Scammer: Shadowkreed94 Trust Who Verified! - Scammed a pally

[fatality327]

Information
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Date that scamming took place: April 19 2010
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: legitnessftfw
Your Instant Messenger ID: fatality328
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: Shadowkreed94
Other information:


Scam Information
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What was scammed?: World of Warcraft account containing 80 Pally & 80 Hunter
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/showthre...nter-PvE-PvP-ID-Repped!?p=2119994#post2119994
Approximate value of scammed property: $300 USD

Was a middleman used?: Yes
If yes, who?: legitnessftfw
Describe how you were scammed: I came home today and I received 2 emails from Blizzard saying for a Password Verification. I went on battle.net to check the account and it sayed my email wasn't registered to the name. I also received this email yesterday but didn't think it was much of a deal. I talked to Shadowkreed94 on AIM and he said he knew that it got recalled. The account was Shadowkreed94's real life friend so he knew that it got recalled. He said he can't do anything about it and was turning the whole thing around me. He was talking to the OO during the whole AIM convo and he didn't do much.
Other details / notes: The OO and Shadowkreed94 are real life friends so not sure if they were up to anything. He insisted in me recalling the account i traded to him. He refuses to give reimbursement aswell. He said the account I traded to him got recalled and he did not tell me about the account got recalled until I confronted him about the pally being recalled.

Proof
Chat Logs: "fatality328 3:50 pm
(3:50:59 PM): yo your friend recalled the acc
legitnessftfw 3:51 pm
(3:51:04 PM): heh
(3:51:06 PM): recall the priest
fatality328 3:51 pm
(3:51:10 PM): dude wtf
legitnessftfw 3:51 pm
(3:51:16 PM): he did it
(3:51:18 PM): i can't stop him
legitnessftfw 3:51 pm
(3:51:31 PM): he's in my vent
fatality328 3:51 pm
(3:51:32 PM): why wtf i thought it was a solid trade i cant just recall the priest
legitnessftfw 3:51 pm
(3:51:41 PM): well i thought so too
(3:51:41 PM): but
(3:51:45 PM): he doesn't like the ton i gave him
fatality328 3:51 pm
(3:51:55 PM): what ton
legitnessftfw 3:52 pm
(3:52:00 PM): some warr
fatality328 3:52 pm
(3:52:17 PM): well dude i cant just recall the priest like wtf you gotta do something
legitnessftfw 3:52 pm
(3:52:24 PM): i can't
(3:52:27 PM): he wont give it back"

Pictures/Screenshots:http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7453/scamp.png


Other proof:

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes (optional)
Have you traded with this person before?: No (optional)

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

Link the rest of the log please?
Where your priest for recalled and I just recently found out, since I didn't have a comp for about 2 weeks, nor is it my responsibility, as to why the OO can recall his account because you gave me a ***** priest?

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

Where's the proof of scam?
Take SS's of the Log please.
Don't hide the fact that your priest got recalled.

 

