Scammed By Red Imposter

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Dispute Date: Feb 17, 2014
Method of Contact Used: Steam Messsenger
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Chuck (on steam), and Green Arrow (his friend)
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Red
Your Instant Messenger ID: pklolsu on steam

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DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? Scammed for cs:go items.
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/594293-Flip-Knife-Stained-BS-60-(85-market-price)
Approximate value of property: $75.00 USD

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who? No.
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
So someone contacted me on steam named Chuck. His profile had very minor usage, so it was very sketchy. He claims to wanting to purchase my knife. However I asked him where he had found me and link me to here, "http://www.epicnpc.com/members/191270-Red". Of course anyone could say that, so I asked him for evidence. He told me he would PM me from his epic npc account, which he did. Later in chat, he claims his internet is having problems and he will be doing this with his friend and through his phone. Of course I offered to go first because he had over 70 feedback, and I had little to none. So rather than steam trading him the items, I offered them to him (my 5 items for his 0), but then he said he could not accept them on his phone, so I had to offer them to his friend (green arrow). After the offer had been completed, he took my items, and told me "I sent the payment". I refreshed my paypal over and over, and before in the past it did not show up for me, til about 5 minutes later. So I messaged him saying, "I will tell you when I receive the payment". He replied sure, and deleted me as friend. Green Arrow his friend, also, deleted me as a friend.

Other details / notes: Please help me in this dilemma. I was in desperate need of that money to survive in college. I don't want to get really personal, but that money was supposed to go to a lot. He claimed to be having internet problems, and that was the reason he was on his phone, but taking my items then deleting me before I approved to receive this payment is not "internet problems". Now I'm stuck here filling out all this stuff running around trying to get my money, or AT LEAST my items back rather than studying for my midterm. EpicNpc, PLEASE help me in this situation.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? 3
 
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Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
Sorry but you have been scammed by an imposter or just wanted to get my banned even if i never scammed someone.
I barely use Steam and i can't hold resposibility for something that someone else did pretending to be me.

Please provide the screenshot of the conversation with me that you wanted to buy a dawngate key from me for 1$ and i asked you to post in my thread but you never did then you just removed me

http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2enlwjt&s=8#.UwKkCdiDr7I

When looking at this conversation it looks very strange that you wan't to buy a beta key from me and asking me to PM you and i ask you to post in my thread and then you just remove me?

You can ask steam support to track the IP of ''chuck'' and Mike and the other mods has my IP so they can compare them both.
 
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Sorry but you have been scammed by an imposter or just wanted to get my banned even if i never scammed someone.
I barely use Steam and i can't hold resposibility for something that someone else did pretending to be me.

Please provide the screenshot of the conversation with me that you wanted to buy a dawngate key from me for 1$ and i asked you to post in my thread but you never did then you just removed me

http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2enlwjt&s=8#.UwKkCdiDr7I

When looking at this conversation it looks very strange that you wan't to buy a beta key from me and asking me to PM you and i ask you to post in my thread and then you just remove me?
I am not Green Arrow and have never communicated with you before this. How could I have been scammed by an imposter if you sent me a pm saying "me me me" 1 minute after the "imposter" claimed to have sent me a private message. The message in my inbox is clearly from you, and I made sure of that.

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I am not Green Arrow and have never communicated with you before this. How could I have been scammed by an imposter if you sent me a pm saying "me me me" 1 minute after the "imposter" claimed to have sent me a private message. The message in my inbox is clearly from you, and I made sure of that.

Oh. I see what happened.

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I am not Green Arrow and have never communicated with you before this. How could I have been scammed by an imposter if you sent me a pm saying "me me me" 1 minute after the "imposter" claimed to have sent me a private message. The message in my inbox is clearly from you, and I made sure of that.

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Oh. I see what happened.

What a horrible day, embarrassing, full of loss, and full of bull****. How can someone go through a process of that much ****ing work to do that. It's just ridiculous. I'm trying to remove the neg feedback but it isn't letting me at the moment.
 
Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
I am not Green Arrow and have never communicated with you before this. How could I have been scammed by an imposter if you sent me a pm saying "me me me" 1 minute after the "imposter" claimed to have sent me a private message. The message in my inbox is clearly from you, and I made sure of that.

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Oh. I see what happened.

