Scammed

[Osmanik]

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Good day. I was 100% scammed by this person https://www.epicnpc.com/members/johnmarket.630659/. Even more one more person was scammed this evening. He wrought report too on this scammer. I added him on skype. We got a deal and after he just begins to wright some idiotic things with fake screens on which he is texting with me on discord about some BTC withdraw. For aprove my dispute i can add muh more screen and i can give you my acc on discord and skype for you to check that i`m right. And there even no transactions on 378$ on that wallet that he sent fakescreen with this trade me on steam and in pm on this forum. I believe that you will do as much as possible. Even if he is moderator he cant do things like this. Cause it will cost to much high for the reputation of your FORUM.

 

[JohnMarket]

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this is my discord JohnMarket Gondrong <<< seem this guys is Trade or deal with Imposter,, my skype already noted on my profile and my detail too, please be carefull when add and make sure to confirm via forum chat first Sir

 

[Osmanik]

 

[JohnMarket]

 

[JohnMarket]

 

[Osmanik]

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as u texted on your topic u never add people first. But this acc which you are showing now, added me on skype. After JohnMarket did some fake on discord. I dont have this converstation with JohnMarket in discord. My Discord is Osman#0443. I think this screen is just a fake. No transaction like he showed on this screens wasn`t on this evening.

 

[JohnMarket]

 

[JohnMarket]

this is whole SS i was trade with ossaydametov#9494

 

[Osmanik]

Oh JohnMarket jut did my work. These are all fake text which he did while he scamming me. To say that that was an imposter. This is ry funny. I`ll repeat again. NO TRANSACTION ON BTC WALLET WHICH YOU SHOWED ON YOUR SCREEN. So this cant be truth. I hope moderators will help me to get back all keys or money.

 

[Osmanik]

What is registration date of that fake acc?) which you called ossaydametov#9494

 

[JohnMarket]

 

[JohnMarket]

have no idea when this acc was registered,

 

[Osmanik]

And now the finally thing which will approve that he is a scammer. On this wallet no transaction on 378$ from 20:22(GMT+3) 11.03.2021 then he scammed me and Made the correspondence with some kind of fake to deceive you administration. Let him show the screen with a transfer of funds in the amount of 378$, which at that time at the rate was like 56500( 200keys*1.89$=378$/56500$=0.0066902. Almost every screen he sent to me was the fake. You can look by yourself on this website that where were no transaction from that time till now on this 378$. I will repeat that I can give access to all my accounts from which I corresponded with him. And there it will be a very clear that he is deliberately misleading people. But this time he got the wrong one and the time for payoff has come. I believe that administration will do the right things to stop it.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Osmanik go to the skype profile you were talking to, right click > view profile > scroll down to skype name, and take a screenshot. Post here.

 

[Osmanik]

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@Osmanik go to the skype profile you were talking to, right click > view profile > scroll down to skype name, and take a screenshot. Post here.

Good evening. I was scammed with his fake account. Which belong to him. As approve I'm adding one more screen there this fake Skype account is giving to me his steam account to get trade with, he misled me with his own fake skype, it is proved by the fact that in the correspondence with the fake in the discord that he created for scam, the first message was written on 08/01/2021. And I wrote to him for the first time on 03/10/2020 on Skype, which I can also provide in the form of screenshots, or I will give access to my accounts to confirm my words. I, out of my inattention and carelessness, made a deal with a fake. But he himself proves that this fake belongs to him by this discord correspondence. And most importantly, there was no transaction on a bitcoin wallet, which most likely also belongs to him.

 

[JohnMarket]

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first of all i will explaint this again from start

1. this discord guy with name ossaydametov#9494 already add me since 01/08/2021 (probabaly the discord name is not ossaydametov in first time added me on those date, but iam not sure i got alot of added new FL daily)






2. and then 03/11/2021 ossaydametov#9494 this guy want to sell tf2 (NOTED the deal is on discord not in skype) pic no 2 he want me confirm on forum and he say hes user name on epicnpc is https://www.epicnpc.com/members/osmanik.1283983/



3. and deal trade about 200tf key 328$ worth btc moreless, https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1CX4SCrvjsbUmosB2LAB1ZmZk7kS2SRk7F this is the link of blockchain


4. and then Osman#0443 come to the discord and blame me about he got scamed, ( at this point i have no idea what he talking about he say i was trade with him on Skype but i see i dont have any history chat with him before)




i thing my conclusion is mr Osmanik was trade with imposter and then the imposter is forwarding the chat to me, if need anything else please contact me iam open for discussion any time

 

[Osmanik]

What the date and the time of transaction? . Are you jocking?

 

[JohnMarket]

What the date and the time of transaction? . Are you jocking?

3/12/2021 12:28 AM +7 Jakarta time Sir, you can see on the bottom, those transaction was in coinbase wallet

 

[Osmanik]

3/12/2021 12:28 AM +7 Jakarta time Sir, you can see on the bottom, those transaction was in coinbase wallet

Show me please this transaction here, because your screen is a fake. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1CX4SCrvjsbUmosB2LAB1ZmZk7kS2SRk7F?_type=address

 

[JohnMarket]

iam not sure what is blockchair.com stuff iam not expert on btc thing, but if u ask detail full screenshot of coinbase this is real one and cant be fake Sir

 

[Osmanik]

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Even if you believe that I was deceived by a fake that is not his, then how, a minute before John Market, gives his steam profile to the same fake, but in discrod. Where does a fake who is not his own can have information about his steam profile where he will need to transfer the keys?
And if I got caught on a fake that has to do with John Market, then why would he even give the steam account of the real John Market.

