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Scammed by Dragoncry (Do NOT trade/sell/buy with this guy on Epic7)

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iiceberg

BANNED - Do not buy, sell or trade with this user.
Country
United States
Multiple Accounts
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WARNING: DO NOT TRADE
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - failed to respond https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/a-weird-situation.1967483/
Information
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Trade Date: 7/14/2020
Date the problem began: 7/16-7/19/2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] Kazuma#6393, unchangeable ID is 732758607636201604
Your Instant Messenger ID: Briian#9562

Other information:
His discord profile is shown here:
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(YES I HAVE DISCORD LIGHT MODE DON'T JUDGE ME)

DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/trading-flidica-and-djbasar-acc.1658137
Approximate value of property: Two accounts (one I managed to save, another one all the heroes were transmitted as you will see later on)
Was Trade Guardian used? No

What is the dispute about? Trading then scamming a few days later (modifying password) and using previously unmentioned tactics to annoy me.

Proof
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This is a long story but I'll depict it for everybody.

circa 7/14/2020
- Kazuma contacts me thru Discord. Says he wants to trade accounts in the game Epic7. We successfully initiate a trade, as seen here:
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circa 7/15/2020
- Kazuma then proceeds to pester me with ruthless attempts to try and coerce me to give up another account, as shown in the screenshots below:
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circa 7/16-7/20
- Kazuma starts asking me for an ML Ken account. By this time, I'm like "what is he doing" but I keep quiet. I tell him there is no way I can trade him my main, which does have ML Ken.
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circa 7/21
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- Kazuma decides to disable the email on the account he had traded me and leaves no response. He was probably mad that I didn't have the "ML KEN PLS" account he wanted.

So after that, I changed the passcode of the account I had traded him.
He immediately tries to change it back in his language:
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At this point, I stop and am like OKAY, I won't report him or anything. We both got our accounts back, although he took his back first without prior notice.

BUT IT GETS INTERESTING. (I am including this part because it was a successful scam this time by his friend who is not on EpicNPC forums, Mynetik.)

A few days ago, he had also told his friend, called "Mynetik," to add me on Discord and trade with me.

Unfortunately since the scam, I've unfriended him and I cannot access chat history any longer, we agreed to trade one of my accounts, which had Specimen Sez + Ruele of Light.

Here is proof that the trade DID happen (luckily I still have Kazuma's chat history)

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(which I later did)

But after Kazuma did the scam, I immediately resecured the Spez + Ruele's account's gmail password but did not change my regular account password. I thought Mynetik was going to modify the Gmail password so that was at the very top pof of my head. He also resecured his email.

You probably know what happens next.... On the morning of July 23 (in Pacific time), Mynetik goes in the Spez + Ruele account and takes probably a few hours deleting all my heroes and transmitting them, including the Specimen Sez ML 5 and the Ruele of Light ML 5. These are units worth $20-25 each on a good sell. He later renames the account to "YouAreG**", which got me thinking, why didn't he just delete the account altogether? XD

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(the gold + skystone values are the same, so these are legit photos.)


Thank you for getting to the end of this post. (If requested, I can give more evidence, but am waiting for my Discord Data to download). What worries me most is that this dynamic duo is going around destroying others' accounts and scamming just because they can't get what they want.
 

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WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-dragoncry-do-not-trade-sell-buy-with-this-guy-on-epic7.1665143/#post-6934366
He scammed me come on discord I'm gonna explain Kazuma#6393
 
Banned - failed to respond https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/a-weird-situation.1967483/
Lmao what happens on the thread stays on the thread. Why don't you "explain" here like I did?
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - failed to respond https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/a-weird-situation.1967483/
Also more updates @Angel

Kazuma just tried to scam me yet again with another set of accounts, EpicNPC hello7868 or something (just check recent account creation audit log).

His new discord was E7 TRADER #1587 (suspiciously named but now deleted).

Evidence here:
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There you go! Explain this Kazuma!
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammed-by-dragoncry-do-not-trade-sell-buy-with-this-guy-on-epic7.1665143/#post-6934366
I can explain because it's not me proof that its me plz because in my country its 2 am do I was sleeping
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
@iiceberg the Discord ID posted above is 732758607636201604
@Dragoncry Discord ID 614317296240033793

As you can see they do not match so its most likely that you were scammed by an impersonator. Please try to use the website's private message in the future. It has been upgraded recently and its nearly on the Discord level when is about flexibility and speed so there is not needed to use another chat client for the accounts trade.

Moving this to offsite scammers forum.

@Dragoncry please open a feedback dispute to get your negative feedback removed https://www.epicnpc.com/forums/feedback-disputes.62/
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - failed to respond https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/a-weird-situation.1967483/
? I don't understand. The account we traded was the exact same as the one he had on the relevant listing, so it could not have been an impersonator. Therefore I don't understand why the dispute is being resolved at all.

Are you talking about E7 TRADER? He had just created a new account yesterday - I'm almost sure it's Kazuma. (Discord told me it was a new member and the name is so uncreative like when someone's trying to quickly get back at you).

He was thinking he could "trade" for the other account he wasn't able to delete the heroes on so that he could delete the heroes and subsequently scam me once more - at that point no loss for him since all his accounts were (and are) reported. And @Angel were you able to detect a new account named "Hello7868" or sth created a few days ago? That's him on another IP.

Also @Dragoncry you really think saying that it's 2 AM where you live justifies your claim that it wasn't you? THE LAST TIME I BUMPED MY POST WAS HALF A MONTH AGO. YOU WERE BLUSTERING TO PROVE I HAD AN A RAVI ACCOUNT WHEN I NEVER MENTIONED IT IN MY PREVIOUS POSTS - see for yourself!! Also through his regular discord account (Kazuma#6393) he had always contacted me at that time (~8 PM PST) so he could not possibly have been sleeping. Your arguments are starting to break down, dude.

If this dispute has to be resolved (however, after I get my Discord data I have a truckload more of evidence against Kazuma), I sincerely hope you can take the time to appreciate what you have and not scam fellow members on the forum by recalling your account and ruining other peoples' day by deleting all their units. It's not cool bro, some units are very hard to get in case you didn't know.
 
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