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Banned - failed to resolve multiple scam threads - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/455783-beware-scammer-darknessx-%7C-really-big-scammer-skype-tetsu0jin.html
you do know u have to post some valid proof. Plz also PM me ur MSN cause im doing a MSN convo with this guy and he wants to buy my acc.
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
Hello, getting quite annoyed and sick with this.. harrasment is the only word I can describe it as. We wouldn't purchase Zero_Gravity's account because he didn't have all the information we request when purchasing account. He was missing the following;

- ID Scan
- CD Keys

Because of this we informed him via email that we would not persue the transaction for the above reasons and he could continue to try and sell the account.

We where interested in purchasing the account Darknessx had for sale and sent a Private Message through mmobay appropriatly, he then added me onto msn and we started negotiations. I stated that we will not go first in the majority of circumstances and listed our payment methods and how we would want it to work. WALTECHACCOUNTS has no problem with using an MM however, we feel it is usually not necessary as we feel it effects our profits, however will use an MM if other trader feels necessary. We refused to trade with Darknessx after remarks such as;

Asteris says:
http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-euro...1-000-gold-4x80s-epic-flying.html#post2202176
it says in a post of urs
that u can use a MM or go first
are you lying?

Darknessx then invited his friend, coincidentally both from Greece into the conversation after I told him we wernt interested in trading with. The conversation finished like this.

[email protected] said:
****in scammer
Asteris said:
WALTECH i ll make sure u get banned
so about the admins bla bla bla up ur arss
scammer
[email protected] said:
Call the line about internet crimes also
I called for him
WALTECH ACCOUNTS said:
Anyway I have no interest in communicating further with either of you, good luck in trader. Goodbye.
[email protected] said:
so if we get more Greeks to call them he will go in jail
Asteris said:
bye bye noob
[email protected] said:
**** OFF SCAMMER

I can provide the entire MSN conversation if necessary.


Thanks, Josh.
 
Banned - failed to resolve multiple scam threads - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/455783-beware-scammer-darknessx-%7C-really-big-scammer-skype-tetsu0jin.html
he is not my friend. it happens to be that he and I are from Greece. also another guy said u said to him u wont use a MM so basically when someone tells you to use a MM u say ok and then with a polite way call off the deal. if ur indeed saying the truth then buy my account like u said u would, I have all the required info of it so it shouldnt be a problem.
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
he is not my friend. it happens to be that he and I are from Greece. also another guy said u said to him u wont use a MM so basically when someone tells you to use a MM u say ok and then with a polite way call off the deal. if ur indeed saying the truth then buy my account like u said u would, I have all the required info of it so it shouldnt be a problem.

As far as I am concerned I have seen you go around with your friend Zero_Gravity trying to convince everyone who has traded or spoken with me that WALTECHACCOUNTS scam people and to give me negative feedback on mmobay.
 
Banned - failed to resolve multiple scam threads - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/455783-beware-scammer-darknessx-%7C-really-big-scammer-skype-tetsu0jin.html
lol. ill just stop writing anything about you then, cause as you say there is no way ur a scammer.
one thing. scammers when they know they will get caught end the discussion like you did. u didnt even try convincing me ur not a scammer instead u come here posting that u were just talking politely and all. I had enough of you. I personally would not do any business with you, if anyone else wants to try let them be my guests.
 
Banned - multiple accounts - fake feedback
Just leave him someone else will get scammed and will prove we are right that guy Darkness added me on msn and asked me if u were scammer and then i found that he was Greek also that's all and if i didnt provide enough info on my account! THEN WHY PUT AN AUTHENTICATOR TRY TO RETRIEVE MY MSN PASSWORD MY ACCOUNT PASSWORD AND SENT MAIL TO BLIZZ ****TARD? ****IN SCAMMER !
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
Just leave him someone else will get scammed and will prove we are right that guy Darkness added me on msn and asked me if u were scammer and then i found that he was Greek also that's all and if i didnt provide enough info on my account! THEN WHY PUT AN AUTHENTICATOR TRY TO RETRIEVE MY MSN PASSWORD MY ACCOUNT PASSWORD AND SENT MAIL TO BLIZZ ****TARD? ****IN SCAMMER !