[fatality327]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

" fatality328 3:52 pm
(3:52:47 PM): ..
(3:53:15 PM): idk man i cant do anything
(3:53:30 PM): i cant recall the priest because its all whored out
legitnessftfw 3:53 pm
(3:53:42 PM): its not whored
(3:53:44 PM): like 1 person has it
fatality328 3:53 pm
(3:53:57 PM): dude its whored
legitnessftfw 3:54 pm
(3:54:02 PM): figured
(3:54:06 PM): u wld give me some **** priest
fatality328 3:54 pm
(3:54:14 PM): wtf?
legitnessftfw 3:54 pm
(3:54:58 PM): that was whored
fatality328 3:55 pm
(3:55:18 PM): yeah im not sure how many other guys had it assuming about 4
fatality328 3:56 pm
(3:56:20 PM): well just because the priest was whored out your not going to get that acc back?
legitnessftfw 3:56 pm
(3:56:26 PM): i can't
(3:56:28 PM): he's OO
(3:56:33 PM): u can't fight the OO
fatality328 3:56 pm
(3:56:47 PM): dude you traded that acc its your responsibility
legitnessftfw 3:56 pm
(3:56:57 PM): no it's not
(3:56:59 PM): he recalls
(3:57:02 PM): it's not my fualt
(3:57:06 PM): i can't give him something i don't have
fatality328 3:57 pm
(3:57:07 PM): you shouldnt have traded it you know he would do that
legitnessftfw 3:57 pm
(3:57:12 PM): he wouldn't
(3:57:13 PM): actually
(3:57:16 PM): but all of a sudden
(3:57:18 PM): he wants his pally
fatality328 3:57 pm
(3:57:28 PM): wtf is that ****
(3:57:35 PM): what am i suppose to do ?
legitnessftfw 3:57 pm
(3:57:48 PM): recall ur ccnt u traded for priest
(3:57:49 PM): or something
fatality328 3:58 pm
(3:58:09 PM): im a get ****ing flamed dude i know you can do something that guy has the pally and a warrior
legitnessftfw 3:58 pm
(3:58:24 PM): no
(3:58:26 PM): he deleted the warr
fatality328 3:58 pm
(3:58:26 PM): your the second owner you should be able to do someting
legitnessftfw 3:58 pm
(3:58:27 PM): /sigh
(3:58:31 PM): not rlly
(3:58:33 PM): i don't have ID
(3:58:35 PM): i can make one
(3:58:38 PM): but not going too
(3:58:40 PM): it'll get banned
(3:58:42 PM): for no reason
fatality328 3:58 pm
(3:58:55 PM): well man i cant do anything
legitnessftfw 3:59 pm
(3:59:06 PM): recall ur priest
(3:59:09 PM): or accnt u traded for priest
fatality328 3:59 pm
(3:59:13 PM): i cant
legitnessftfw 3:59 pm
(3:59:18 PM): ?? why not
fatality328 3:59 pm
(3:59:37 PM): ill have to call in to blizz and go thru like a ****ing 4 hour wait
legitnessftfw 4:00 pm
(4:00:05 PM): 20 minutes
fatality328 4:00 pm
(4:00:05 PM): its bs you shouldnt have traded that acc to me if you were positive that your friend wouldnt have done this ****
legitnessftfw 4:00 pm
(4:00:07 PM): actually
(4:00:13 PM): i was positive
(4:00:14 PM): he wouldnt
(4:00:15 PM): but he did
fatality328 4:00 pm
(4:00:24 PM): well then it is basicly your fault
legitnessftfw 4:00 pm
(4:00:45 PM): not really
fatality328 4:00 pm
(4:00:59 PM): and since you traded me that acc i cant complain to him since its your responsibility to what happens to the acc
legitnessftfw 4:01 pm
(4:01:36 PM): no its not'
(4:01:40 PM): don't ****ing turn this on me
(4:01:43 PM): i'm not OO
(4:01:48 PM): he can recall whenever he wants
(4:01:50 PM): it his account
(4:01:54 PM): he decided
(4:01:57 PM): to be a ******
(4:01:58 PM): and recall
(4:02:02 PM): i can't do anything about that
fatality328 4:02 pm
(4:02:09 PM): you dont understand your liable to whatever happens to it once you trade
legitnessftfw 4:02 pm
(4:02:09 PM): he guareenteed he wouldnt recall
(4:02:10 PM): and he did
(4:02:15 PM): no i'm not
(4:02:17 PM): it's based on u now
(4:02:20 PM): once in ur hands
(4:02:21 PM): it's urs
fatality328 4:02 pm
(4:02:27 PM): yeah but its not fault he recalled
