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Information
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Dispute Date: 08/06/2017
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: WotGod Services
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: WotGod
Your Instant Messenger ID: david.ire / eXp0

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DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? purchasing of bitcoins
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any: PM'd me after I made a thread
Approximate value of property: $350 USD

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who? no
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
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Proof
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Chat Logs:

Chat log below:

[07/06/2017 20:38:11] *** eXp0 would like to add you on Skype

Hi WotGod Services, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[07/06/2017 20:38:59] WotGod Services: Hello
[07/06/2017 20:39:04] WotGod Services: how i can help you sir?
[07/06/2017 20:39:08] eXp0: yo can you copy and paste the last message I sent you
[07/06/2017 20:39:13] eXp0: just to make sure I didn't add a scammer xD
[07/06/2017 20:39:18] eXp0: cannot be too careful lol
[07/06/2017 20:39:32] WotGod Services: oh you're the guy that's buying Bitcoins?
[07/06/2017 20:39:34] WotGod Services: yes sure
[07/06/2017 20:39:37] eXp0: yeap :D
[07/06/2017 20:39:43] WotGod Services: adding you on skype man its easier, 1 moment
[07/06/2017 20:39:48] eXp0: yeap good
[07/06/2017 20:39:51] eXp0: hows life
[07/06/2017 20:40:02] WotGod Services: understand... i'm going careful too
[07/06/2017 20:40:02] eXp0: been trying to buy bitcoins, first time trying this and its been nightmare online
[07/06/2017 20:40:19] eXp0: coinfloor man is taking my drivers license and still they aren't happy.. and 3 days they don't respond
[07/06/2017 20:40:26] eXp0: and bitcoin is rising and rising :(
[07/06/2017 20:40:32] WotGod Services: oh don't tell that to me... i've been scammed for 2.7 btc just a couple of days ago
[07/06/2017 20:40:39] eXp0: 2.7btc?
[07/06/2017 20:40:42] eXp0: omfg
[07/06/2017 20:40:46] WotGod Services: yes...
[07/06/2017 20:40:47] eXp0: that's .. 5k USD?
[07/06/2017 20:40:51] WotGod Services: with a middleman
[07/06/2017 20:40:52] eXp0: from epic?
[07/06/2017 20:40:57] eXp0: wtf
[07/06/2017 20:40:58] eXp0: how
[07/06/2017 20:40:59] WotGod Services: more than 5k
[07/06/2017 20:41:03] eXp0: ...
[07/06/2017 20:41:05] WotGod Services: no not on epic
[07/06/2017 20:41:12] eXp0: ownedcore or ?
[07/06/2017 20:41:18] WotGod Services: alphabay
[07/06/2017 20:41:25] eXp0: I never heard of that
[07/06/2017 20:41:30] WotGod Services: deepweb :)
[07/06/2017 20:41:35] eXp0: ohhh right
[07/06/2017 20:42:27] WotGod Services: yeah, i've learned a lot from there
[07/06/2017 20:42:34] WotGod Services: like how to make btc :P
[07/06/2017 20:42:42] eXp0: im so paranoid about getting bitcoins man
[07/06/2017 20:42:47] eXp0: im worried about being hacked etc
[07/06/2017 20:42:54] eXp0: my plan is to make offline wallets on USB
[07/06/2017 20:42:58] WotGod Services: bitcoin wallet can't be hacked
[07/06/2017 20:43:04] eXp0: yes but computer can
[07/06/2017 20:43:13] WotGod Services: wich wallet do you use?
[07/06/2017 20:43:22] eXp0: so my plan is like this now.. I have a hard drive in my hand, external
[07/06/2017 20:43:37] eXp0: i will reformat it, download wallet software.. install it without internet and write down details
[07/06/2017 20:43:42] eXp0: then i buy from you they go there
[07/06/2017 20:43:51] eXp0: and i check on blockchain that everything is ok
[07/06/2017 20:43:57] eXp0: so wallet never touches internet
[07/06/2017 20:44:00] eXp0: its good plan?
[07/06/2017 20:44:06] WotGod Services: blockchain is the best way to be secured