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What a horrible day, embarrassing, full of loss, and full of bull****. How can someone go through a process of that much ****ing work to do that. It's just ridiculous. I'm trying to remove the neg feedback but it isn't letting me at the moment.
Why did you give a feedback when a transaction never was done? I asked you to post in my thread instead you removed me.. Please mod remove the feedback from me.
A mod or Admin please check the Skype IP of this guy and compare with the IP that shows here at EpicNPC if it's the same person
 
Why did you give a feedback when a transaction never was done? I asked you to post in my thread instead you removed me.. Please mod remove the feedback from me.
A mod or Admin please check the Skype IP of this guy and compare with the IP that shows here at EpicNPC if it's the same person

Please delete the feedback. It was my fault.
I was scammed by an imposter who had red pm me what was SUPPOSED to be "green arrow" and from that it made me believe red was the scammer in this situation.

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Why did you give a feedback when a transaction never was done? I asked you to post in my thread instead you removed me.. Please mod remove the feedback from me.
A mod or Admin please check the Skype IP of this guy and compare with the IP that shows here at EpicNPC if it's the same person

I think you may be misinterpreting the situation, but either way remove the feedback please. Red, the greenarrow person had you private message me, while his friend made me believe he was red. At the same time, when I received the private message from you I believed it was you who wanted to buy my stained flip knife. I never had any previous contact with you before and apologize for the inconvenience.
Is there anything I can do at this point, or am I left with nothing?
 
I removed the feedback. Please proivide a screenshot of the skype conversation showing the skype profile so we can see if the ip of that skype matches anyone on these forums. Also i believe you can contact team and tell them you were scammed or something to get the item back
 
I removed the feedback. Please proivide a screenshot of the skype conversation showing the skype profile so we can see if the ip of that skype matches anyone on these forums. Also i believe you can contact team and tell them you were scammed or something to get the item back

First off I would like to apologize to everyone here. Specifically Red for the false accusation. However, I am still left with nothing and I would really appreciate some help.
First, how can I get the IP area of skype?
Second how can I contact steam to possibly get my items back/get the other players banned? Would steam tell me it is my fault for trying to trade via paypal?

Edit - I just realized I never communicated with them on skype. Would I have to ask for an ip check from the steam team?
 
I honestly dont know how steam works so i cant give you a definate answer on your 2nd question. As Red suggested tell them you were scammed out of an item trade so they should investigate it etc and ask them for the ip of that "chuck" guy.

Also since it was an imposter i have moved this to scam busters and changed the title
 
I honestly dont know how steam works so i cant give you a definate answer on your 2nd question. As Red suggested tell them you were scammed out of an item trade so they should investigate it etc and ask them for the ip of that "chuck" guy

If Red wouldn't mind helping, couldn't he find out Green Arrow's IP address from skype?
There's another thing I believe they thought through on the scam. The person used his cell phone to communicate with me. Well actually, I believe steam could still find out their IP addresses from their profile. I will submit a ticket of some sort.
 
Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
No problem. It happends all the time here on EpicNPC so it's almost impossible not to expect a imposter these days.. I PM'd you instructions how to handle thid but i also type it here. Contact the Steam support and require and tell them you've been scammed and provide proof and asked them to give you his ID and if they do then contact EpicNPC or another supermod/mod and ask them to run the IP on the EPICnpc data base to see if that IP matches a previously banned user here at EpicNPC.

Sad this happends but it's not the first time. Scammers always finds new ways to blow other people out of money sadly.

There is a few websites that can check others IPs by typing their skype name and it would provide their IP.
You can simply do it by yourself.

My skype is Bigstar099 and i'm located in Bredäng, Sweden and not somewhere in USA.
 
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I appreciate all support, but at this point I almost have no motivation to figure this out. I'm out of $75, I'm completely embarrassed, and after about 5 minutes of research it's clear valve will not refund me.
 
Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
Thank you. I submitted a ticket to valve, and it looks like the best I can get is a trade ban. Thanks for all of your time, and I appreciate the support I was given. I would like to once more apologize to all the users who have posted in this thread.

You paid directly from PP to him? go to the Resolution Center and provide a story that you got scammed and ask them to refund you but if that doesn't work then call the credit card company or if you sent from a bank card call your bank and tell them you got scammed and want a refund, that should work to get back the money you lost.
 
You paid directly from PP to him? go to the Resolution Center and provide a story that you got scammed and ask them to refund you but if that doesn't work then call the credit card company or if you sent from a bank card call your bank and tell them you got scammed and want a refund, that should work to get back the money you lost.

I sincerely appreciate the thought, but I was the seller and there was no request or charge given. So technically there was no transaction on paypal.
 
Banned - dispute - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/keiichi-owes-me-fees-i-hope-he-is-okay-cool-dude.1433002/
This scam method is called double sided scam so from now on if someone contacts me and wants to purchase/sell something from/to me they will have to post in my thread to confirm that they have an account and isn't a previously banned user or using some kind of vpn/proxy. I was stupid and pmd him before he posted in my thread but this won't happend ever again.
 
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