Scammed by Logisticz(Epicnpc Moderator)

[Rhygin]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 1/6/2020
Date the problem begain: 1/6/2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]
Your Instant Messenger ID:

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/lea...-level-account-discount-for-transfer.1520739/
Approximate value of property: $60 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? /

What is the dispute about?

The guy nammed Virtua added me to buy the account from me, and he wanted to use middleman named Logisticz which took the middleman fee, after that took my information about the league of legends account,
changed all the information and deleted the email i was using for that account so i couldn't even recover it anymore, and have never responded to message on discord again.
They said he had some emergency and couldn't do the trade at the moment, i delayed it for tomorrow, they never responded back, and deleted the email so thats pure scam, why would middleman delete my email and not respond on message.

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Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

https://prnt.sc/ql29sl
https://prnt.sc/ql29yd
https://prnt.sc/ql2a3q
https://prnt.sc/ql2a7b
https://prnt.sc/ql2abk
https://prnt.sc/ql2ai1

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): Above.
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): No payment screenshots, because they never payed for it.
Other proof:

After i was scammed i found this on forum also, so that's actually one guy, or they work together.
https://prnt.sc/ql2bd6


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

 

[SaltnVinegar]

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We do not do any middleman transactions outside of EpicNPC. All transactions are conducted ONSITE only. You were scammed by an impersonator. Please see our Trade Guardian page for more information, in particular the warning clearly labelled there: https://www.epicnpc.com/tradeguardian/

Can you please post a screenshot of where the fee was paid to? (If you have it)
And can you please post a screenshot of Virtua's discord profile.

 

[Logisticz]

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Exactly what @SaltnVinegar said. I never conduct any MM on Discord even say's in my Signature. Also the person you spoke with is not me and is an impersonator. Next time when you deal always make sure you PM on the website before proceeding.

 

[Rhygin]

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https://prnt.sc/ql2n97 Here's the screenshot where Virtua said that he paid MM fee to him.
https://prnt.sc/ql2nlz Here's discord profile.

 

[Logisticz]

My only question is how do you know that it's me. What was you'r way of verifying that?

 

[Rhygin]

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He came to me with this one, https://prnt.sc/ql2o8o Which is clearly post you have made in past, and it's also exact same discord as you use.

 

[Logisticz]

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That is a screenshot which is Edited. That is not my discord. Next time a simple Private Message on the site could save you all this headache.

 

[Rhygin]

Will know for future i guess. Sorry for all the mess, but it seem'd so real to me

 

[Rhygin]

So the actual scammer is that Virtua guy, should i make dispute for him, or what's the deal now ?

 

[Logisticz]

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If there is a way to prove that you actually messaged him on Epicnpc and he replied to you as well then you have something otherwise if you only used discord than there is no way of telling because anyone can make a discord with a mod name or whatever name they desire.

 

[Rhygin]

I see, okay, thanks for the info.

 

[zorlake]

I'm sorry to intrude but this virtua guy also tried scamming me with his fake logisticz impersonator. He deleted all his messages.

 

[Angel]

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@zorlake @Rhygin

Please copy paste a scammer discord name plus # into empty field https://characterchecker.com/ then click submit.

The next step post an image with the result here

 

[Rhygin]

Here are the results:
https://prnt.sc/ql9ny2
https://prnt.sc/ql9o93

 

[Angel]

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I am sorry but you are scammed by impersonators. As is previously stated to protect yourself from such a things please conduct with sales via PM only. Discord is easy to impersonate and here is a huge number of people who are scammed on the same way.

 

[Nevada95]

they tried to scam me, but i change email and pasw costantly, but they keep re-change it...idk how to stop this two guys