Impersonator

[WMCJO]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 10/05/2020
Date the problem began: 10/05/2020
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: Bobu#4123
EpicNPC Profile: https://www.epicnpc.com/feedback/275961
Your Instant Messenger ID: Icicle#0458
Other information: None


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/sc-heist-exalts-0-88-each-stock-0.1726047/
Approximate value of property: $113.10 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about? Sold my Exalted orbs to Bobu, didn't receive payment and he is now ignoring my attempts to contact him.

Other details / notes: None.


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!


Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

User confirmed that he was not an impersonator from a private chat on forums.
Notice the copy-pasted reply in Screenshot #1 relative to screenshot #4.
They're the same message.


Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
None. He never paid me.









Other proof:




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[Angel]

@Bobu notified

 

[Bobu]

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Hi, so someone contacted me with the Discord "Homa#7546" and asked for a GW2 boost, and then to verify it's me on EpicNPC, which I did. (see my screenshot)

I later see I get a negative feedback from @WMCJO So I message who I thought was him on Discord but blocked me (same screenshot)
Then I realize @WMCJO's Discord is actually "Icicle#0458", so I add him and we have never discussed before.
See second screenshot (error message is saying we are not on the same server, because he did not accept me yet)

So it's simple: someone on Discord claimed to be me, scammer asked me to verify EpicNPC account to get my reply and send to the buyer (@WMCJO) and that's why I get a negative feedback even though we never traded... ALL my threads are about Guild Wars games...

 

[WMCJO]

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The only simple thing about this is your guilt.
Lets say, hypothetically, that it really WAS an impersonator.
This doesn't change the fact that your EpicNPC profile was available for use at the exact same time the chat was going on.
Not only that, they somehow (through some miracle right?) had access to your private chat logs and were able to copy-paste your exact reply.
Explain this please.
You claim that the scammer got your reply to send to my discord, yet you yourself replied in the exact same manner in our own private chat. I hope you realize that the admins have access to private chat logs.

 

[Bobu]

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I don't think you understood what I explained, you are so convinced I scammed you that you are not even reading. Let me explain again:

I DID send you a message on EpicNPC so you could verify it's me, and the scammer (who used my rep and name) asked me at the same time on Discord (Homa, check screenshot) to verify the EpicNPC PM.

That's how he could claim it was me.
It's simple, just check your Discord discussions, there is one with this "Bobu" who scammed you, and one with me trying to prove my innonce, and we never discussed before your negative feedback... I added you later and you accepted after too.

 

[Bobu]

to prove my innoncence* sorry about this.

 

[Bobu]

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You can clearly see in your Discord 2 different Bobu, so why are you still convinced it was me?
Someone used my rep to scam you...

 

[Bobu]

One conversation with me, one with the other guy who scammed you. So it is quite easy to understand it was not me.

 

[WMCJO]

You can clearly see in your Discord 2 different Bobu, so why are you still convinced it was me?
Someone used my rep to scam you...

And yet you gave me some one-dimensional reply about "Yes, I am Bobu", yet paid no attention to the rest of the message?
Be aware, I asked you to confirm your participation in the sales of exalts as indicated in the private chat screenshot.
You confirmed it with your Private message.

 

[Bobu]

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I did not confirm anything. On Discord the guy confirmed it was your EpicNPC name, so I gave him the message (like in the screenshot)

Let's do this, it's quite simple to check:
Put developer mode on Discord and check REAL Discord ID of both of the Discord you have. One is mine (you or mod can check) :
My Discord ID is 385105091822092310

And check his. They are different, and the conversation with this other Bobu (and different Discord ID) is not with my Discord. As simple as that.

 

[Bobu]

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If it helps, the Discord "Homa" who contacted me just to get the EpicNPC message I sent you by claiming to be you has this Discord ID: 756672369967366164

And yours, if it helps, is: 151891359639273472

 

[Bobu]

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Btw, what I learned from all this is that I will now put my full Discord ID (385105091822092310 ) for people to add me so they don't have some guy using my rep and name to scam people on a game I don't even play...

 

[Bobu]

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And again, like I said many times to you, I am sorry if you got scammed, and I am sorry someone else is using my name and rep to scam people. If you could share his Discord ID (full) that will probably help to prevent people to trade with this guy.

 

[WMCJO]

Even assuming that you were not the one who scammed me, you share a portion of the blame for being unable to read two sentences comprehensively (see: PM screenshot) and respond appropriately.

 

[Angel]

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I believe that you are both guilty here by using a Discord even after we warned a million times that you are using discord on your own risk. The next time please use the website private message for communication with each other.

I have confirmed that this is an impersonator. Moving this on the offsite scammer's forum.