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edit: just realized how long this was. Oh well.

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[Fri Jul 18 2008 09:52:19 PM] wowminejg:
Hello, sorry to bother you however it has come to my attention that you are in possesion of a Scarab Lord Titled Warrior?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 09:55:01 PM] wowminejg:
Please let me know when you might have a moment to discuss the character, also I would greatly appreciate it if you could direct me towards any posting of the character being for sale. I apologize for not having seen your ad I was speaking with another person and he directed me to you as having owned a Scarab Lord Warrior, thanks for your time.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 09:56:32 PM] wowminejg:
I can be contacted on this AIM normally from 8 PM to 6 AM EST, I can also be reached at [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected] Thank's for your time.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:15:13 PM] onemocha: Hello, sorry busy animating so I missed the IM when you sent it. Did you make a post under the thread on markee?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:15:38 PM] onemocha: Oh my bad, didn't read the IM entirely.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:16:07 PM] wowminejg:
Thank you for getting back to me, I'm sorry I

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:16:15 PM] wowminejg:
I'm not entirely aware what markee is?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:16:19 PM] onemocha: Yes, I have a scarab lord warrior for sale, SWP tank gear and Black Temple DPS gear.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:17:52 PM] onemocha: Did you have any questions or an offer for the account? markee is a forum for players to buy/sell/trade accounts for various MMO's

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:18:31 PM] wowminejg:
Ok excellent, well if you were interested in working with a legitimate business rather than a private party or local buyer I would love to discuss the account with you. One of our long standing customers has put in a request for a level 70 Scarab Lord Titled character and yours sounds like a very good match. He is offering $1500.00 to find an account that suites is needs, would it be possible to get some additional information to determine if this account would be eligible.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:19:02 PM] onemocha: Sure, go ahead.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:19:25 PM] wowminejg:
I see, thank you for that information. I apologize for not knowing this place, I normally work only with requested contacts and don't proactively seek out accounts unless there is a specific request.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:19:58 PM] onemocha: Fair enough, checking out wowmine.com as we speak. Go ahead at any time, perhaps the request matches.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:20:45 PM] wowminejg:
Ok thank you, would it be possible to direct me towards any current listing of the account? I can most likely eliminate some questions and ensure a much smoother process. I would like to do my best to ensure your completion satisfaction even if we are unable to come to a resolution on this account.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:21:07 PM] onemocha: Sure, you can the markee listing here: http://www.markeedragon.com/forums/ubbth...SWP#Post1633418

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:21:36 PM] onemocha: Most of the information about the warrior is included. If you would like to look at an armory generated for the characters current gear: http://www.mywowarmory.com/profile.php?id=2785

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:21:58 PM] wowminejg:
Certainly, I would be able to provide various forms of verification, I would be able to link you to our PayPal reputation page, e-mail you from the address, setup a phone conversation between you and a manager at WoW Mine, and do whatever else nessecary to prove our legitimacy.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:22:13 PM] wowminejg:
Ok thank you for that information, one moment please while I review the information.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:22:30 PM] onemocha: I would definitely like to establish the legitimacy before any transfers take place, but go ahead and take a look first.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:26:54 PM] wowminejg:
Yes definitely, especially since we normally require all information before a payment would be placed most likely a phone-call or even a certified company letter would be in order. What I will likely do for you today is establish the account information and set up a follow up phone call between you and a manager to speak about the proceedings. I don't want to waste your time and would like to make this as easy as possible however considering there is only so much verification available online and I work in a special department normally on accounts that are extremely well equipped, that are being used for customer specific requests, and that are worth a high value are taken very seriously and communication is essential.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:30:06 PM] onemocha: If the account matches the buyer's request I wouldn't mind setting up a phone call between myself and a manager for wowmine.com. To verify this is actually someone from WoWmine.com would you be able to email me from a company email address? Therein, you could provide a contact number for a manager to speak with over the account transfer.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:31:04 PM] wowminejg:
Yes I certainly would be able to, I apologize for the delay was reviewing the account infromation. May I please have the e-mail address you would like the verification sent to?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:31:13 PM] onemocha: Sure, go ahead and send it to ************.com