[07/06/2017 20:44:17] WotGod Services: blockchain is the best wallet around i think
[07/06/2017 20:44:31] eXp0: no but my idea is to make the wallets offline
[07/06/2017 20:44:34] eXp0: in external hard drive
[07/06/2017 20:44:41] WotGod Services: sincerely i didn't understand what you said :)
[07/06/2017 20:44:44] WotGod Services: oh
[07/06/2017 20:44:45] eXp0: oh xD
[07/06/2017 20:44:52] eXp0: mmmm wait 1 sec
[07/06/2017 20:44:59] eXp0: whatever you do.. don't sell those bitcoins now
[07/06/2017 20:45:04] eXp0: those 470$ u said you have
[07/06/2017 20:45:09] WotGod Services: why?
[07/06/2017 20:45:15] eXp0: because i want them
[07/06/2017 20:45:36] eXp0: me and a friend decided to invest £300 british currency into bitcoins.. so in dollars that total is.. wait
[07/06/2017 20:45:52] eXp0: 777.42$
[07/06/2017 20:46:01] WotGod Services: oh okey
[07/06/2017 20:46:01] eXp0: and so you have 470$ so i need more
[07/06/2017 20:46:20] WotGod Services: i can get more... just waiting the batch from ant miner
[07/06/2017 20:46:39] eXp0: but first i need now to make this cold wallet on hard drive and then tomorrow i think if its ok to wait until tomorrow (i cannot rush this because im learning so much) we try a small transaction
[07/06/2017 20:46:47] eXp0: to make sure its working fine
[07/06/2017 20:47:08] eXp0: and then ill make payment and u send the full amount
[07/06/2017 20:47:18] WotGod Services: small transaction?
[07/06/2017 20:47:28] WotGod Services: like 1$ its ok :P
[07/06/2017 20:47:42] eXp0: yes just to make sure my cold wallet is working you know
[07/06/2017 20:47:51] eXp0: incase you send 470$ and something is wrong xD
[07/06/2017 20:48:01] WotGod Services: yes understand :)
[07/06/2017 20:48:28] WotGod Services: however wanted to advise u that i'm getting some problems with PP in these days due to many transactions
[07/06/2017 20:48:40] WotGod Services: so i'm willing to accept skrill if you're ok
[07/06/2017 20:49:18] eXp0: the only reason i want to make it through paypal is because we never made a deal before.. its a lot of money and as you know, paypal is working well if someone scams.. i don't think you would
[07/06/2017 20:49:23] eXp0: is it possible at all to take paypal?
[07/06/2017 20:49:35] eXp0: im going first so its just.. idk, i hate the risk hehe
[07/06/2017 20:49:38] WotGod Services: uhm.. don't think so
[07/06/2017 20:49:51] eXp0: ok let me think here
[07/06/2017 20:49:58] WotGod Services: btw we can split the payment via skrill if you don't feel comfortable
[07/06/2017 20:50:11] WotGod Services: skrill it's the same of paypal
[07/06/2017 20:50:26] eXp0: yes but you know on skrill if someone scams you chargeback is easy :P
[07/06/2017 20:50:27] eXp0: but
[07/06/2017 20:50:32] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 20:50:37] eXp0: we will make it with skrill.. each time 110$
[07/06/2017 20:50:51] eXp0: i don't think you would scam so its good
[07/06/2017 20:50:52] WotGod Services: uh
[07/06/2017 20:50:57] eXp0: uh?
[07/06/2017 20:51:06] WotGod Services: the problem is... don't want to get many transactions
[07/06/2017 20:51:28] WotGod Services: because i'm doing a lot of traffic with mine accounts
[07/06/2017 20:51:33] eXp0: ok hold on
[07/06/2017 20:51:34] WotGod Services: between pp and skrill
[07/06/2017 20:52:17] eXp0: 1 moment
[07/06/2017 20:52:42] eXp0: im guessing after you got scammed for 5k+ USD you wont go first either?
[07/06/2017 20:53:18] WotGod Services: however it's normal to do this due to high amount trades, but i assure you that i'm keeping everyday to ask to my customers to leave feedbacks but not all people leave a rating
[07/06/2017 20:53:33] eXp0: yea i know it.. it sucks when people don't leave feedbacks
[07/06/2017 20:53:35] eXp0: i hate that
[07/06/2017 20:53:46] eXp0: because it makes it difficult for new customers to understand how good the seller is
