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neostar2

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Date that scamming took place: ex; June 10th 2010
Method of Contact Used:Aim (i was using trillian)
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: [email protected]
Your Instant Messenger ID: shane youngcliss
MMOBAY Account of Scammer: Izual69
Other information:


Scam Information
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What was scammed?: 65 dollars cash.
Link of trade thread: http://vbforums.mmobay.net/wow-usa-accounts-auctions-buy-sell/387698-selling-2-lvl-80s-64-80%24-obo.html#post2189862
Approximate value of scammed property: $65.00 USD

Was a middleman used?: no
If yes, who?:
Describe how you were scammed: First he asked for paypal payment in a unusual way. Then claimed i was going to chargeback him and couldnt give me sqa for 24 hours. 24 hours pass I send him an im no response. Then trick him with a different aim account and long behold he fell for it. Gave him 5 minutes to respond and give up sqa. And never did.
Other details / notes: Seemed like an honest legit person. Not like usual scammers but don't be fooled!

Proof
Proof You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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Chat Logs:
Session Start (sjydude3:[email protected]): Thu Jun 10 22:12:36 2010 -0400
shane youngcliss: hello. im contacing you about your warrior/pally. can i see the origional wowarmory?
[email protected]: hey
[email protected]: first
[email protected]: how are you paying
[email protected]: paypal / western union?
shane youngcliss: paypal. im verified
[email protected]: on paypal
[email protected]: credit / bank / balance
shane youngcliss: correct
[email protected]: which one
shane youngcliss: ill be sending gift.
[email protected]: type of funding
[email protected]: credit / bank / balance
[email protected]: which one
shane youngcliss: bank
[email protected]: do you agree to open / close claim?
shane youngcliss: if i send as gift a claim cant be opened.
[email protected]: i want as a payment owed
[email protected]: not gift
[email protected]: correct or no?
shane youngcliss: and your going to put a claim on my money? why not just send it to your bank if you dont trust a repped user?
[email protected]: have something wrong sending payment as owed or?
[email protected]: + post on my thread if you claim to be verified
[email protected]: otherwise lets keep talking
shane youngcliss: i did post
shane youngcliss: im neostar2
[email protected]: lemme check
[email protected]: 1 feedback
[email protected]: dont call that trusted but its a start
[email protected]: k the armory sec
[email protected]: (Link: The World of Warcraft Armory - @ - Profile
[email protected]: (Link: The World of Warcraft Armory - @ - Profile
[email protected]: (Link: The World of Warcraft Armory - @ - Profile
shane youngcliss: been a user for a while though. which is why i called myself repped. and ive never had a bad transaction on playerauctions/ebay.
shane youngcliss: k looking at armorys one second
shane youngcliss: alright looks good. is there any time on the accounts?
[email protected]: yes it is
[email protected]: till october 19
shane youngcliss: any gold/emblems?
[email protected]: not really
shane youngcliss: would you take 65?
shane youngcliss: brb restroom
[email protected]: sure
shane youngcliss: ok back. alright sounds good to me. whats your paypal e-mail?
[email protected]: *edit*
[email protected]: send payment as a payment owed
[email protected]: 65
[email protected]: with this note : i am paying for a item i already received.
[email protected]: otherwise claim/cancel it
[email protected]: in 2 days
[email protected]: i only had scammers so kinda tired
shane youngcliss: alright. i know the feeling too. ive been scammed before as well
shane youngcliss: when i sold my first account i fell for the easiest paypal scam in the book. now i just ask to send as gift. never had problems.
[email protected]: just send money as a payment owed
[email protected]: with this note : i am paying for a item i already received
[email protected]: *edit*
[email protected]: :)
shane youngcliss: sent
[email protected]: lemme check
[email protected]: 1 more favor
[email protected]: can you take a pic
[email protected]: of the payment from your point of view
