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xBrokenTouch

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Dispute Date: e.g. 10/12/16
Method of Contact Used: Skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: finnish_me
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: Finnish Me
Your Instant Messenger ID: TwistedAngelXx
Other information:

DISPUTE Information
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What is the dispute about? account, money, service? account
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/966961-Runescape-Account-with-381-Quest-Points-and-2338-Total
Approximate value of property: $133.16 USD

Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it: I paid for account, he blocked me and went offline on October 2016 also stole the account back into his hands by changing the email on the account and recovering it.
Other details / notes:

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs: please see screenshots
Pictures/Screenshots: http://prntscr.com/css1fw
Other proof:

Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? No
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? None
 
"I paid for account, he blocked me and went offline on October 2016 also stole the account back into his hands by changing the email on the account and recovering it."

So he gave you the account information, blocked you, then recovered the account correct?

Finnish Me has been notified.
 
EpicNPC CM said:
"I paid for account, he blocked me and went offline on October 2016 also stole the account back into his hands by changing the email on the account and recovering it."

So he gave you the account information, blocked you, then recovered the account correct?

Finnish Me has been notified.
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Yes sir, that is correct also I can give you the Paypal payment as well
 
July 1 - xBrokenTouch buys RS account from Finnish Me
Oct 12 - account is recalled

Feedback confirms the sale.

Do you have any proof the account was recalled? Did you get any emails? Have you tried contacting Jagex support about this? If so, what did they say?

Finnish Me said:
I am the original owner of the account and the buyer can have the original email in addition to the account information
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It appears he's the OO and gave you the original email for the account. Do you still have access to that email account?

Finnish Me has been email notified.
 
Response from Finnish me : I have not touched the account, nor have I blocked him. I did remove him from my skype contacts though, since the list was getting quite full. If he were to contact me, I could be able to recover the account if he has lost it.
 
EpicNPC said:
July 1 - xBrokenTouch buys RS account from Finnish Me
Oct 12 - account is recalled

Feedback confirms the sale.

Do you have any proof the account was recalled? Did you get any emails? Have you tried contacting Jagex support about this? If so, what did they say?


It appears he's the OO and gave you the original email for the account. Do you still have access to that email account?

Finnish Me has been email notified.
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No i don't have access to that email account at all and i have not contacted Jagex support about this at all also didn't get any emails about an email change or password change, i rather have a refund from the owner via Paypal.

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EpicNPC CM said:
Response from Finnish me : I have not touched the account, nor have I blocked him. I did remove him from my skype contacts though, since the list was getting quite full. If he were to contact me, I could be able to recover the account if he has lost it.
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Here's the proof when i clicked forget password and this shows up with his email, http://prntscr.com/ctftan
 
EpicNPC CM said:
Broken have you tried contacting Finnish to recover the account? He said he would help you if you contacted him.
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I sent a skype request to him but he didn't accept it, i believe he declined it and here's the Skype Chat