(4:02:40 PM): it cant be all on my hands
(4:02:55 PM): your the one who traded me it so you should deal with it or compensate for something
legitnessftfw 4:03 pm
(4:03:01 PM): lawl
(4:03:02 PM): no
(4:03:04 PM): that's not my prblem
(4:03:08 PM): u had it for about 2-3 weeks
(4:03:12 PM): after the grace period
(4:03:19 PM): it's ur responsibility now
(4:03:24 PM): either get in vent and talk to him
(4:03:25 PM): or something
fatality328 4:04 pm
(4:04:02 PM): well dude i cant do anything so its pretty much you just scammed me out of an acc idk
legitnessftfw 4:04 pm
(4:04:10 PM): no i didn't
(4:04:11 PM): get in vent
(4:04:12 PM): and talk to him
(4:04:15 PM): don't be a ****ing *****
(4:04:17 PM): handle ur own
(4:04:20 PM): it's been 2-3 weeks
(4:04:24 PM): it;s ur problem after that
legitnessftfw 4:04 pm
(4:04:33 PM): u would know if u didnt get rid of everything 2 days after u got it.
(4:04:34 PM): like really.
fatality328 4:05 pm
(4:05:08 PM): im not going to talk to him . you should talk to him even if i had it for 2-3 weeks when theres a problem i come to you because you traded me the acc. i never let anyone on that acc because for one i have an authenticator. and i dont get rid of everything 2 days after thats bs
legitnessftfw 4:05 pm
(4:05:23 PM): k
legitnessftfw 4:14 pm
(4:14:55 PM): he said
(4:14:58 PM): the priest got recalled
(4:15:02 PM): and the warr is bound to get recalled
fatality328 4:15 pm
(4:15:19 PM): if the priest got recalled you should have come to me and i would have talked to the guy I traded it to
legitnessftfw 4:15 pm
(4:15:25 PM): i didn't know
(4:15:26 PM): till now
(4:15:27 PM): lawl?
(4:15:31 PM): i just got home from work
(4:15:33 PM): like 15 min ago
fatality328 4:15 pm
(4:15:53 PM): well if the warrior got recalled that isn't really my fault because i didnt even trade a warrior
legitnessftfw 4:18 pm
(4:18:37 PM): yes
(4:18:40 PM): but u traded a priest
(4:18:42 PM): that got recalled
(4:18:47 PM): which is gonna lead to the warr getting recalled
fatality328 4:18 pm
(4:18:53 PM): i didn't know it got recalled
legitnessftfw 4:18 pm
(4:18:57 PM): exactly
(4:18:59 PM): ur not alone here
fatality328 4:19 pm
(4:19:00 PM): if i knew it got recalled i would have done something
(4:19:13 PM): when did this happen?
legitnessftfw 4:25 pm
(4:25:38 PM): i dont know
fatality328 4:25 pm
(4:25:53 PM): your friend should have told you
legitnessftfw 4:26 pm
(4:26:07 PM): all said and done now
(4:26:13 PM): u cn't get it back for him
fatality328 4:27 pm
(4:27:08 PM): its fine im filling something out
legitnessftfw 4:27 pm
(4:27:16 PM): like?
legitnessftfw 4:28 pm
(4:28:39 PM): what yah filling out?
(4:28:58 PM): i mean if u can't be a man about it
fatality328 4:29 pm
(4:29:16 PM): be a man this has nothing to do about being a man
legitnessftfw 4:29 pm
(4:29:31 PM): yes it does, i show pity to u for trying to fill out a scammer report if that's what ur doing.
fatality328 4:30 pm
(4:30:05 PM): it doesn't matter if you show "pity" it has nothing to do with me not being a man
legitnessftfw 4:30 pm
(4:30:15 PM): i'm gonna fill out my report as well.
(4:30:24 PM): since i don't have access to the priest nor does the person.
(4:30:27 PM): that i traded it to.
fatality328 4:30 pm
(4:30:48 PM): go ahead you didn't inform me about the recall until today and until the pally got recalled
legitnessftfw 4:30 pm
(4:30:53 PM): well
(4:30:55 PM): funny thing is
(4:30:56 PM): i work
(4:30:58 PM): i go to school
(4:31:02 PM): and it got recalled while i was showering.
(4:31:03 PM): so.
fatality328 4:31 pm
(4:31:03 PM): you don't know when that priest got recalled
legitnessftfw 4:31 pm
(4:31:04 PM): heh
