Steam account was Retrieved by the Original Owner

[jasonkid1711]

Information
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Purchase Date: 08.01.2023
Date the problem began: 11.01.2023
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Trade Guardian
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: @LeagueBoost.org
Your Instant Messenger ID: jasonkid1711

Other information: seller of this account was not original owner and when in transaction also did not tell that. Seller states that he have bought this from epic npc user @AtlantisLOM


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/euc...-5x3-3x-1500-alts-5x3-more-only-250e.2407499/
Approximate value of property: 245 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? YES
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Transaction #71222

What is the dispute about? After two days account was retrieved by orginal owner. Original owner had claimed his account back and changed the binds to his own. Contacted to seller and seller is notified about this and is interest in resolving this, but is not original owner of account. Seller Have bought this from AtlantisLOM.

Other details / notes
There is limited proof I can provide because there was no indication that the account has being retrieved back to the original owner. The only indication is Icouldn't login back to mine account. Also seller of this account acknowledge that original



Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? For two days (from 08.01.23-10.01.23) 11.01.23 found out that i cant log in

If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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[jasonkid1711]

Sorry about screen shots, i am new to this and registered the day only when i bought the acc

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

good evening,
as mentioned to the seller I am not the original owner. Clearly mentioned on the post.

The original owner or the person I received this account from was @AtlantisLOM.

The user in question initially sold me the account via trade in personal DMS in screenshot.
The trade essentially included the following: MY BDO account [that i had purchased on him on site via trade guardian] + 50 euros of paysafe card for the lost ark account.

Have included some screenshots below.
The user in question has a last name under the alias Adrianbitica, his steam ID is adrianbitica, he has confirmed his old email was [email protected] which is exactly the same as the steam ID.
The seller has also had conflicting stories. which made me realize his scummy behaviour. Initially he claimed he had bought the account a few months prior, however, upon further research it seems he was lying as I took a screenshot of the previous logins to ensure that in case this happened I had some proof basis to back it out. Unless somehow magically someone was logging in from Madrid even back in 2021?

To add, there was a small recovery incident, however, he based it on a story where I believed him due to his extensive reputation. He had claimed that in fact it was due to a host? Quote "the host had gotten hacked, thereby the individual had infinite access to the account to change whatever they wanted" Have also screenshots to provide regarding this matter. He claimed that the host was removed and that the account was safe.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - slander

To further add, when i contacted @AtlantisLOM regarding this matter their reaction was this:

To add: starting effective now he has started an auto bot and has deleted most messages on discord.

after I have screenshoted these:

to add: https://prnt.sc/fkcJxqWtNJtQ

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

user has been checking lost ark accounts constantly. Makes me think recovery did take place.

 

[jasonkid1711]

I noticed that one to. But what i know is that i dont have anymore acces to this account. Also thit thread does not have yet any response from Admins

 

[jasonkid1711]

@LeagueBoost.org By searching in steam profiles today found out there is two users with letter combination adrianbitica. And this user 0adrianbitica0 have the same letter and number count as changed email and email new starts wit 0 (zero) to account adrianbitica21. He have claimed it back. And changed email to [email protected]

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

I confirm that the email [email protected] characters match with the email shown above by jason kid. both are 14 characters long.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - slander

To add in accordance to this if the user @AtlantisLOM the user has also threatened me and proceeded to delete all of his messages on discord.

to also add he was promoting me to not talk to the user in question that i traded with because apparently i did not have to help him as I was not the original owner?

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

To add: he also claims my 50 euro steam got recovered which isn't possible and when I asked him more about the matter he refused to elaborate.

he deleted his messages so cannot show the full screenshots sadly.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

Hello,
after more research the new steam link is:

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a bit odd how the name is adria which fits with his name.

 

[jasonkid1711]

And also in steam is registered this email

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[jasonkid1711]

I did screen recoord of trying of recover account

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[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

can you stop edit with F12 tool and create **** about me xD , i help you a few times and u posted im nice guy, after no good guy, after good guy, no good guy, good guy, and now u fked and again comes to me to help xD

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - slander

can you stop edit with F12 tool and create **** about me xD , i help you a few times and u posted im nice guy, after no good guy, after good guy, no good guy, good guy, and now u fked and again comes to me to help xD

there is no editing. You clearly deleted every single discord comment. You are a liar and that's that.

 

[jasonkid1711]

can you stop edit with F12 tool and create **** about me xD , i help you a few times and u posted im nice guy, after no good guy, after good guy, no good guy, good guy, and now u fked and again comes to me to help xD

Then you can show full screen screenshots from you side to if he is lying?

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

i help him always i can, now he do **** and use all my conversation on his benefit, that's why i delete the conversation with him xD and from where u see that email ? because i never see you can watch some email on recovery so gl with F12 tool edit xD

 

[jasonkid1711]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

i help him always i can, now he do **** and use all my conversation on his benefit, that's why i delete the conversation with him xD and from where u see that email ? because i never see you can watch some email on recovery so gl with F12 tool edit xD

This is zero proof we know that this is not first time you have done. Lets see what admins say. And Also screenshoted you answer this one becaus in Discord you stated that bot delets you messages XD

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

how you see email on steam ?¿ f12 tool to edit ? xddd

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

This is zero proof we know that this is not first time you have done. Lets see what admins say. And Also screenshoted you answer this one becaus in Discord you stated that bot delets you messages XD

dont fking talk to me like u know me, u just know what this guy is saying to you.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

dont fking talk to me like u know me, u just know what this guy is saying to you.

screenshots do not lie
I have more screenshots, and screenshotted the majority of our conversation, including you trying to prevent me from talking to the buyer and opening a dispute.