Skype Chat

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[7/1/2016 12:57:47 AM] *** Finnish Me has shared contact details with ❤ Joseph ❤. ***
[7/1/2016 12:58:13 AM] Finnish Me: Hello
[7/1/2016 12:59:03 AM] Joseph W.: Hello.
[7/1/2016 1:00:02 AM] Finnish Me: Do you have any questions or offers about the account?
[7/1/2016 1:04:17 AM] Joseph W.: I hope I didn't wake you up
[7/1/2016 1:04:53 AM] Joseph W.: But the offer of the account is no issue for me and does it have security questions etc?
[7/1/2016 1:06:20 AM] Finnish Me: I'm actually not sure about the security questions, I think I've never needed them, but would you ever need them, you can ask me
[7/1/2016 1:06:39 AM] Joseph W.: Well I don't need them just wondering, I can pay like right now.
[7/1/2016 1:07:40 AM] Finnish Me: Ok, after the payment is complete, I'll give you the details and change the email to yours
[7/1/2016 1:07:48 AM] Joseph W.: Right.
[7/1/2016 1:07:49 AM] Finnish Me: Is 120€ ok?
[7/1/2016 1:08:19 AM] Joseph W.: That would be $133.16 in US Dollars.
[7/1/2016 1:09:46 AM] Finnish Me: Is the price fine for you?
[7/1/2016 1:09:57 AM] Joseph W.: Yes it is.
[7/1/2016 1:11:31 AM] Finnish Me: Send the money as payment for goods or services to el*****@g****.com, and in the description write the title of my thread, I'll copy it here
[7/1/2016 1:12:09 AM] Finnish Me: Runescape Account with 381 Quest Points and 2338 Total
[7/1/2016 1:13:37 AM] Joseph W.: Will do :)
[7/1/2016 1:20:08 AM] Joseph W.: I don't need no shipping address right?
[7/1/2016 1:20:17 AM] Finnish Me: Nope
[7/1/2016 1:20:51 AM] Joseph W.: Sent.
[7/1/2016 1:23:24 AM] Finnish Me: Just a moment, I'm on my phone atm, no might take a bit longer than usual
[7/1/2016 1:23:35 AM] Joseph W.: Take your time
[7/1/2016 1:25:39 AM] Finnish Me: To which email should I change it to?
[7/1/2016 1:25:52 AM] Joseph W.: T*****@o*****.com
[7/1/2016 1:31:57 AM] Finnish Me: You should get an email shortly, confirm it and I'll give you the details
[7/1/2016 1:32:51 AM] Joseph W.: I got the email
[7/1/2016 1:33:12 AM] Finnish Me: Username:password
[7/1/2016 1:33:23 AM] Finnish Me: Ra*****:*******
[7/1/2016 1:33:45 AM] Joseph W.: Thank you :), how can I do a feedback on the forums
[7/1/2016 1:34:17 AM] Finnish Me: You'll need to go to my profile and find a give feedback link
[7/1/2016 1:34:31 AM] Finnish Me: It's quite well hidden :D
[7/1/2016 1:40:03 AM] Joseph W.: Done :)
[7/1/2016 1:40:56 AM] Finnish Me: Thank you, I'll give you feedback as well. If there are any issues with the account, be sure to contact me :)
[7/1/2016 1:41:22 AM] Joseph W.: Will do ;)
[7/3/2016 2:01:12 PM] xBrokenTouch: Hello and good afternoon, what's the best to make millions and what's the best armor and weapons for members?
[7/3/2016 2:06:15 PM] Finnish Me: I have been inactive for so long, that you should probably resort to youtube or other player for this. Bossing is always a fun way to make money, tho
[7/3/2016 2:17:07 PM] xBrokenTouch: Thanks and I understand and in fact I can put it live on YouTube Gaming.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1027138-Scammed-By-Finnish-Me/page2
I did not notice the skype request, sorry about that, accepted it now.
 
It has been submitted, waiting for their reply.

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[h=2]Account Recovery[/h][h=3]Denied[/h][h=3]A member of our Player Support staff has carefully reviewed your appeal and unfortunately, your appeal has been denied.[/h]Here's some feedback to help you understand why this decision has been made.
We're going to need some additional information regarding previous passwords that have been set on the account. To help us in our investigation, please send us:

  • Your creation password
  • The earliest password you can remember
  • The password you’ve had for the longest
Send us another appeal with the above information, as well as much other information as you can remember and this should greatly help us consider any future appeals.
[h=3]Creation Details[/h]The only way this account can be linked to the rightful owner is through early creation information.
We need some of the following details that can be entered into the 'Other Details' section of the Appeal form:

  • When you created the account (MM/YYYY)
  • If you have moved state/country, (let us know from where to where)
  • Creation Country (Country + State if you're appealing from the US)
  • Creation and most recent ISP (Internet Service Provider – for example BT, Virgin, Comcast, SBC etc.)
  • Any additional information which you cannot enter elsewhere in the form (for example multiple transaction ID numbers for your billing).
[h=3]Contact Details[/h]To help us establish a link between your request and the account creation we will need you to provide us with the contact details registered to the account. This will be your:

  • Billing Postcode
  • Billing Email address
You can find this information in the 'Order Confirmation' email you received when you first entered your card details on our website.
We're going to need some additional information regarding subscriptions that have been purchased on the account to help us in our investigation.
Make sure you're sending us the earliest details you can remember. Ask the person who paid the bill for the correct information if required.