[07/06/2017 20:53:49] WotGod Services: yeh... i've got a huge scam even if there was a middleman (with a lot of feedbacks)
[07/06/2017 20:54:00] eXp0: how did that even happen
[07/06/2017 20:54:03] eXp0: the middleman scammed you??
[07/06/2017 20:54:55] WotGod Services: so as Always i've started to pm to sellers if they were interested in btc, a guy then replied to me saying that he was interested on a total of 2.5 btc
[07/06/2017 20:55:06] eXp0: so much btc
[07/06/2017 20:55:08] eXp0: my god
[07/06/2017 20:55:51] WotGod Services: i said him that i wanted to use an escrow and we found a guy (vendor level 9 that means more than 10k feedbacks) and we agreed for a fee of 0.2 btc (for a total of 2.7 btc)
[07/06/2017 20:56:14] WotGod Services: i've got scammed instantly after i've sent the total amount with fees to the mm
[07/06/2017 20:56:21] eXp0: 0.2?? that's 500+$ :o
[07/06/2017 20:56:25] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 20:56:30] WotGod Services: its normal
[07/06/2017 20:56:34] WotGod Services: for these transactions
[07/06/2017 20:56:48] eXp0: why would he do this... i mean to scam for that is crazy
[07/06/2017 20:57:12] eXp0: with so much feedback and reputation as middleman
[07/06/2017 20:57:14] WotGod Services: i know... i don't understand how ppl think... like he wasted 10k of rep for 6k usd
[07/06/2017 20:57:16] eXp0: did you report it?
[07/06/2017 20:57:20] WotGod Services: of course
[07/06/2017 20:57:30] eXp0: man that's.. that makes me even more nervous haha
[07/06/2017 20:57:38] eXp0: its crazy lol
[07/06/2017 20:57:50] eXp0: as you say
[07/06/2017 20:57:55] eXp0: trading 6kusd for 10k rep
[07/06/2017 20:58:00] WotGod Services: so you may understand how i may feel rn... i'm going very caught
[07/06/2017 20:58:07] eXp0: yea
[07/06/2017 20:58:16] eXp0: smallest amount you are willing to take in skrill?
[07/06/2017 20:58:17] WotGod Services: yeh... he was a 8 year registered user
[07/06/2017 20:58:36] WotGod Services: what do you mean with smallest amount?
[07/06/2017 20:58:48] eXp0: like.. i don't want to make 1 big payment in skrill
[07/06/2017 20:58:54] eXp0: but you don't want many small payments
[07/06/2017 20:59:15] eXp0: i have one idea
[07/06/2017 20:59:23] eXp0: get the full amount of bitcoins from your miner
[07/06/2017 20:59:27] eXp0: and we do 3 payments?
[07/06/2017 20:59:31] eXp0: 1/3 1/3 1/3
[07/06/2017 20:59:40] WotGod Services: yes... sincerely i would get the Whole amount... but maybe i can accept 65/75% of the payment
[07/06/2017 20:59:42] WotGod Services: as upfront
[07/06/2017 21:00:41] eXp0: it sucks really no paypal i would of done full amount in payment in paypal
[07/06/2017 21:01:04] WotGod Services: understand... but i've made like 120 transactions in 40 hours
[07/06/2017 21:01:09] WotGod Services: less than 2 days
[07/06/2017 21:01:12] eXp0: oh woa
[07/06/2017 21:01:15] eXp0: oO
[07/06/2017 21:01:18] eXp0: crazy
[07/06/2017 21:01:22] WotGod Services: i started to sell anything to recover the amount lost
[07/06/2017 21:01:29] eXp0: i see
[07/06/2017 21:01:59] WotGod Services: btw i'm getting maybe in few hours the 5th batch of bitcoins
[07/06/2017 21:02:24] eXp0: how much bitcoins you would have in total?
[07/06/2017 21:02:49] WotGod Services: with the batch's coming maybe 1400/1450$ in total
[07/06/2017 21:02:49] eXp0: so if i understand it correctly.. you purpose to make like this.. i give you 65% and you give me the coins and i give you 35% after?
[07/06/2017 21:03:15] WotGod Services: that would be a good way yes... at least i have something
[07/06/2017 21:03:45] eXp0: let me just confirm with my friend.. the money is 50/50 so i must get his agreement, because its his money also
[07/06/2017 21:03:46] eXp0: moment :)
[07/06/2017 21:04:00] WotGod Services: yes sure take your time
[07/06/2017 21:05:31] WotGod Services: by the way if you're interested in btc, i may suggest you to invest money on miners
