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Scam dispute against Limbopause (Recalled account)

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Dispute Type
Scam Accusation
Country
Canada
Multiple Accounts
1
Dispute Against
Limbopause
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Information
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Purchase Date: 2019-05-08
Date the problem begain: 2019-05-30
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord & Epicnpc Direct messages.
Discord ID: kuklyag#3065


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Other information:
I'm opening this dispute on my alt account to avoid unnecessary drama!
My main is "Tic Tac"


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/mr25-founder-grandmaster-800.1455988/
Approximate value of property: $800.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? no
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? -


What is the dispute about?

I purchased an account from this reseller on 8th of May. The account does not belong to him, but the email does. He recovered the email on May 30th and resold it to @Vionx the same day.
I recovered the email of the account today after finding out what happened (its not rocket science recovering gmails) and upon running through the activity log, i discovered two ip address, one of which belongs to Limbopause and the other to the chinese buyer (both of them were confirmed by admin EpicNPC )
Since the account is exposed and vulnerable to bans, and not having the will to play recovery games with him and his buyer, I no longer want the account.
I asked him for full refund and he is playing victim.



Other details / notes:
I have paid him via goods and services and clearly mentioned there will be a chargeback if recovery happens, I just need him suspended on here before opening a dispute with this dispute link attached.



Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment and chat screenshots:

Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible): his paypal email ([email protected])

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Other proof:


Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) No, but he is the owner of the email which was recovered.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
account email: [email protected]
account username: Arxangelov


How long did you have the account before it was recalled? about roughly 3 weeks.
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.


Gmail Activity Log screenshot of his recovery (IP confirmed to be his by our admin):
Notice how the sale was done on May 8th but he recovered and logged into it on May 30th.


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Warnings sent to me by Gmail support about the owner's (limbopause) attempts on recovering the email:

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@Limbopause Excuse me, but can you help explain why you decided to recover the account?
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
TicTac has tied an account to its mail. My mail is not transmitted
 
I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but I will assume you are claiming innocence. To which I say, you are lying.

The IP used to recover the email directly links to you.

You must refund him what he paid. Please do so immediately.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
account access to this person
 
I should've known when he relisted the account on Playerauctions, I thought it was a different account...
https://www.playerauctions.com/warframe-account/144631042a!mr25-grandmaster-founder/

@SaltnVinegar hey, I don't think he will refund. I would have to force it on paypal. It would help me if you reply below, his paypal email, full name, username and anything relevant when you suspend him (please also include a short description of the reason so it would be easier on paypal staffs). Thank you!
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
24 hours. ok. I think over the answer. do not drive horses. )
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
After making the payment, the buyer receives the account data and the email to which the account is linked. The buyer by his efforts binds the account to his email and confirms the establishment of full control over the account. what the buyer and said in a conversation. Restoring my access to my email is not restoring access to a sold account, since the account sold is linked to the email address of the buyer. Self change buyer email is carried out in confidence. For the same purpose, the game nickname is changed and carried out by the buyer.
 
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I just recovered the email back to show he is lying again...
Only staff can view this content.

So basically, i didn't change anything and the chinese buyer took it back yesterday, and i recovered it again now to disprove his idiotic claim of me changing the email to mine. Scammers are getting worse coming up with reasons these days...

As you can see the email is still the same on the grand master account which he sold me (he has however changed the account name to Taksim).
Also warframe has a limitation where you can only change email every 2 months or so, screenshot included in the above link (which he already did and changed to [email protected])

I don't think it would be necessary, but if you need any further proofs, i can just recover the email back and send the info to you so you can investigate it further.

I'm certain he won't refund and will just come up with more and more childish excuses to drag this. Please serve justice to him as soon you can, so i can chargeback.
As I said earlier, please also add a reply below before closing the thread with his paypal email, name, discord ID, as well as a short description of the reason he was punished. Much appreciated.

Thank you everyone!
 
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Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
To the specified email account is attached, which you did not buy. This is a completely different account. You, using gmail imperfection, took advantage of this and stole an account that does not belong to you.
 
you do realize i can let the admin login to the account whenever and let them check everything including activity log, login to the site, anything needed right?
not to mention i already know to whom you resold the account.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
You absolutely do not know what account I sold, because the email is not directly linked to the game account. Talking about the ownership of the account can only be based on information from the technical support game
 
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2 more hours and please provide a verdict. His 24 hours has almost ran out.
I do not want to drag this on, it feels like talking to child who stole a candy and trying hard to look innocent while its stuffed in their mouth.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
your impatience is not a weighty argument in dispute. you have to prove that the account that I sold to you is in the hands of another person. This can confirm the technical support of the game. Now the owner of another account that owns the specified email can claim a refund from you. since you stole his account.
 
Banned - Scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-dispute-against-limbopause-recalled-account.1466242
Have you studied my arguments? Requested Buyer Confirmation?
 
@Limbopause It's confirmed you recovered the account which was sold to him. That is all the proof I need to judge. Anything else is a waste of time. I instructed you to refund, gave you time to do so, and you refused.

Since you refuse to refund, you have been banned as a scammer.

Limbopause
kuklyag#3065
[email protected]
[email protected]

@No Ragrets Sorry for your loss. Goodluck with your PayPal dispute.
 
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