Listen, if you are going to react like this everytime someone doesn't wish to trade with you perhaps Virtual Goods isn't something you should be getting involved with. I ask for information first a precaution, it has nothing to do with a scam.. As I have said before I happy to pay first to a reputable seller or go first if it is a reputable buyer, which you wern't. You didn't provide the information I asked for so I didn't trade with you, it is simple.
 
Banned - multiple accounts - fake feedback
You ****er you changed all my info you could say no deal and change nothing and go retard and you put an authenticator on my account and changed all the info
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
You ****er you changed all my info you could say no deal and change nothing and go retard and you put an authenticator on my account and changed all the info

I think I've explaned more than once, clearly that I emailed you telling you we did not want to continue with the transaction and left the account as you gave it to us. I will have to leave this to the admins on mmobay as we are just going in circles here, and I am not a fan of being abused over a website by a 15 year old child from Greece.
 
Banned - multiple accounts - fake feedback
I purchased this account yesterday evening, however since payment the owner has decided to redeem the account. I understand it is against the EULA of Blizzard to sell the accounts and therefore have been forced to take action in informing you and contacting my banking society to try and redeem the money paid.

Here is the information he provided me with after payment..

Account:[email protected]
Password:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Secret Q:Can't remember
Secret Answer:xxxxxxxxxxxxx
First Name:*******
Last Name:*******
Address:*******
ZIP CODE:*******

WoW Original CD KEY:
WoW TBC CD KEY:
WoW WOTLK CD KEY:

Last 4 of Credit Card:xxxxxxxxxxx

First Email Registered [email protected]
ACCOUNT NAME:*******
Name: *******
Address:

*******
GRC
*******

Note: Some of the info is not written for security reasons.
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
I purchased this account yesterday evening, however since payment the owner has decided to redeem the account. I understand it is against the EULA of Blizzard to sell the accounts and therefore have been forced to take action in informing you and contacting my banking society to try and redeem the money paid.

Here is the information he provided me with after payment..

Account:[email protected]
Password:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Secret Q:Can't remember
Secret Answer:xxxxxxxxxxxxx
First Name:*******
Last Name:*******
Address:*******
ZIP CODE:*******

WoW Original CD KEY:
WoW TBC CD KEY:
WoW WOTLK CD KEY:

Last 4 of Credit Card:xxxxxxxxxxx

First Email Registered [email protected]
ACCOUNT NAME:*******
Name: *******
Address:

*******
GRC
*******

Note: Some of the info is not written for security reasons.

Don't know what to even say to that, we changed no information whatsoever on your account. I understand that you upset that you have gave your information away without receiving payment however we have not acted in anyway using this information. When we left the account it was left with all the original information, so you where able to log on, as far as we are aware the account is untampered with and in your hands.. If your feeling are still sour about the situation and you wish to try discredit me further I will be forced to contact an admin.
 
Banned - multiple accounts - fake feedback
Man quit the bull**** you just tell people you have a company you sell all those Accounts which are prolly stolen by your victims and still you have -2 feedback random ? I don' t think so! well i won't waste my time for **** like you do w/e you want but someone else will come and say ur a scammer then ill be right with proof! And you changed the info Account name and pass aswell my msn's password and info and u still try to steal my password lols.
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
Man quit the bull**** you just tell people you have a company you sell all those Accounts which are prolly stolen by your victims and still you have -2 feedback random ? I don' t think so! well i won't waste my time for **** like you do w/e you want but someone else will come and say ur a scammer then ill be right with proof! And you changed the info Account name and pass aswell my msn's password and info and u still try to steal my password lols.

The accounts I have in stock are purchased legitimatly and the feedback I have recieved is off two people I have never traded with who have a vendetta against WALTONACCOUNTS, please grow up, I will let the admins decide what happens from here on out.

Regards.
 
