Scammer

[Kinjo2706]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 6 November 2021
Date the problem began: 6 November 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: keithаn#3260
Your Instant Messenger ID: 汪汪#1736

Other information: Occasionally changes discord name


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/glo...t-with-p-d-shion-diablo.2084720/#post-7992405
Approximate value of property: $70.0 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?

Other details / notes: The seller told me he has reputable feedbacks and was a member of the EpicNPC society since 2017 hence no MM should be required and is easily trustable. He also confirmed that he is the original poster of the site by commenting on the post when I told him to. He provided multiple emails for me to transfer to although they seem dodgy I thought verified members are more trustworthy and I took the risk. After payment is sent, he blocked me on discord.


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):

Other proof: Really long conversation as had issues with Paypal but can provide upon request.

Edit #1 : Confirmation of user on discord being the same on EpicNPC

Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? Yes on his post
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? Was not provided
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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[Chaosmage27]

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My apologies for the late reply as I was at work when they open this dispute. They are accusing me of being said scammer when in fact they are the scammer themselves and here is proof of them turning themselves in.

First of all I've been a been a member since 2017 and has had nothing but good reviews whether I was selling or buying on the website. I've also taken the liberty of being a verified member and working towards becoming an epic member premium. On that note i've only had the one discord while on the website as you can see from my previous post where I posted them.

So my question to them is what evidence do they have against me saying that I changed discord frequently?

Alright I will now begin proving my innocent and exposing them for who they are.

Exhibit A -

As you can see they added me on discord and then this was our conversation and they are actually this Keithan person that sadly scammed user 汪汪#1736 because as per their request I replied to there comment on my post.

Exhibit B -

As you can see above they clearly stated that I so called blocked them on discord but as you can see from exhibit A it doesn't show that they are blocked in the first screenshot. I also have it so random people can't message me on discord unless we are friends or share a mutual server together and with that in mind they added me and this is how it all started.

Exhibit C -

Here is where they accused me of being this Keithan person. My post was quite popular due to the character roster on the account and more than one person commented on the post. So when they asked me to reply to their comment per their request you can see in exhibit A screenshot two they say that there name on the website is Kinjo.

In conclusion after we finished our conversation they went and scammed someone else and tried using myself as a scapegoat but as you can see above that didn't go so well and they pretty much exposed themselves in an attempt to frame me.

Thank you for your time and I'd be more than happy to answer any other questions that you may have and appreciate you guys taking your time to read this.

(P.S. Another thing I noticed is that from there screenshot there picture is cropped compared to my screenshot where it is unfilter and you can clearly see my discord tag in the bottom left corner to verify that it is me.)

 

[Kinjo2706]

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Interesting argument in trying to impersonate me but if you are who you said you are indeed 'Kinjo', why is the poster of the reply from your own account of 'Chaosmage27' who is a member since 2017 and mine 'Kinjo2706', a recently new member? This invalidates your argument as to your claim of being Kinjo as the original poster of the account, as the seller is Chaosmage27 and the buyer who commented is indeed Kinjo2706. In order to prevent Chaosmage27 to amend his statements and removing messages, I have taken this image as a precaution of his reply above.

Here, you claim in your reply that you are a member since 2017 and has had nothing but good reviews and being all attempts in becoming a verified member. This claims that you are indeed the original poster of the account being sold in which is shown as per below. It also marks that I am the original owner of this account being Kinjo2706 as seen from the logged in account on the top right. (Further images of account being me such as 'my account details' can be provided when required).

As per his other claim above, Chaosmage27 claims that Kinjo is Keithan, but in my recent posts and ongoing posts, I have included my Discord tag alongside it being 汪汪#1736 using my own EpicNPC account of Kinjo2706. In this original dispute as well, I have claimed that I am indeed the owner of 汪汪#1736 Discord and the images provided at the beginning of this thread is sufficient to distinct that I am indeed Kinjo with full disclaimer of the below image of 'My Account' Discord being 汪汪#1736 as per below image.

So far, I have proven that I am indeed Kinjo2706 and will now proceed to initiate further evidence against Chaosmage27. As per seen by the seller's thread, I have commented on his post stating that "$50-75 is what I would do. Only cause..." and at the start of this thread, it shows clearly that the seller, Chaosmage27 aka keithan#3260 first messaged by saying "Hey, $50-75 is a bit low and someone offered him a higher price already. This shows that Chaosmage links to the Discord ID keithan#3260.

Adding on to that, at the start of this thread as well, I have included images which I will include below again for ease whereby "keithan" states that he has "17 feedbacks" and been a "seller since 2017" further showing proof that Chaosmage27 having 17 feedbacks and was an account created in 2017 is definitely him. The image also shows that 'keithan' confirms his Paypal email being '[email protected]' and that I have made payment to him of $70.00 USD.

In this case, I fail to see how the original poster of the account is under 'Chaosmage27' being the seller of the account somehow becomes Kinjo, the buyer of the account when I am the one who comments on this post as myself.

I am fairly disappointed that a EpicNPC verified member is performing such despicable actions and is now claiming to be the victim in this case. Regardless, I am prepared to offer any further substantial evidence claiming that I am indeed Kinjo2706 / 汪汪#1736 . If the person in charge of this case would like, I can further provide receipts and payments made on the day itself as I have sold another account on the same day and payment being paid to my Paypal account will link directly to my discord account login.

In regards to crop-off images the seller claims, that plays no role here as I have other users and information on my PC and this is my own privacy matter.

 

[Chaosmage27]

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I am going to keep this has professional as can be since there is so many things I could say but I won't.

First off I never once insinuated that I was Kinjo at all from my previous statements but you are correct that I am indeed Chaosmage27/Kon on discord.

Secondly you say that you are a new member but as it shows it says you've joined back in 2018 as seen below and I wouldn't consider that being a new member.

Thirdly, so it would seems that you have multiple discord accounts good for you

Fourthly I never posted my discord on said post. So riddle me this, where exactly does it show that my account aka Chaosmage27 is linked to said Discord of Keithan#3260?

Fifthly anyone can make a secondary discord and say anything about anyone and there is no proof that is my PayPal email and any of the admins can easily look through my messages and see that it isn't. I've already talk to a few other mods and sellers and it is not looking to good on your part as you are slowly digging deeper into your grave.

So if you have any other arguments or proof that I am Keithan feel free to enlighten me as I have all the tangible proof I need to verify that I am indeed Chaosmage27 and my one and only discord is Kon#6074.

 

[Kinjo2706]

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To respond to your claim:

Like you said, you never posted your discord on said post, so how did 'keithan' which you claim is me get your discord tag to message you then?

Adding on to that, once again as you say, you can make many other discords and claims, in which this case applies to both of us.

I refuse to continue this and will await an official spokesperson to comment prior to continuing. Do take note of submission ticket #129763.

Thank you.

 

[Angel]

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We do not review discord scams. [email protected] does not match with registrations info that @Chaosmage27 uses here. Please next time avoid discord and use a website chat instead.