[07/06/2017 21:05:50] eXp0: yes but electric here is costly
[07/06/2017 21:05:58] eXp0: i cannot mine it for cheap
[07/06/2017 21:06:08] WotGod Services: oh
[07/06/2017 21:06:13] WotGod Services: understand
[07/06/2017 21:06:15] eXp0: yea man UK is not cheap
[07/06/2017 21:06:28] WotGod Services: yeah
[07/06/2017 21:07:26] eXp0: hey my friend asks me.. can you we do: we send 50% in skrill.. you send 50% in coins.. we send 50% again and you send next 50%
[07/06/2017 21:07:30] WotGod Services: you can invest on ant miners system
[07/06/2017 21:07:36] eXp0: ant miners
[07/06/2017 21:07:39] eXp0: i don't know this
[07/06/2017 21:08:00] WotGod Services: powered with 400V
[07/06/2017 21:08:02] WotGod Services: only
[07/06/2017 21:08:27] WotGod Services: and in 2 months 24/7 working it can mine up to 17 BTC
[07/06/2017 21:08:38] eXp0: :O
[07/06/2017 21:08:50] eXp0: ok so look.. tell me what you think on this one
[07/06/2017 21:08:59] WotGod Services: uhm...
[07/06/2017 21:09:04] eXp0: we make 2 trades, only 2... we send 350$ you send 50% bitcoins
[07/06/2017 21:09:06] eXp0: and we do that again
[07/06/2017 21:09:07] WotGod Services: that should sound good
[07/06/2017 21:09:08] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 21:09:16] eXp0: ok
[07/06/2017 21:09:23] eXp0: i hope this works out xD
[07/06/2017 21:09:31] eXp0: well at least i just risk 350$ :P
[07/06/2017 21:09:33] eXp0: but still haha
[07/06/2017 21:09:48] eXp0: you understand because you already been scammed
[07/06/2017 21:09:51] eXp0: its not nice
[07/06/2017 21:10:00] WotGod Services: nothing compared on what i've lost :P
[07/06/2017 21:10:05] eXp0: yes i know
[07/06/2017 21:10:05] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 21:10:08] eXp0: that's true
[07/06/2017 21:10:25] eXp0: 5 mins m8, toilet
[07/06/2017 21:10:30] WotGod Services: sure
[07/06/2017 21:10:32] WotGod Services: :)
[07/06/2017 21:13:31] eXp0: ok good, now i must fix this cold wallet fast on hard drive
[07/06/2017 21:13:43] eXp0: what time you will have the 700$ worth of bitcoins
[07/06/2017 21:13:43] WotGod Services: sure :)
[07/06/2017 21:13:51] WotGod Services: maybe in few hours
[07/06/2017 21:14:07] eXp0: oh but you have first 50% .. 350$ worth
[07/06/2017 21:14:16] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 21:14:16] eXp0: so i must fix hard drive fast
[07/06/2017 21:14:25] eXp0: ok give me some time i must focus on this, no mistakes :D
[07/06/2017 21:14:33] WotGod Services: sure
[07/06/2017 21:18:30] eXp0: ok i may drop offline because of disconnecting from internet to make wallet :) only for few mins
[07/06/2017 21:18:40] WotGod Services: sure ok ;)
[07/06/2017 21:47:03] eXp0: okkk I think I'm good :D
[07/06/2017 21:47:25] eXp0: i got a key that you can send bitcoins to
[07/06/2017 21:47:50] WotGod Services: hey
[07/06/2017 21:47:59] eXp0: so a question.. even with this device not connected to internet, because i have this key for you to send bitcoins to
[07/06/2017 21:48:01] eXp0: it still works
[07/06/2017 21:48:05] WotGod Services: sorry, was finalizing a sale witha nother guy
[07/06/2017 21:48:10] eXp0: no problem mister :)
[07/06/2017 21:48:15] eXp0: whats your first name?
[07/06/2017 21:48:16] eXp0: I'm david
[07/06/2017 21:48:23] WotGod Services: Ludvig
[07/06/2017 21:48:25] WotGod Services: ;)
[07/06/2017 21:48:30] eXp0: cool.. lud :D
[07/06/2017 21:50:14] WotGod Services: :)
[07/06/2017 21:50:28] WotGod Services: so u're from uk right?
[07/06/2017 21:50:52] eXp0: yeap, northern ireland
[07/06/2017 21:51:12] eXp0: hey i have this key.. can you try send a very small amount to it?
[07/06/2017 21:51:29] WotGod Services: yup
[07/06/2017 21:51:36] WotGod Services: i'm from sweden btw :)
[07/06/2017 21:51:38] eXp0: so i just paste key to you here?
[07/06/2017 21:51:41] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 21:51:44] eXp0: oh really? i thought you are in argentina