(4:31:08 PM): actually
(4:31:10 PM): he told me
(4:31:15 PM): around 2 this afternoon
(4:31:16 PM): HENCE
(4:31:18 PM): the part i work
(4:31:19 PM): and go to school
(4:31:23 PM): and don't get home till 6
(4:31:25 PM): NOR
(4:31:26 PM): were u on
fatality328 4:31 pm
(4:31:46 PM): i am not on because i go to school aswell and since we are on different locations I am 3 hours behind you
legitnessftfw 4:31 pm
(4:31:54 PM): exactly
(4:32:00 PM): so this clearly isn't none of our fualts
(4:32:03 PM): but ur putting this on me
(4:32:07 PM): since u can't get ur priest back
fatality328 4:32 pm
(4:32:08 PM): so 2 today? its about 9 or so here
legitnessftfw 4:32 pm
(4:32:35 PM): nice.
(4:32:38 PM): yes.
(4:32:38 PM): 2.
(4:32:42 PM): he said.
(4:32:46 PM): he had his authen on it
legitnessftfw 4:32 pm
(4:32:48 PM): and bam
(4:32:49 PM): goes to ****
(4:32:51 PM): and he's dc'd
(4:32:53 PM): and can't log on
(4:32:55 PM): not on his email
fatality328 4:33 pm
(4:33:25 PM): well he can't just recall straight from the blue on the pally he should have told you and waited till i was on and i would talk to the guy to who i traded it to
legitnessftfw 4:33 pm
(4:33:34 PM): well
(4:33:34 PM): he can
(4:33:37 PM): he has every right too
(4:33:40 PM): since it's his original account
(4:33:42 PM): AND
(4:33:45 PM): he was accountless
(4:33:46 PM): since
(4:33:49 PM): i wasn't here
fatality328 4:34 pm
(4:34:08 PM): well just because i am accountless too doesn't mean I am going to just random recall account
legitnessftfw 4:34 pm
(4:34:22 PM): well
(4:34:25 PM): it's part of the rules
(4:34:31 PM): if ur recalled on
(4:34:35 PM): u have every right to get ur account back
fatality328 4:35 pm
(4:35:10 PM): dude you gotta talk to the person of whom you traded it too before taking measures like that because you never know if that account has another owner and the whole thing becomes a mess
legitnessftfw 4:35 pm
(4:35:17 PM): YOU
(4:35:21 PM): WASN'T
(4:35:22 PM): ON
(4:35:24 PM): must i repeat?
fatality328 4:35 pm
(4:35:32 PM): thats why. why didn't you wait?
(4:35:48 PM): if you knew something like this would happen you can be a bit more patient next time
(4:35:54 PM): you traded the warrior
legitnessftfw 4:35 pm
(4:35:57 PM): he
(4:35:57 PM): lives
(4:35:58 PM): in
(4:36:00 PM): austr
(4:36:02 PM): hes about
(4:36:04 PM): 9 hours
(4:36:05 PM): behind?
(4:36:12 PM): he waited
(4:36:15 PM): almost a whole day
(4:36:18 PM): to get in contact with u
fatality328 4:36 pm
(4:36:52 PM): well dude he should talk to YOU first and then you talk to me how am i suppose to know if he is the OO of the account on a random AIM message
legitnessftfw 4:37 pm
(4:37:03 PM): he did
(4:37:06 PM): but i msut of
(4:37:08 PM): NOT HAD A COMP
(4:37:09 PM): FOR 2 WEEKS
fatality328 4:37 pm
(4:37:31 PM): uhm that has nothing to do with anything
legitnessftfw 4:37 pm
(4:37:36 PM): actually
(4:37:37 PM): it does
(4:37:39 PM): cusss
(4:37:44 PM): 1 sec
(4:37:45 PM): boss
fatality328 4:38 pm
(4:38:30 PM): 72.37.221.148 26247
legitnessftfw 4:38 pm
(4:38:36 PM): u got my vent info
(4:38:38 PM): u get in when rdy
fatality328 4:41 pm
(4:41:42 PM): he afk
legitnessftfw 4:42 pm
(4:42:34 PM): HIS MIC IS BROKE
(4:42:36 PM): VENT CHAT
fatality328 4:43 pm
(4:43:26 PM): he wont get in chat i have told him to get in chat. either you tell him or something
legitnessftfw 4:43 pm
(4:43:47 PM): ah hes' offline
(4:43:48 PM): weird
(4:43:49 PM): 1 sec
(4:44:08 PM): ah well
(4:44:11 PM): i guess he's afk
legitnessftfw 4:48 pm
(4:48:42 PM): anyways
(4:48:44 PM): fiull it out
(4:48:45 PM): and link
(4:48:47 PM): so i can post my part
(4:48:51 PM): or ill go find it"