[email protected]: so i can see you payed as a payment owed?
shane youngcliss: sure no problem
[email protected]: & just upload it on imagehost
[email protected]: im getting the acc ready
[email protected]: while you do that
shane youngcliss: now i read you had cdkeys? id like a screenshot instead of mailing to my address.
[email protected]: i will mail
[email protected]: as this will cut scammers
[email protected]: & take 2-3 days to arrive
[email protected]: & if i get a chargeback scam
[email protected]: i will see it coming before the 2-3 days & cancel the tracking
[email protected]: thats what people told me to maximize security
shane youngcliss: yup or you can just send the cdkeys 2-3 days from now. as long as i get the sqa its not a rush.
[email protected]: take a picture please
[email protected]: *edit*
shane youngcliss: *edit*
shane youngcliss: that what your looking for?
[email protected]: the payment detail
[email protected]: to verify its as a payment owed
shane youngcliss: the transaction details? that doesnt say payment owed on it. it just says if its completed or not
[email protected]: where can i verify that
[email protected]: :O
[email protected]: im lost on paypal from what i see now
shane youngcliss: to be honest? im not sure. ive bought about 25 accounts and never paid this way before. umm lemme check the e-mail maybe it says there
[email protected]: ok ok
[email protected]: account name : *edit*
[email protected]: pw : *edit*
[email protected]: if in 2-3 when the box arrive
[email protected]: im not chargebacked
[email protected]: i will provide sqa
[email protected]: good?
[email protected]: in time go explore the toon & everything
[email protected]: :)
shane youngcliss: umm no i want sqa now. cdkeys i can wait no rush on that.
[email protected]: will give sqa tomorow
[email protected]: in 24 hour
[email protected]: cuz if i give sqa & you chargeback
[email protected]: im ****ed
[email protected]: give it at least 24 hour
shane youngcliss: uhh no your not.
[email protected]: how
[email protected]: with sqa i heard you can recover the acc
[email protected]: easy
shane youngcliss: you can just recall the account back. you have the cd keys correct?
[email protected]: yes i do
[email protected]: to prove i have the sqa
shane youngcliss: thats all you need.
[email protected]: i can change email
[email protected]: in front of you
[email protected]: while your logged
[email protected]: or just recover the pw
[email protected]: i just wanna wait 24 hour
[email protected]: to clear the payment please ok?
[email protected]: in time just log on the account
[email protected]: & the time will pass quick
shane youngcliss: no i want the sqa now. you can get your account back and how can i charge back when its completed?
[email protected]: payment is already completed
[email protected]: just wait 24 hour
[email protected]: im not risking my only legit transaction
[email protected]: with the first person
[email protected]: who is not a chinesse scammer
shane youngcliss: ughh i should of knew something was fishy about this. either give me the sqa or im reporting you as a scammer and your mmobay account will be banned. its not an unreasonable request.
[email protected]: wait 24 hour
shane youngcliss: no
[email protected]: or im refunding in 30 min
[email protected]: & cancelling this
[email protected]: cuz you are probably rushing me
[email protected]: with a stolen paypal
[email protected]: like 99% of people
shane youngcliss: then refund now. im sorry im not getting scammed.
[email protected]: k
shane youngcliss: or just give me the sqa its not an unreasonable request
[email protected]: i am refunding
[email protected]: you dont wanna wait 24 hour
[email protected]: if you think im scamming
[email protected]: i suggest at least you login in the acc first
shane youngcliss: not without the sqa sorry. im not rushing i didnt rush the damn payment i was willing to wait for it to clear. it cleared theres no way i can recall the money.
[email protected]: try to be me
[email protected]: what guarantee you wont call paypal
[email protected]: & ask a refund?
[email protected]: or call bank???
shane youngcliss: try to be you? i know ive been scammed before ive given away my sqa before. all you do is call is blizzard tell them you were hacked and give them your vanilla cd key. they will make sure i never log on the account again