  • Credit / Debit Card: provide the earliest and most accurate Transaction and Agreement IDs you can find. The earlier the details, the faster we can get you back in game. You can find your Agreement and Transaction IDs in the 'Order Confirmation' email you received when you first entered your card details on our website.
  • PayByPhone / PayBySMS: we require the earliest and most accurate setup date and duration of your subscription that you can remember. The earlier the details, the faster we can get you back in game.
  • PayByCash: we require the earliest and most accurate setup date, duration and Transaction ID that you can remember. The earlier the details, the faster we can get you back in game.
Please remember that appeals coming from anyone other than the account owner will be denied.
It is a criminal offence to attempt to gain access to an account which you did not create. If you are sure you created the account and can provide more comprehensive information
 
http://prnt.sc/ctftan
This does not prove your RS account is attached to his email. Only that Finnish Me has a RS account. It could be a new account or it could be this account you purchased, we don't know.

Based on that email, it appears to be a temporary deny since they're asking you to "Send us another appeal with the above information"

FinishMe, please provide that info the xBrokenTouch so he can attempt another appeal.
 
EpicNPC said:
http://prnt.sc/ctftan
This does not prove your RS account is attached to his email. Only that Finnish Me has a RS account. It could be a new account or it could be this account you purchased, we don't know.

Based on that email, it appears to be a temporary deny since they're asking you to "Send us another appeal with the above information"

FinishMe, please provide that info the xBrokenTouch so he can attempt another appeal.
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I clicked forget password and thats the what happen when i don't know the password, so i got declined.
 
I clicked forgot password also and when entered his email, I got the same message as this image.
http://prnt.sc/ctftan

This only proves there is a RS account that is using that email. We don't know if that's your RS account or a new account.

Finnishme has been email notified. please provide that info the xBrokenTouch so he can attempt another appeal.
 
Banned - failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1027138-Scammed-By-Finnish-Me/page2
I did ask him if he wanted me to recover the account for him, haven't got a reply yet, other than a paypal money request. I'd rather recover the account myself, than give that information away.
 
We don't want 2 people opening support tickets trying to reclaim the same account. Please provide xBrokenTouch with the info since he already has a ticket in progress.
 
It's undrestandable that xBrokenTouch might want a refund, however at this time, we will not require a refund.

First we want to fully recover the account, so xBrokenTouch please accept Finnishme's help and send in the info that Jagex is requesting. Once you have the account back, please send me the images from support showing what happened to the account. Based on that, we will decide whether or not a refund should be required.

Please update once the account has been recovered.
 
There is no update, I just want a refund, im not gonna bother trying to do another appeal to Jagex cause i know i will get declined, since i don't know all the information.

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Finnish Me said:
I did ask him if he wanted me to recover the account for him, haven't got a reply yet, other than a paypal money request. I'd rather recover the account myself, than give that information away.
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So basically you just recovered it back without telling me so therefore i want my money back plus you know all the information to the account to get it back.
 
No refund will be given until the account is recovered by either you or Finnish Me.

Since you don't want to recover it, Finnish Me please open a support ticket and recover the account. Once you have it, please send me the support ticket showing what happened.
 
EpicNPC said:
Finnish Me has been notified. Please update once you have control over the account again.
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http://prntscr.com/d3nm2j, http://prntscr.com/d3nmef, That's the account's name and email, the owner recovered it by getting it back from Jagex so i can't recover the account because he knows the security questions and recent passwords and all that, so im not gonna recover it again cause im gonna get denied from Jagex.

P.S Here's the thread he made, https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/966961-Runescape-Account-with-381-Quest-Points-and-2338-Total
 
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Thank you. I can confirm the email is linked to the RS account [HIDE=21]Raggis*[/HIDE] however I can't confirm this is the account you purchased from him.

Please post a screenshot of the chat when you originally purchased the account showing the login username he gave you.

Once that's provided, a full refund will be required by Finnish Me.

Finnish Me's upgrades have been removed and a warning has been added until his is resolved.
 
Thank you. It's been confirmed that the account purchased is the same one as being reported here. The email has been changed back to the original email which belongs to FinishMe. Full refund is owned.

Finishme was online today but didn't reply. Ban in 48 hrs if a refund is not given.
 
Finnish Me was online again today and still no reply.

Proof has been provided showing Finnish Me has the account back but failed to issue a refund. Finnish Me has been banned.

scammers info:
Finnish Me
[email protected]
finnish_me

If he eventually refunds you, please let me know.
 
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