You have AIM on your phone on which I have chatted with you this past weekend and I asked you how you are talking to me on AIM and you said over your cell phone. If you have your cell phone you could have still contacted me. It really doesn't matter if I gave you a bad priest you traded me the priest and you never asked me about the previous owners.

Read my original post. I have mentioned that the priest account got recalled.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

legitnessftfw 7:32 pm
(7:32:28 PM): exactly
(7:32:34 PM): so this clearly isn't none of our fualts
(7:32:37 PM): but ur putting this on me
(7:32:41 PM): since u can't get ur priest back
fatality328 7:32 pm
(7:32:42 PM): so 2 today? its about 9 or so here
legitnessftfw 7:33 pm
(7:33:09 PM): nice.
(7:33:11 PM): yes.
(7:33:12 PM): 2.
(7:33:16 PM): he said.
(7:33:19 PM): he had his authen on it
(7:33:21 PM): and bam
legitnessftfw 7:33 pm
(7:33:23 PM): goes to ****
(7:33:25 PM): and he's dc'd
(7:33:27 PM): and can't log on
(7:33:29 PM): not on his email
fatality328 7:33 pm
(7:33:59 PM): well he can't just recall straight from the blue on the pally he should have told you and waited till i was on and i would talk to the guy to who i traded it to
legitnessftfw 7:34 pm
(7:34:07 PM): well
(7:34:08 PM): he can
(7:34:10 PM): he has every right too
(7:34:14 PM): since it's his original account
(7:34:16 PM): AND
(7:34:19 PM): he was accountless
(7:34:20 PM): since
(7:34:22 PM): i wasn't here


fatality328 7:34 pm
(7:34:43 PM): well just because i am accountless too doesn't mean I am going to just random recall account
legitnessftfw 7:34 pm
(7:34:56 PM): well
(7:34:59 PM): it's part of the rules
(7:35:05 PM): if ur recalled on
(7:35:09 PM): u have every right to get ur account back
fatality328 7:35 pm
(7:35:44 PM): dude you gotta talk to the person of whom you traded it too before taking measures like that because you never know if that account has another owner and the whole thing becomes a mess
legitnessftfw 7:35 pm
(7:35:51 PM): YOU
(7:35:55 PM): WASN'T
(7:35:56 PM): ON
(7:35:58 PM): must i repeat?

 

[fatality327]

I have told you on the AIM Log that I wasn't on during this happened because I was at school. Since we are at different parts of the country you must be patient and understand the time differences.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

Ok I did, Explain to where this falls on me, when he recalls cause he couldn't wait?
That clearly has nothing to do with me.
You should have talked to him.

Clearly you haven't yet, so void this.

 

[fatality327]

You keep telling me about "rules" I have checked the WoW USA Accounts Trading Sub-Forum and there are no rules stickied to the thread. You can't just pull random rules when necessary.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

You yourself aren't being patient, since you haven't talked to the person yet.

 

[fatality327]

I don't have the OO's info so since YOU traded me the account YOU should have talked to him first. If there is a problem with an account being recalled you would go to the person who you traded it to. You never know if that person is scamming you or the OO is.

 

[fatality327]

I have gone in vent as you requested and you said he was AFK so theres no way I can talk to him if he is not there.

 

[fatality327]

You traded the Priest account for a warrior and gave the warrior to the OO of this account. You have said that the warrior account got recalled. You should talk to the person of whom you traded the warrior too.

 

[DOHCprodigy]

Banned - failed to resolve scam thread - http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/413066-mmobay-blind1985-aim-blind19851985-4.html

You still don't seem to get it.
I'll let mod's handle it and contact me.

 

[fatality327]

He also says that the Priest account got recalled. The guy who traded me that account is named Cyb123 or Cybelz123 on AIM. I have seen another report on this subforum about another issue and I am not sure if that has anything to do with the priest account.

 

[fatality327]

Update: Shadowkreed has compensated for the account. Gave me another account to hold on to this. Apparently the OO for the Pally told shadowkreed that the Priest got recalled to make an excuse to recall the Pally. Basically the OO was messing with Shadowkreed and shadowkreed was giving me the info that the OO was telling him. It is all good right now just taking this other account for compensation. If anything in the future comes up I will be sure to post here.

 

[TJP]

Closed since resolution seems to have been met.

PM a mod if you need this re-opened.

Thanks