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SCAMMED for 700 dollars and pretended to be inocent with proof!

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Dispute Type
Scam Accusation
Country
United States
Multiple Accounts
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Dispute Against
govanni023
Information
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Purchase Date:

May 8, 2022​

Date the problem began:

May 11, 2022​

Method of Contact Used (chat program):EPIC NPC
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: govanni023
Your Instant Messenger ID: Helloaplayer

Other information: took the account back changed information


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/dcuo-account-eupc-688sp-with-og-plasmic.2221486/#post-8331832
Approximate value of property: $717 usd
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? https://www.epicnpc.com/members/angel.393966/

What is the dispute about? took the account back changed information

Other details / notes: so i bought the account and after 3 days the information was changed and pretended to be a victim as well and i believed him and guess what later on i have another seller name
LuFer4 and i wanted to buy from him but i couldn't because i loss the account that i was planning to resell so out of the kindness of his heart and because he doesn't like scammers as well he help me out
and pretended that he was looking for a account to buy that had literally the same description as the account i bought and eventually i saw that the account govanni023 was trying to sell was the same account with the changed information




Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): this is just a chat were he pretended to be a victim as well...
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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): this is my payments proofs
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(and it was under friends and family)

Other proof:
this is the account that i bought and this is even the video the MM showed me :
https://d.pr/v/aHyzpc

and this is the account he tried to sell to LuFer4:
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As you can see it has the same crown same aura and the skill points is literally 1 point off so he could had just increase it a bit and same power set which is gadget even the character body type is the same


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

(i havent even entered the account other than the day i buy it then after wards it was just locked and all information was changed )

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 
Banned - Scammer
Hello ,

As ive said before i wasnt the original owner to the account and the guy i left it on i gave him positivve feedback because he didnt scam me. later on i saw that he scammed someone and had a negative feedback from someone and i even showed u that after because i didnt knew that either. And now yes that Lufer4 guy asked me if i was selling an OG plasmic account and i can even show proof that i told him NO because the account allready was sold. 2 days later i sended him an pm because a friend of mine is selling his account aswell and since he has og plasmic i thought it was a good idea to show that lufer4 guy that account so maybe he would buy it. i can also show proof of that account frommy friend that it is not the same account and i allready told you that @Helloaplayer in your dm aswell. it has another character ( female ) with alot of sp and good artifacts aswell which the account i sold to you did not have. as to why the character is the same build and also has the crown , 85% of the online players are that small male and have the crown. that aint an excuse to accuse me of something like this. Now as ive said i can show proof that it is an whole different account and not the one i sold to you.
 
OK literally same power set sp is just 1 off same body type and style at the same time at least make a effort changing the looks and also in the video there is a female alt character with high stats.
 
Banned - Scammer
the female character in my account was cr 368 or ce 369 yeah but it had around 102sp with no artifacts
 
Banned - Scammer
the female character in this account from what ive seen has 160 artifacts and atleast 680sp so thats more then what mine had
 
Banned - Scammer
the style u see in that picture is a style i never use , yeah the power is gadgets as is 95% of the dps comunity because it is the best power
 
Banned - Scammer
and if u would log on to dcuo rightnow , out of 50 male characters u will se atleast 35 that are short and have comical
 
Banned - Scammer
all what ive said i can proof so , all i gotta do is log on to his account and i can show that nothing is the same as the account i sold to you because it is not the same account
 
OK only one way to prove it send a video in one take no cuts of you switching in and out between the two alts and the stats must be the same account you showed lufer and one more thing after you do the this there's one more video I'll ask and if you prove both I'll gladly take a ban my self for false accusation but I can't say what the second video is because it will be a set up for the first if you were a scamer. But if not then you should not worry.
 
Show the whole process of logging on so we can make sure the username is not the same as the one you "sold" me and also the account you showed lufer must have the same stat in the screen shot and even the style I dint want you randomly using s different account in the video and it must have the high level female alt as well all this in one take so there's no edit
 
Banned - Scammer
im willing to do that yeah , but there is just 1 problem with what it is u want with 1 video and no cuts etc at all
 
Banned - Scammer
if i record everything , the username and the name of the main and the alt character ( male and female ) once anyone knows those 3 things and as u know that account is for sale also , only thing thats gotta happen is someone that reads this makes a ticket at the website and then the account is banned.
 
Banned - Scammer
just for that reason i will not and even cant show the names because first of all it aint my account so if it gets banned its my fault. and reason number 2 is that it is just too risky too show the username and both names of the characters because then the 1st reason can happen.
 
Banned - Scammer
once i let u know the name or even show u the name , all u have to do is make an ticket and u can get that account banned , so juet tell em why it would be okay for me to let u know the username and the names from the characters?
 