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

you said you will not chargeback and u just provide him help, and i said you to make him waste of time , ignore tell him he take risk from buying acc and gl
What u want from me ?

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

more screenshots like the one from steam recovered with F12 tool to put what u want for you ?

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

@jasonkid1711 did he told you 1 day before selling you he got stolen the account ? or he just sell to move the problem to other ?

 

[jasonkid1711]

I dont fcking care about you scammer. I dont talk that you cheat loser. All I know that you reclaimed it. And This site rules states that if you sell here you need to provide recovery tools. If you did not reclaimed acc, then you can revoer it and send credentials to him. But you stol and scam people that what losers like you do. If i wont get ACC or Money back, i will make sure that tha steam account is blocked, because i have eviden enought to get it blocked

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

Also the seller had an incident where the account was recovered a week or two prior, however he claimed it was via a host and assured me it would not be recovered again and it was only an accident. The seller here as well has claimed to have bought this account from elitepvpers but has refused to provide and links or actual proof regarding the matter.

He had clearly claimed that it was the host and that it had now been deleted, but to what cost. Clearly it is still available. He had also screenshots of the account where he claimed that someone had hacked them which I found odd at the time, but he re-assured me that he was helping him and I trusted him due to my naiveness.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

I dont fcking care about you scammer. I dont talk that you cheat loser. All I know that you reclaimed it. And This site rules states that if you sell here you need to provide recovery tools. If you did not reclaimed acc, then you can revoer it and send credentials to him. But you stol and scam people that what losers like you do. If i wont get ACC or Money back, i will make sure that tha steam account is blocked, because i have eviden enought to get it blocked

he apparently got his host compromised, in these screenshots it clearly says that he deleted the host, and that the account was safe. I asked him this question numerous times. However, it clearly seems like he assumed i did not screenshot the whole conversation.

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

go do it like i fking care about that account, that's ur problem brother xd, fking kids

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

tell ur best friend to give your money back, i dont have your account and your money losers, keep editing F12 tools on emails and what u want , idiots xD

 

[jasonkid1711]

go do it like i fking care about that account, that's ur problem brother xd, fking kids

Scared? Dude you stole it back we have enought lets see when admins will respond to this.

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

scared ? i'm telling you go do ur sht but stop spam me with ****, i dont have ur sht money, why ur friend is not telling you i have 20k € on paypal ? i fight for 50€ ? fking kid pooors

 

[jasonkid1711]

Then you have 0 problems to fill this form and send all crede

ntials to him that he throo epic nep can send me

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

what ? i understand 0 what u saying xd

 

[jasonkid1711]

Fill that form and after you get all recovery back you can send throo epic npc all logins and recovery tools to him

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

i put my mail there and i get all info ? and send here?

 

[jasonkid1711]

Direct mesage to him in epic npc dumb ass

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

give link for this complete

 

[jasonkid1711]

Search in steam. You have done it before

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

go fk urself i'm trying to show you , now go fk u and ur friend, lick ass one to other

 

[jasonkid1711]

Scared and angry. Lets see what admins will have to say about you response.

 

[jasonkid1711]

Also by looking in you profile I and Him we are not first time victims of your scam

 

[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

ask your mate about the money and trade, not me xD

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

To also add to this, the bdo account he had sold me initially had been recovered from @Distortred_Alice. [meaning that @AtlantisLOM recovered the account from @Distortred_Alice and banned it while recovering it later. [distorder_alice is also a victim in this case]
Here is some proof regarding this matter.

For the CM/other moderators of epicnpc, this trade can be confirmed in both the trade groups me and @Distortred_Alice had with @Delac. Delac failed to realize that this account was being resold, however, to his credit it seems that it had been almost 1.5 years since the trade had occurred thereby I understand how it could be missed. Have included proof to show that the account sold was the same.

I have attached the images to be available only for staff due to account privacy being included in these screenshots.

For more reference see here: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/selling-261-ap-valky-g2-200€.1969754/ --> distorted alice and his trade. To add to this will be including a life skill screenshot which is identical.

to add this is due to me life skilling a bit before trading the account away with @AtlantisLOM, however, if you check both of our trade guardians and disputes it is clear that I was sold a stolen account that originally belonged to @Distortred_Alice which he banned.

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[AtlantisLOM]

Banned - Banned - Pegasus1000

lie + lie

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

some more proof is him sending this screenshot of the life skills which match with @Distortred_Alice 's account that had gotten banned.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

lie + lie

not really, i really did assume you did not lie, however, there's sufficient proof to say that you are indeed lying.

screenshots of admission:

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

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[LeagueBoost.org]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - slander

Do note that the user is saying I'm lying, however he has deleted all of his messages in discord using a bot in an attempt to prevent me from screenshotting evidence.

 

[LeagueBoost.org]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - slander

lie + lie

To further add, he refused to show the proof on where he threatened me to have him as his enemy on numerous occasions. We talked and I believed him on the basis on friendship, which he broke again.


to add: he told me and fabricated proof that he made a new account however i do not have screenshots of that due to him just mass deleting all his messages on discord.
The only proof i have is a conversation with tobias aka @Distortred_Alice . The image can be found below in our conversation on discord.

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[LeagueBoost.org]

Banned - slander

To add:
this is proof he owns the email [email protected]
making it even more liable to the case of him owning [email protected]

to further add to this, if you check @Distortred_Alice dispute again, you can see that a new email had been added by the alias 0 and ending with 0 and gmail.com
Both emails in this case add up to 14 characters, matching the email in question.