything you say is irrelevant and i wont even respond on that. Facts are on the table and proven. You lied about ownerships of the acc and not telling me acc was resold before the sale. And it got recovered because of that. For those 2 things i left a negative review. You keep bringing up irrelevant stuff wich has nothing to do why i left a negative feedback
 
@EpicNPC CM pls revied my previous post and come up with a solution. Im saying one thing and "ditti" saying anther one. Check his post and everything i wrote there, and come up with something to finish this.

He never had problems with account until he started selling/trading with it.I dont want to get involved in all that.And i think my positive votes tells im not guilty here.

I sell account and forget about it, after that mage, i made rogue as u can see in my threads, now im almost done with druid aswell. I dont get involved in scamming or gettin in trouble with any1 ever.

Best regards,
Narwzul.
 
Narwzul said:
@EpicNPC CM pls revied my previous post and come up with a solution. Im saying one thing and "ditti" saying anther one. Check his post and everything i wrote there, and come up with something to finish this.

He never had problems with account until he started selling/trading with it.I dont want to get involved in all that.And i think my positive votes tells im not guilty here.

I sell account and forget about it, after that mage, i made rogue as u can see in my threads, now im almost done with druid aswell. I dont get involved in scamming or gettin in trouble with any1 ever.

Best regards,
Narwzul.
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What solution? Account got recovered and u didnt tel me account was resold whatsoever you only told me u were the oo u never said it was dangerous for me to purchase as you gave someone else the ID of the account. So because you were hiding that before i bought the account AND the account got recovered is why i left a negative review wich is legit
 
EpicNPC CM said:
@Narwzul just post the images of your chat where you recover the account the first time and tell ditti not to sell it. After this we can make a resolution.
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Account was 1 time traded for another acc but not the ID was given. The user recovered his acc back wich made me contact narwzul and he recovered it back for me. After a while the acc got recovered and thats when narwzul tells me he sold the acc before to someone else with ID given. He never told me there was a risk someone else was anle to recover it and this was a big risk for me to buy. He lied to me. Acc was unsafe to buy and he never told me before sale. He lied to me. Its an unsafe user to buy an sccount from. He is a lie and the acc got recovered and left me with a 180Eur loss. That is why my feedback is legit
 
@EpicNPC CM

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sumbootey-recovered-account.1543329/#post-6581910

This is a thread where he lost account for the first time, that's the time where he asked me to read it and recover account for him. At first it was suspicious for me, but when i saw that Moderator wrote msg and i quote "@Sumbootey you are responsible for everything you sell here. If you are not able to return this account then you need to give a new one or to pay in the same value. The last option is returning a mage account. " when i saw that i decided to help him and return account for him.

I returned account for him and told him not to oversell it/trade with it or whatever.. just to play on it and thats it otherwise i wont be returning accounts for him anymore
This was his answer:
https://imgur.com/g43zSer

As you can see that was 21st of December 2019.

And then on 8th of January 2020. he made a post selling mage
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lv-60-undead-mage-great-account-120eur.1550308/#post-6619539 (this is the thread)

So that's where he broke the deal again..in comments below there's a comment from buyer saying "scammer, said account was on US its on EU wont return money"

Narwzul.
 
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