Scammed by Whelmed for $50 for Fate/grandorder account

[lordangelic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

https://www.epicnpc.com/members/709595-Whelmed
his paypal email: [email protected]
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Purchase Date: 7-may-2018, 2:46 AM UTC+8:00
Date the problem begain: Immediately after payment
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): discord
Your Instant Messenger ID:

lordangelic#0454​

Instant Messenger username of the person you are accusing:

Kobiachi#1888​

Other information:

He has repeatedly changed his messenger username, so its pretty sure he's actively trying to scam people.

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1290987-Cu-Alter-Jalter-Arturia-Waver-NA-End-Game-Account
Approximate value of property: $50.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? If so, what is the TG ID#

What is the dispute about?

I contacted him on discord after seeing his selling thread here. Asked him a few questions about the FGO account and everything seemed pretty fine. He seemed pretty trustworthy and gave me some references, so I decided to go first and make payment without middleman/trade guardian for convenience. After making payments, he gave me the login info, I tried repeatedly but it was wrong. At this point, I messaged him but he has already blocked me on discord.

Luckily, I took screenshots throughout the entire buying/selling process, so he has no excuses.

This guy needs to
1) give me my money back or give me the account that I paid for
3) get banned!!!

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ya6ngga6l6fhrl8/Screenshot 2018-05-07 02.52.13.jpg?dl=0
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ap64lw767w0te6b/Screenshot 2018-05-07 03.33.34.jpg?dl=0
Compare with the first screen, you see that he has deleted all his conversation after blocking me.
Other proof:
I have reported to the moderator of the FGO reddit official discord as well. He/she has verified and since taken action against this scammer by removing him from the server and his posts from the channel.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tudhi6qaibofhh8/Screenshot 2018-05-07 03.37.26.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v97mx4hne6d8286/Screenshot 2018-05-07 03.37.45.jpg?dl=0

Please take action against him! Thank you

 

[Whelmed]

Banned - Admitted to Scamming

Updated

 

[lordangelic]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I had sent him the transfer information after he had sent me the payment on paypal, shortly after he decided to refund the sent money on paypal and we are now going through the dispute process. He then blocked me when I tried to message him about it and then I decided to block him as I have sufficient proof to prove that I did everything by the book and right. I also deleted my messages in fear that he would attempt to manipulate them using some sort of program. I have traded with many individuals and will provide proof if asked by a mod, these include previous transactions with others that I have traded with. I hope this goes to show how manipualtive this guy is, as he went out of his way to try and incriminate me on here even though the trade had taken place on the FGO Trading Subreddit, and he had contacted me through there.

First, I did not contact you via the subreddit. I saw your selling thread first here, then made the contact via discord. Go ahead and show evidence that I messaged you on the subreddit. There isn't because it's bullshit.

Second, you blocked me first, as clearly shown on the screenshot. If needed, the activities log can be digged up and it will clearly show that you blocked me first. I only raised a dispute against you on paypal after you blocked me. I could show the screenshots of the time-stamps on paypal and our chat log if necessary. LOL @ afraid that I will manipulate the screenshots again you lol, the timeline does not even fit your story brah, again, if necessary I can put together the entire timeline with the necessary chat time-stamps and it would not fit your story. If you did not do anything wrong, why so frantically delete all the screenshots and messages?(fortunately I screenshot our messages)

Finally, the moderator of the subreddit discord has already verified and taken action against you by removing your posts and banning you from the server. Surely, if you didn't do a thing, why did you leave the server immediately after scamming me?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8e35m57ynv0dbxt/Screenshot 2018-05-07 04.14.34.jpg?dl=0

I took many more screenshots during the entire process as a precaution. Again, I have no intentions of wasting time bullshitting with you. All I am asking for:

give me the account I paid for OR give me my money back

 

[Whelmed]

Banned - Admitted to Scamming

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I attempted to scam lordangelic for 50 USD and then attempted to lie and pretend as if what he was the one who was trying to scam me. I accept the punishment that may come regardless of what it is. Sorry for the inconvenience that I have caused on this Forum as well as the Subreddit.