Banned - Scammer
allready said , im willing to make a video with logging in to both characters and show everything and all , but i just wont show the names man. too high of a risk wo i just wont be doing that and will figure out a way to hide the names
 
Banned - Scammer
not just about the high risk if i show u the username and character names but its also a safety way for my friend because its his account
 
I immediately thought it was strange that you wrote to me 2 days later when you saw $ 1,500. I did not just ask you for account information or at least the name of the character. I wanted to check if you are honest, and then I wrote to the buyer of the account and showed screenshots, and it turned out to be the same account.
Dude you got caught and your greed showed your true colors. If you decide to sell your account, be honest. And so you set a precedent and a person experiences pain and disappointment. You have to be more decent, and not think about how to fill your stomach with even more money.
 
this person(Helloaplayer) is not my friend and I don't even know him, he wanted to buy my account and now because of you he can't do it. And I decided to help him.
there is proof and you sent me screenshots. I've been on this site for 10 years and I hate scammers. And never returned accounts, and you decided that you are the smartest. Enjoy this money, but I don't want you to scammed other buyers anymore. Because of you, people are completely disbelieving
 
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Banned - Scammer
as i have said allready , allready said the same thing to you lufer4 and aswell to helloaplayer , it is not the same account. it is an different accoutn with different characters and i am happy to make a video as i have said 4 times allready , i will just make sure that there wsill be no names in the video.
 
as i have said allready , allready said the same thing to you lufer4 and aswell to helloaplayer , it is not the same account. it is an different accoutn with different characters and i am happy to make a video as i have said 4 times allready , i will just make sure that there wsill be no names in the video.
why do you keep lying? your buyer made a video where everything is visible, and the similarity is identical
its was strange, u dont have account for og plasmic.. you told me so, and then after 2 days you appear and you yourself wrote to me, I have proof. That after you told me that the account was sold, you wrote to me yourself. And you didn't post, and you know why? because you heard $1500 and wanted to earn even more quietly. BUT thank you that history is preserved in this site and you can communicate with other people. You can make excuses all you want, but you're already caught and there's only one way to get your name out there. If you give me your login and password, I have an impeccable reputation and I am ready to broadcast everything. And an account with og plasmic with 690+ sp and artifacts as in the screenshots, if it is different, I will apologize to you, and there will be no charges. BUT you are sent to upload a video, but this video can be made by one of your friends, and we need to know the account login and character name. You deceived a person for $ 700, have the conscience to shut up or prove your decency. children are not here
 
Banned - Scammer
i have told you allready aswell , i will never give the username and password info. the reason i didnt post it on epic npc is that it is not my account. i told my friends i had a " buyer " that was intresting in an account with og plasmic and my friend told me he wanted to sell his account and so i contacted you again. allready said its not the same account. it has different things then what the account i sold had and allready said and im gonna say it again , i am willing to make a video myself with everything BUT i will find a way to hide the names because there is a 0% chance that i am gonna say the character names or even the username because then its banable so i will not be doing that also for his safety.
 
i have told you allready aswell , i will never give the username and password info. the reason i didnt post it on epic npc is that it is not my account. i told my friends i had a " buyer " that was intresting in an account with og plasmic and my friend told me he wanted to sell his account and so i contacted you again. allready said its not the same account. it has different things then what the account i sold had and allready said and im gonna say it again , i am willing to make a video myself with everything BUT i will find a way to hide the names because there is a 0% chance that i am gonna say the character names or even the username because then its banable so i will not be doing that also for his safety.
you can take a video to provide a video to another account, but let it be your way, provide the next comment with a video from your account! BUT the name is very important, the style can be changed, your spas are similar, besides, by 1 difference, about as much and you can raise it in a few days. The NAME of the character will not harm you in any way, when my customers contact me, I always give the name of my character, because this is my trust in them. And if you didn't know, it's not enough to tell the character's name to the support of the game to get you banned, so stop carrying someone else.
 
Banned - Scammer
the account that i sold to helloaplayer i was not original owner , i bought that account on this site aswell. , to the account i was trying to sell to you i was not original owner aswell because as i said , its an account from my friend.
 
the account that i sold to helloaplayer i was not original owner , i bought that account on this site aswell. , to the account i was trying to sell to you i was not original owner aswell because as i said , its an account from my friend.
We don’t see ur video or name character ….
 
Banned - Scammer
i am not taking time to think about a lie mate , the reason im taking long to react or even upload a video or a link to here is because some i do have a life. im busy with work so dont have a lot of free time.
 
i am not taking time to think about a lie mate , the reason im taking long to react or even upload a video or a link to here is because some i do have a life. im busy with work so dont have a lot of free time.
if you wanted to tell the truth, would you tell character name the admin a long time ago or could he ban you too? xD
 
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