[email protected]: thats what you think
[email protected]: you will just call paypal in 15 min
[email protected]: & tell them you dont have the item
[email protected]: paf chargebacked
shane youngcliss: and say what? i already put on there im paying for something i recieved already.
[email protected]: just wait 10 mi
[email protected]: min*
[email protected]: im cleaning my laptop fan & will refund
[email protected]: problem solved
shane youngcliss: /sigh. why not refund now?
shane youngcliss: nvm ill wait 24 hours. **** it. what do i have to lose. you already have my money.
shane youngcliss: ill take your word for it. get back to me in 24 hours or im reporting you. thanks
[email protected]: "[email protected] ([email protected])" signed off at Thu Jun 10 23:04:46 2010.
[email protected]: "[email protected] ([email protected])" signed on at Thu Jun 10 23:04:57 2010.
shane youngcliss: so what you going to do?
shane youngcliss: ill wait 24 hours ok? i just want a response.
[email protected]: k
[email protected]: i was cleaning my laptop cpu fan
[email protected]: wanna log in the account meanwhile?
[email protected]: its should be the minimum coming from me
shane youngcliss: yeah i have info. get back to me 10ish tommorow?
[email protected]: k
[email protected]: il repeat info
[email protected]: *edit*
[email protected]: *edit*
shane youngcliss: sorry it just seemed a little off to me. but if you follow through on sqa tmrw idc. cd key i can wait whenever. id like a screenshot of that though. im not giving my address out.
[email protected]: k
[email protected]: im online all day
[email protected]: just give me a heads up
[email protected]: after 5h00
[email protected]: or before k?
shane youngcliss: after 5?
[email protected]: well its 11h30 pm here
[email protected]: around 3h00 pm
[email protected]: pm me ill give sqa
[email protected]: & the deal will finalize with cd key
[email protected]: good?
shane youngcliss: same time here. so what time is that our time
[email protected]: 3h00 pm
[email protected]: im eastern
[email protected]: pm me from any time past that
shane youngcliss: same so 3. alright ill get back to you.
[email protected]: kk
[email protected]: by the time
[email protected]: do me 1 favor
[email protected]: explore the account
[email protected]: should relax you
shane youngcliss: k ill get back to you. later
[email protected]: got a 3$?
shane youngcliss: +
[email protected]: ?
[email protected]: can you help me with 2.40 canadien only?
[email protected]: "[email protected] ([email protected])" signed off at Fri Jun 11 02:47:23 2010.
[email protected]: "[email protected] ([email protected])" signed on at Fri Jun 11 12:40:02 2010.
shane youngcliss: umm why are you bumping your topic when i had purchased the account?
[email protected]: i bumped my steam topic
[email protected]: no?
shane youngcliss: no. you had bumped the warrior/pally.
[email protected]: my bad then
[email protected]: i bumped all my thread
[email protected]: ill edit it out soon
shane youngcliss: np was just curious
[email protected]: hey my paypal got limited
[email protected]: ill get the funds on my friend paypal
[email protected]: just do a dispute & ill do a full refund
[email protected]: so you can resend the funds k?
shane youngcliss: soso let me guess. i have to wait another 24 hours after all this for the sqa?
[email protected]: ill give @ 3h00
[email protected]: just do a dispute & ill refund
shane youngcliss: alright fine. disputing
shane youngcliss: cant dispute it.
shane youngcliss: "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
[email protected]: god sec
shane youngcliss: umm you can try sending it to your friends paypal. and just stick it from there
[email protected]: yea
shane youngcliss: or request a check from paypal.
[email protected]: kk
shane youngcliss: mmkay its 3. willing to gimme sqa now?
shane youngcliss: lemme know when your back
shane youngcliss: hello? are you here?
shane youngcliss: reporting you as a scammer then. because you just answered my other aim account. bumped a thread i had already purchased and refuse to give me sqa and answer multiple ims.
shane youngcliss: shame it has come to this.
shane youngcliss: giving you one last chance to reply giving you 2 minutes.
Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.

