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DisputeDate: 29, jun 2017
Methodof Contact Used: Skype
InstantMessenger username of the person you're accusing:"live:cheonsongyi00"
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: "cheonsongyi00"
YourInstant Messenger ID: sax.syx

Otherinformation:

DISPUTEInformation

Whatis the dispute about? Item/Account
Linkof transactionthread: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1109969-5-1k-solo-mmr-3-5k-pt-mmr?highlight=cheonsongyi00
Approximatevalue of property: 45 USd
Wasa middleman used? no

Provideinformation about the dispute and what lead to it: I am the buyer heis the seller. I did not recieve anything or an answer after I gavehim my items

Proof


Otherproof:
Look at his thread to see his skype profile

To show that I am not lying and really got scammed:

Ok so here i talk aboutwhich items i am going to give for him
http://imgur.com/vxthXw1

Mysteam trade history
http://imgur.com/5zveDXb

Noresponse
http://imgur.com/1QN4j6g


NOTE that on thetrade history img you can see that it took place on 28. april whichyou can also see on the last image where I say done and talk for thelast time.

AdditionalInformation

Didyou do any background searching before the transaction? no
Haveyou traded with this person before? noo
 
Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1153691-scammed-by-cheonsongyi00
So, okay after i posted regarding on spaceboys dispute. Someone posted a dispute against me. I never had a transaction with you, plus the account you showed is not mine. You said that I scammed you on april 28, then why would you only post it now after i posted a thread against spaceboys? And you said you are going to buy it for 45$? but you only give 25$ for that account? and you go first for that? Are you really sure? Is there someone out there that is willing to give his account by 25$ which is he selling for 45? What do you think is the logic there? Ofcourse, there is something fishy about it. If I were you, I'm going to give it full because no one will sell an account giving it for half price without an assurance. If you have middleman I can agree with that tho you didn't have.

By the way, What I am curious is that. You registered on this forum right? So it means that you knew that there is an admin or moderator in this forum. Let's say you didn't know that there's a certain thread regarding on the disputes but all sites have its own Contact us button, you cannot deny it.So, why wouldn't you try to tell them after you had been scammed? makes no sense. Little advice for you, always look for a middleman before having an online transaction unless they have high feedback or reputation.

Your messenger name is sax.syx right? Here's our conversation

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It doesn't matter, it wouldn't prove anything anyway as he can simply remove him as a contact to get that image.

Kadotaded the images you posted don't show any proof. I don't know who you're talking to on Discord and I don't know who you traded with on Steam.

Please show the Discord profile showing the username then show the chat where he told you his Steam URL or username.
 
WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.
Banned - Scammer - Too many disputes- https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1233328-Dispute-against-SPACEBOYS
admin this is not discord, it is just windows 10 skype ( dark version )
i submit the proves buyer sent me before here, hope it helps

cheonsongyi00 ( skype )
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where he mention his skype and username
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Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1153691-scammed-by-cheonsongyi00
For that, what I am trying to say is that I didn't have any conversation with him so far, so If I ever added him on skype there would be a conversation or info that will show that we had any communication. Are you really sure that the one you added is me? Or you just making an unreasonable dispute for me? I just don't really get it why is it only happen now after I just post a dispute against spaceboys. Lol
 
Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1153691-scammed-by-cheonsongyi00
So what are you trying to prove there?
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It looks like spaceboys is the one who made a dispute here. Hahaha I just don't know why you are the one who's talking instead of kadotaded. Is that because I scammed you both or both of you are up to something?
 
Spaceboys, you are not involved in this dispute. Please do not post anymore. Kadotaded needs to post his own proof.

steamcommunity.com/id/krs14
I checked this profile yesterday and it doesn't exist so he must have changed it.


The chat images start on April 25 and you talk to April 26. Then they jump to the 28th where the thread is started and the scam happens.
http://i.imgur.com/znpCTOL.png

I also still see no Steam URL info in the chat. Kadotaded hover over the Steam image and it will show the URL.

We now have 2 conflicting images

1) This shows the scam using live:cheonsongyi00
http://i.imgur.com/znpCTOL.png

2) This shows live:cheonsongyi00 never talked to Kadotaded
http://res.cloudinary.com/mmobay-llc/image/upload/v1498750125/m6jt9rq3rlljvothsqvc.jpg

At this time images are no longer accepted. Only video.

Both of you post the following video.

On your Skype profile, show me your Skype profile first so I can confirm what Skype account you are using. Then go to the chat and show the other persons Skype profile. Then show the full chat. In the chat, hover over the Steam image so the URL displays. Upload the video to Youtube and either post here or send me the video URL in a private message.
Free screen recorder - http://camstudio.org/
 
Ok sorry for not replying I am online now and want to talk a bit first. Your arguments are that it would make no sense to report you after only a long time and you claim that we never talked to each other. It´s enough of a proof to only show our conversation that I will proof to be real to make clear that you are a scammer. Now I dont know why you dont make a comment to the pictures that I sent to SPACEBOYS (ill proof the it.m in a video). We agreed on those chats that I give u about half of the money first and the rest later why would it be dumb for the SCAMMMER to just take the money fast and then go away with it? Also with that you wont have to give me the account at all. About the fact that I didnt report you, well It would not have any benefits for me to just report you. I would not get my money back anyway plus I wasnt really mad at 20 dollars so I just went on. But now that I see that you still have nothing to do but scam other people for a living and I want to empower other victims arguments and get rid of you, by also showing how you scammed me in the past.
Now goign to make a video and show how you try to change your name into chinese letters so that noone finds you(lol?) and proof our conversation and that should be the final execution, we will see how you can react to that.
 
Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1153691-scammed-by-cheonsongyi00
Oh okay, It's not my loss to begin with. Looks like you are really mad about it, tho ofcourse you've been scammed. Do you really think I'm that one that you sent your items? hahahaha. Anyways, I already prove myself here so no more explanation. Just report that steam account so he'll be ban in steam trading system since you sent your items without any getting items. Just a piece of advice. Becareful when trying to have a transaction online, always check it on epic npc.
 
Yes, I received the video and it shows the full chat with live:cheonsongyi00 on Skype using his Skype sax.syx

From what I know, it is possible to delete Skype conversations by either clearing all Skype chat history or downloading a tool that allows you to delete the history of a specific person. However I'm unware of any tool that allows you to create a fake skype conversation.

Since I have 2 video showing 2 different things I am going to assume cheonsongyi00 used the delete tool to remove the conversation from his computer.

cheonsongyi00 owes $45 to kadotaded. Ban in 48 hrs if payment is not made.
 
cheonsongyi00 was online yesterday and failed to reply. He's been banned.

scammers info:
[email protected]
live:cheonsongyi00


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