[07/06/2017 21:51:52] WotGod Services: that's my partner
[07/06/2017 21:51:53] eXp0: 1NzVzJD6QgX6Xu9jRyY85v8a1TLMa6A7Wk
[07/06/2017 21:51:55] eXp0: ohh
[07/06/2017 21:53:40] WotGod Services: sent a small amount
[07/06/2017 21:53:46] eXp0: k how soon i can see it?
[07/06/2017 21:53:51] eXp0:
https://blockchain.info/address/1NzVzJD6QgX6Xu9jRyY85v8a1TLMa6A7Wk
[07/06/2017 21:54:00] eXp0: ooo its there
[07/06/2017 21:54:02] eXp0: you see it?
[07/06/2017 21:54:05] WotGod Services: you should see instantly
[07/06/2017 21:54:15] eXp0: (bhangra)
[07/06/2017 21:54:21] eXp0: it works :D
[07/06/2017 21:54:29] WotGod Services: perfect :)
[07/06/2017 21:54:40] eXp0: ok man
[07/06/2017 21:54:42] eXp0: here it goes xD
[07/06/2017 21:54:45] eXp0: skrill address?
[07/06/2017 21:55:58] WotGod Services:
[email protected]
[07/06/2017 21:57:43] WotGod Services: so explain me, did you made an external wallet by yourself?
[07/06/2017 21:57:49] eXp0: yes
[07/06/2017 21:57:55] eXp0: i made it on a hard drive, offline with armory
[07/06/2017 21:58:09] WotGod Services: but why all this security?
[07/06/2017 21:58:15] eXp0: i have paper backup with root key and passprhase
[07/06/2017 21:58:21] eXp0: because I'm a paranoid guy
[07/06/2017 21:58:38] eXp0: its not about hackers fully.. its about government also
[07/06/2017 21:58:44] WotGod Services: oh
[07/06/2017 21:58:46] eXp0: you think its too much?
[07/06/2017 21:58:51] WotGod Services: :P
[07/06/2017 21:58:53] eXp0: i don't know :P
[07/06/2017 21:58:58] WotGod Services: you'll be fine
[07/06/2017 21:59:00] eXp0: I'm just.. its 50/50 money
[07/06/2017 21:59:06] eXp0: my friend.. and its someone elses money
[07/06/2017 21:59:10] eXp0: he trusts me
[07/06/2017 21:59:33] eXp0: and i value this trust so if i was to lose this money i would need to pay him back, even when he tells me its ok .. we take this risk together :P
[07/06/2017 21:59:40] WotGod Services: i've got a blockchain wallet... but not in the official blockchain :) there's a deep web blockchain
[07/06/2017 21:59:50] eXp0: oh deepweb man that's crazy stuff
[07/06/2017 22:00:12] WotGod Services: still the better way :)
[07/06/2017 22:03:03] eXp0: ok so ill send 350% now
[07/06/2017 22:03:05] eXp0: $
[07/06/2017 22:03:06] eXp0: ok?
[07/06/2017 22:03:18] WotGod Services: 350% would be awesome percentage haha :P
[07/06/2017 22:03:20] WotGod Services: oke
[07/06/2017 22:03:21] eXp0:
[email protected] this email right
[07/06/2017 22:03:22] eXp0: hahaha
[07/06/2017 22:03:35] WotGod Services:
[email protected]
[07/06/2017 22:03:36] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 22:04:25] eXp0: well.. you have it xD
[07/06/2017 22:04:33] eXp0: 07/06/2017 23:04 Sent Ludvig Olsson Processed -5.36 -282.29
Transaction ID: 2119553719
Exchange rate used: 1 USD = 0.806542 GBP
Amount sent: 350.00 USD
Send money fee GBP 5.36
Recipient's email:
[email protected]
[07/06/2017 22:04:37] WotGod Services: lemme check
[07/06/2017 22:05:29] eXp0: so for this we get 315$ worth of bitcoin right?
[07/06/2017 22:05:40] WotGod Services: let me find your transaction :).. i've received 4 transactions rn
[07/06/2017 22:05:46] WotGod Services: yes
[07/06/2017 22:05:47] eXp0: oh (like)
[07/06/2017 22:05:58] WotGod Services:
[My name removed]?
[07/06/2017 22:06:06] eXp0: that's me, the one and only :D
[07/06/2017 22:06:10] WotGod Services: ok
[07/06/2017 22:06:22] WotGod Services: so can you resend me your btc wallet id?
[07/06/2017 22:06:31] eXp0: 1NzVzJD6QgX6Xu9jRyY85v8a1TLMa6A7Wk
[07/06/2017 22:06:36] eXp0:
https://blockchain.info/address/1NzVzJD6QgX6Xu9jRyY85v8a1TLMa6A7Wk
[07/06/2017 22:06:54] WotGod Services: perfect
[07/06/2017 22:07:07] WotGod Services: let me send... just a couple of mins
[07/06/2017 22:07:13] eXp0: no problem lud
[07/06/2017 22:08:52] *** eXp0 would like to add you on Skype