 

[JohnMarket]

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1. iam not sure how, but its seem time dilation about 0-1 minute when taking SS, and its different chat apps + different time and country maybe got slightly delay few second
2. he give my steam maybe he just forwarding the skype chat, but iam not sure tho

the only i know in here is i was deal with ossaydametov#9494 (on discord) + i already mention on forum chat that i was chat in discord not in skype Sir + those skype user is not mine, iam sorry but seems u are being impostered from discord Sir

 

[Osmanik]

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1. iam not sure how, but its seem time dilation about 0-1 minute when taking SS, and its different chat apps + different time and country maybe got slightly delay few second
2. he give my steam maybe he just forwarding the skype chat, but iam not sure tho

the only i know in here is i was deal with ossaydametov#9494 (on discord) + i already mention on forum chat that i was chat in discord not in skype Sir + those skype user is not mine, iam sorry but seems u are being impostered from discord Sir

1. Maybe in some other universe, not in our.
2. we had a discord correspondence that began on 03/10/2020 in which I indicated that I was Ossaydametov on Skype. And that we have a deal with you. After which you start a correspondence with the account that you renamed under my nickname in Skype on 03/11/2021. Because on 03/10/2021 we have not yet agreed with you due to the fact that we did not want to go first. And only on 03/11/2021 I studied all the reviews and the reputation of his account and decided that I could trust him. I repeat once again that I can provide access to all accounts for joint examination.

 

[JohnMarket]

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03/10/2021 i was confirm that we never do any chat on skype

this is my only chat with livessaydametov (skype)

this is my second konfirmation that i never chat with livessaydametov (skype) from discord

NOTE: iam not the owner of guys with skype display name live:mrgondrong789 skype name is live:mrgondronq789 << G alphabet is Q he impostered me

my only skype is JohnMarket Gondrong skype name is live:mrgondrong789

 

[Osmanik]

I already said about that I massaged with impostor as I understand after, but the thing is John Market is a real imposter. What for impostor will copy allmoust every my massage from Skype? I don't think that I'm first person which he scammed. He already got feedback with scam massage which approved. I handed over the things and handed them over to John Market. And he, in turn, tricked him into transferring money to his own account to confirm that he was not a scammer.

 

[Osmanik]

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And by the way look at this timing you didn't answer me on discord. Until u got scammed me.
message at 18:06(now he corrected it)at the end it was written that he would answer on Skype in 30 minutes, and at 18:40 he wrote me in fake Skype and only after the scam was successfully passed John Market wrote from the one that he claims to be real, and not fake.
I believe that administrator will take right decisions. I understand that some kind of my fault is here, but I think I already proved that this both accounts on Skype belongs to John Market.

 

[JohnMarket]

edited at 11/02/2021 11:08 PM (1-2 minute after send chat) at those point probably i was typo some sort of single alphabet ussally to correct single word,

Sir Osmanik i understand what you feel and concert about it, but our bussiness is base on trust, we already do long history on EPICNPC and never ever do such imposter thing on our history of bussines, but imposter always there its happen alot too on another trusted people, once again iam sorry i understand your feeling and concern about it but i cant do anything at this situation about u getting impostered, all i can do is just reminder and write in my profile about those scamer, which is actualy already done long time ago, but some people still not carefull about it...

 

[Osmanik]

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edited at 11/02/2021 11:08 PM (1-2 minute after send chat) at those point probably i was typo some sort of single alphabet ussally to correct single word,

Sir Osmanik i understand what you feel and concert about it, but our bussiness is base on trust, we already do long history on EPICNPC and never ever do such imposter thing on our history of bussines, but imposter always there its happen alot too on another trusted people, once again iam sorry i understand your feeling and concern about it but i cant do anything at this situation about u getting impostered, all i can do is just reminder and write in my profile about those scamer, which is actualy already done long time ago, but some people still not carefull about it...

You may not have been a scammer before, but in one evening, John Market scammed two at least. These are the ones who wrote to the forum. If John Market says he can write about this scammer on his page. But why didn't he do it earlier, he himself writes that this fake has been working for a long time. So I'm not the first one who got on it. Again, this fake belongs to John Market. Just like that fake discord named for that ossaydametov#9494. 11.03.2021 18:07 account which you are saying yours from Skype added me on Skype right after you said at discord that you will answer me on Skype in 30 min. And I thought that this account is scam I did screen and send it to that Skype live:Mr.gondronq, and he said that it's not him after I banned that Skype account and we continue to chat in Skype. And only after John Market skammed me he posted that picture at discord that this one is his real account. As John Market said on his page that he is not adding first but he did on Skype with my account right then scamming me. to mislead me and in the case of opening a dispute to the Administration. I am waiting for a response from the Administration. Thank.

 

[Osmanik]

how did he add me from his real skype, if I conducted a dialogue with a fake and the fake is not himself? and why did he continue

 

[JohnMarket]

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first we only cant add first on Discord because discord has maximum 1k FL when able to add, but only can accept FL (not in skype) already noted on my profile too


i contact you on skype because you say me that you already chat me on skype, thats weird because in skype as like SS show we never did chat before (disclaimer we only cant add people on discord first "reason is 1k++ FL already")

 

[Osmanik]

,,Note: I never ADD Someone first, if that happen that's definitely an imposter,,

So what should we believe?
Waiting for administration.

 

[JohnMarket]

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did i add you on Discord first? no right? the one we cant ADD first is on Discord sir

we only chat you on skype (yes i can add on skype first) Because u notif me on Discord chat you already chat on skype (iam doubleing confirmation by show you the chat empty on skype)

 

[Angel]

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We do not investigate discord disputes

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/discord-scams-we-will-no-longer-review-scam-reports.1533996/

Please stop using discord and contact members ONLY on the website