Seperate Aim answer:
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the trade?: Yes couldnt find anything bad on him.
Have you traded with this person before?: No (optional)
Approximately how many trades have you done on MMOBAY?: about 6 never had a problem.
 
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Banned - Scammer
first screenshot i posted. i sent an im on mrs.apachai asking if the account was still for sale and he said yeah post in my thread. this was while he refused to answer me about the sqa. Which proves he was avoiding me. I then confronted him after and he didn't respond even after giving him multiple chances to reply.

*edit* I also tried the information he supplied me and he had changed the password. If you want screenshots of that I can supply them via pm. I just want to protect his info even though he fraudulently scammed me outta 65 bucks.
 
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Banned - Scammer
wont let me edit my last post now so updating. He contacted me back about 20 minutes ago stating that his paypal was unverified and he cant take the money out. I told him to take a check he refused. He asked that i call paypal and request a refund and to make sure to say that he agrees to refund. I did they gave me instructions. Told him instructions and he hasnt gotten back to me yet. Ill let you know if he ends up responding and refunding and i'll take back everything I said about him. But I want my money back no account. I just get really bad vibes from this person.
 
He actually told me over aim that his account was locked


Friday, June 11, 2010
[email protected] (6:39:57 PM): can i ask you something?
[email protected] (6:40:13 PM): ???
Maskofdj17 (7:25:54 PM): yea
[email protected] (7:44:26 PM): k
[email protected] (7:44:29 PM): someone payed me on paypal
[email protected] (7:44:33 PM): & im paypal limited cuz of him
Maskofdj17 (7:45:27 PM): what is paypal asking u to do
[email protected] (7:45:33 PM): i received a payment
[email protected] (7:45:36 PM): from a member from mmobay
[email protected] (7:45:37 PM): & im limited
[email protected] (7:45:40 PM): account closed
[email protected] (7:45:43 PM): due to high risk
Maskofdj17 (7:45:47 PM): hmm
[email protected] (7:45:53 PM): this neo guy
Maskofdj17 (7:45:54 PM): how u ever been banned before
[email protected] (7:45:58 PM): ?
Maskofdj17 (7:46:01 PM): on paypal
[email protected] (7:46:05 PM): its my first time
Maskofdj17 (7:46:17 PM): call them n try to work it out w them
[email protected] (7:46:26 PM): they just told me
[email protected] (7:46:30 PM): we dont wanna do buisness with you again
[email protected] (7:46:34 PM): that kid just ****ed me up
[email protected] (7:46:38 PM): & want my wow account info now
[email protected] (7:46:41 PM): when i told him 24 hour
[email protected] (7:46:47 PM): & my paypal got limited this morning
Maskofdj17 (7:46:48 PM): hmm
Maskofdj17 (7:47:23 PM): this one http://vbforums.mmobay.net/scammers/[email protected]
[email protected] (7:47:35 PM): yea
[email protected] (7:47:36 PM): exactly
[email protected] (7:47:37 PM): & i can show
[email protected] (7:47:40 PM): the paypal screen
Maskofdj17 (7:47:56 PM): yes please post that on on the site
Maskofdj17 (7:48:01 PM): u can block out ur last name
[email protected] (7:48:02 PM): what should i post
Maskofdj17 (7:48:14 PM): thats up to ya
[email protected] (7:48:22 PM): i mean ill end up banned
[email protected] (7:48:26 PM): cuz i didnt give him info
[email protected] (7:48:31 PM): but he made my paypal limited at the same time
[email protected] (7:48:34 PM): its a tricky situation
Maskofdj17 (7:48:53 PM): i normally dont deal w scammer threads lol
[email protected] (7:49:04 PM): srsly what should i do
Maskofdj17 (7:49:33 PM): u can post a copy of ur paypal screen showing ur limited since u got payment from him
 
Banned - Scammer
ahh what hes been telling me is that hes limited about sending money. because he isnt verified. this is the first time i heard that he got banned. His claim has been the whole time that he cant recieve the money and doesnt want to request a check.
 
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Banned - Scammer
alright we both agreed to wait a week. if within the week he doesn't send me a refund hes a scammer. Otherwise I will take back everything I said and request this thread be deleted. Getting him to reply to topic to confirm. and heres chat logs for proof:

shane youngcliss: back or?
[email protected]: back
[email protected]: having some router issue
[email protected]: so i gotta verify my account?
shane youngcliss: having some issues myself computer reset on me
shane youngcliss: umm yeah or you can go into the transaction details and theres a send refund button there.
shane youngcliss: your paypals banned?
[email protected]: so fars
[email protected]: seems like
[email protected]: after your payment
[email protected]: but lemme try
[email protected]: give me a sec
[email protected]: im logging
shane youngcliss: well an admin posted on my thread. that you contacted him and said your paypal was banned. an d no problem. im not trying to be a dickhead at all.
[email protected]: You cannot refund a payment right now because access to your account has been limited.
[email protected]: guess ill hard to call them
[email protected]: ill have to call*
shane youngcliss: account has been limited. hmm ive never heard of that. you mean like a spending limit? becuase you arent verified?
[email protected]: its limited complete
[email protected]: ill have to call them tomorow
[email protected]: can you wait till tomorow?
shane youngcliss: yeah give them a call i got nowhere. and ill think of a solution. you said you were in the processes of getting verified?
[email protected]: yea i am
[email protected]: bank got added this morning
[email protected]: i dont wanna wait till monday
[email protected]: its not professional
shane youngcliss: ok what about this. they usually give you a week before banning you and ill specially say that ill wait a week. or until your verifed. then just refund my money and ill drop it. sound fair?
[email protected]: yes
[email protected]: im uploading picture second
[email protected]: http://j.imagehost.org/0279/picturesss.png
[email protected]: ima call them tomorow & just ask them to refund you
[email protected]: they should be able
shane youngcliss: ive never seen that before. hmm call em.
shane youngcliss: if your verified monday tuesday whatever., you already have my money i have nothing to lose by waiting. and it sounds fair
[email protected]: k
[email protected]: now im just piss
[email protected]: cuz this thing
[email protected]: made me banned on keyhunt
[email protected]: where im trying to sell my 2 4's digit
[email protected]: guess ill have to do alot of contact
shane youngcliss: alright. sounds fair to me. letting mmobay know. get back to me tommorow on how the call went.
 
Banned - Scammer
he hasnt been on since then. he said he was going to give me my money back monday.He was also banned from keyhunt for scamming shortly after. He's a scammer.
 
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