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:31:31 PM] wowminejg:
Ok thank you, one moment please.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:34:33 PM] wowminejg:
Ok, thank you for your patience. I have sent an e-mail to your requested address.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:35:46 PM] wowminejg:
Please be sure to check your "Junk" or "Bulk" mail folders in order to ensure our e-mail is received. Please let me know when you have received this e-mail and we can proceed with asking a few questions and possibly setting up a time to speak regarding the account.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:35:39 PM] onemocha: Great, thank you for the verification.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:37:47 PM] wowminejg:
Your very welcome, a phone call would not be nessecary however we want to ensure your 100 percent comfortable before working with us. Considering this is an online transaction and we are often targetted for consumer fraud we normally take many verification steps to ensure your comfort level as we normally do require full account information before a payment is released. Despite the fact that accounts are easily re-called if some form of fraud would be present we like to avoid any and all complications and ensure a smooth service to our customers.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:37:57 PM] wowminejg:
Would it be possible to ask a few more questions on the account at this time?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:39:22 PM] onemocha: Regarding the actual payment, and transfer of the account information, that is something I would prefer to speak with you over the phone. But if you have questions regarding the account specifically, please ask. I can answer those now.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:40:11 PM] onemocha: Tomorrow morning/early afternoon would probably be the best time for me to speak on the phone with you regarding the payment/accountinfo. If you would like to email me a number to contact you at, I could give you a call then.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:41:11 PM] wowminejg:
Yes certainly, I do have a few questions just to get some additional information on the account before the issue is escalated. First off how were you expecting payment? It said in your listing that you were not comfortable using PayPal?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:42:48 PM] wowminejg:
Ok, well I'm unsure of who would be handling the issue as I normally don't speak with anyone directly over the phone. It would be escalated to a manager who would normally get your phone number and contact you during a certain time frame, however I can attempt to arrange a contact directly between you and the manager and send his information to you so you could place the phone call to him.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:43:39 PM] onemocha: Yes, unfortunately, I have had issues in the past with Paypal, where someone uses a credit card for payment on an item, only to call their bank and tell them the charge was fraudulent. This causes quite a big hassle. I would personally prefer one of the following types of payment: Western Union/MoneyGram/Money Order or a Bank Wire.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:44:50 PM] wowminejg:
Yes I can certainly understand your concern, working with a business such as ours you would obviously not have to worry about the PayPal issues we have over 1,000 confirmed PayPal transactions. However I'm sure we can accomodate your payment methods and it could easily be arranged for convinence.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:45:10 PM] wowminejg:
Ok, I'm going to ask a few questions quickly and I will escalate this case on to my manager.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:45:29 PM] wowminejg:
Are you the original owner on your account?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:45:36 PM] onemocha: Yes I am the original Owner.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:46:13 PM] wowminejg:
Is your account currently active? ($25 is removed from our quote for inactive accounts)

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:46:41 PM] onemocha: Yes it is currently active, until next month on the 13th I believe. Would have to double check the exact date.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:47:30 PM] wowminejg:
Ok thank you, no need to double-check we normally just prefer to have accounts active prior to purchasing them so we can verify the character right away.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:47:40 PM] wowminejg:
Is your character, or are your characters currently eligible for transfer? If not, can you provide the date they would be eligible for transfer?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:47:32 PM] onemocha: Understandable.
[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:47:50 PM] onemocha: Yep, the character is eligible for transfer.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:48:20 PM] wowminejg:
Do you have any alternate characters worth mentioning that you haven't already described?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:49:00 PM] onemocha: Actually yes, there is a level 56 blood elf priest on the account as well on a PvP server. Worth mentioning, but I don't see that as a major selling factor heh.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:49:49 PM] wowminejg:
Ok thank you, normally any alternatate characters does add value to your account however since this is mainly a fixed price sale it's not much of an issue.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:50:07 PM] wowminejg:
Has your account ever had any warnings, suspensions, or bans from Blizzard Entertainment? (Please be honest we won't reduce your quote based on this information)

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:50:42 PM] wowminejg:
Are you or have you ever been an employee of Blizzard Entertainment or partner companies?

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:50:44 PM] onemocha: Nope, the account has never been banned or suspended/warned. Put too much time into the account to ever warrant those actions.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:51:29 PM] onemocha: No. I am not a blizzard employee and have never been one.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:51:42 PM] wowminejg:
Ok excellent, your account is certainly what our customer is looking for. It's obvious that you have spent a great deal of time progressing on him, not too mention the very rare Scarab Lord Title and current equipment present on the character.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:52:12 PM] onemocha: Indeed, quite a bit of time actually hah. But, I no longer have the time to play the character, hence why I'm looking to sell the account.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:52:48 PM] wowminejg:
Did you have any other questions for me at this time, if not I will be forwarding the case on to my manager and you shoud expect to hear from us in the next 4-8 hours with an e-mail for a phone number you should call in order to complete the transaction. Alternately you can provide us with your contact information and a good time to reach you and a manager will be speaking with you to work out the details.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:54:47 PM] onemocha: Sounds great. One quick question, would you mind telling me who referred you to me? Regarding the next step, please email me with the Information to contact the manager to complete the transaction. Since, I may not have time to handle it appropiately if called at a random time. I'll aim for tomorrow morning/early afternoon though (as its 11PM here now).

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:57:50 PM] wowminejg:
We were referred to you by a gentlemen under the AIM name of Restivo18, he also had a Scarab Lord Warrior however it had previously been sold. That's certainly not a problem I will escalate your case right away and you should expect a response within 4-8 hours with the required information.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:58:47 PM] wowminejg:
I would like to thank you for taking the time to speak with me today, I certainly appreciate your understanding and ability to accomodate our requests. I will be escalating this issue and thank you for considering us for buying your account.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:58:51 PM] onemocha: Awesome, appreciate the interest. I'll keep an eye out for the email to discuss the account further. Take care.

[Fri Jul 18 2008 10:59:16 PM] wowminejg:
Have a good night.
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Scam.

Reason:
1. Email address' Don't work
2. Live chat hasn't heard of anyone by the name of Jeff Gordon.
 
I would have to agree with zero on this one, I would also contact the support from the company he says he is working for and ask a few questions that this guy has already asked you or told you.

If he was legit then the manager would know the information he has giving you and or what he asked.
 
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