Banned - failed to resolve multiple scam threads - http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/455783-beware-scammer-darknessx-%7C-really-big-scammer-skype-tetsu0jin.html
Hello Darknessx,

I have explained multiple times why I decided not to buy your account. I wasn't happy with the way you handled your trades unproffesionally also I am no longer interested in purchasing accounts from people based in Greece. You have slated WALTONACCOUNTS name and gave it a bad reputation, we have no interest in communicating or trading with yourself anymore, sorry.

That was a PM he sent me when I asked him if he will make up a name for his company and buy my account using a v trusted MM from mmobay.net.
he never explained to me, keep on lying mate. as for Zero and that u say we have a vendetta against WALTONACCOUNTS (you cant even spell ur own "company" name) i dont even know what ur on about. "people based in Greece". that was something to laugh at.

and all this "I will contact the admin" etc ye ok we got what u said the 1st time. no need to say it whenever u say something like its going to help you in ur favor. i can contact an admin as well u know.
 
Banned - scammer - multiple accounts
Hello Darknessx,

I have explained multiple times why I decided not to buy your account. I wasn't happy with the way you handled your trades unproffesionally also I am no longer interested in purchasing accounts from people based in Greece. You have slated WALTONACCOUNTS name and gave it a bad reputation, we have no interest in communicating or trading with yourself anymore, sorry.

That was a PM he sent me when I asked him if he will make up a name for his company and buy my account using a v trusted MM from mmobay.net.
he never explained to me, keep on lying mate. as for Zero and that u say we have a vendetta against WALTONACCOUNTS (you cant even spell ur own "company" name) i dont even know what ur on about. "people based in Greece". that was something to laugh at.

and all this "I will contact the admin" etc ye ok we got what u said the 1st time. no need to say it whenever u say something like its going to help you in ur favor. i can contact an admin as well u know.



so

still you havent given a valid reason of why not buy my account. MM will be used I insist on that. and the MM knows I bought the acc from OO etc. so thats another thing u should be certain of. many accounts get traded/sold/bought many times over n over again and they are risky.

That is what you sent me through pm, if you wish to post logs, please post the entire log and not just my side or the side which shows the worst in someone. I have been honest with you, Walton is my surname I sometimes get it mixed up, apologies.

Feel free to contact and admin, hopefully they can resolve this issue.
 
Hey guys. =D

First off, "suspecting" someone of being a scammer, does not make him a scammer. Being angry at someone for not buying your account, does not make him a scammer. Ganging up on someone with two other people when said someone refuses to buy your account--simply makes you look like a scammer.

Did you think no one would notice that all three of you left negative feedback for him on the same day? When at least two, and perhaps all three of you, never even did business with him? You cannot leave feedback for someone because they upset your friend. At this point the only rules being broken are being broken by the very people who started this thread.

Post proof or bugger off. This is not a place for you take out your frustrations, and you can't try to get someone banned simply because you don't like them. Or, I suppose, you can technically "try," you'll just fail.

If anything this thread is an example of how broken the feedback system is. Only TWV people should be able to leave feedback, like the good old days, and circumstances like this are the reason why. I can't make heads or tales of the thread, we'll clearly need a translator, but I can see that three people who have not even done any business with someone have given him negative feedback based solely off "suspicion," and general anger. That isn't right, and it's just as easy to boost someone's feedback artificially, making it dangerous in the other way--making people seem trustworthy when they aren't.

Anyway sorry to rant...but it's not like this thread was going anywhere anyway. I just want to see things be slightly more safe where they can be, and feedback is definitely one of those places that could use a tweak.
 
Im sorry, you cannot leave feedback for someone when you didn't make any exchange. Simply talking to them does not warrant feedback. No proof or really anything that was clear as to what happened has been posted, so Im closing this.
 
You don't need to be scamed to know some1 is scammer, as for "friends" part .. for me and probably other 3 people, i never had contact with them in my life. And for "you are frustrated because you've been turned down for selling your account" , i can say i've been turned down quite few times now and didn't post here or got "angry". You people are so wrong if you think we would gang as "friends" on one guy. It's better to prevent then heal.
 
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