Hi WotGod Services, I'd like to add you as a contact. ***
[13:53:53] *** eXp0 would like to add you on Skype ***

Other proof: Pictures of skype:

bit of mess because of so many screens but all the convo is in there.

http://imgur.com/a/IDbLG

http://imgur.com/a/6NHZg





Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Well I knew he reported someone else, he give the whole impression of a white knite.. but ultimately google his name/read his posts that's it. .. basically no I did not. :mad:
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? (optional) many with https://www.epicnpc.com/members/565185 //edit also should add i made 1 other trade for a wot account with a member.




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Just want to add, it was very foolish.. I don't know what was going on to make this trade last night, I won't get the money back so now it's just about stopping anymore people from being scammed by him.
 
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He has a Skype named live:wotgod_2

Please alert people that he's willing to scam for higher volume trades. I got lucky with him as i only did like 2 keys at a time. Really sorry for your loss Bloodtide.
 
He has a Skype named live:wotgod_2

Please alert people that he's willing to scam for higher volume trades. I got lucky with him as i only did like 2 keys at a time. Really sorry for your loss Bloodtide.

He's banned now but you're right the threat remains for anyone not seeing this thread and had him on Skype already, the one other person who I THINK traded with this person was @Novun and I already PM'd Novun the thread link and so I think we're good.. if I see anyone else who he had a few trades with I will deffo PM them.

Reflecting on this I definitely will make a thread in the watering hole section of Epic when this all blows over, I think it will be a good read for people who haven't been scammed, who have been scammed but more importantly a read for someone who has just been scammed and comes across it. There's so many unique emotions and feelings with having been stolen from that one doesn't experience normally and it's easy to be irrational at that moment.

Thanks for your post and concern @PL_GOD :)
 
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