Scam accusation

[PonyMoly]

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Information
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Purchase Date: Yesterday(ı sold)
Date the problem begain:October 21
Method of Contact Used (chat progam)iscord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusingiscord:siven7189 Epicnpc:https://www.epicnpc.com/members/siveneesti.674590/
Your Instant Messenger ID:MY DİSCORD: IJVZ#3132 Epicnpc:https://www.epicnpc.com/members/ponymoly.1152131/


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread):
Approximate value of property: $155
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?https://www.epicnpc.com/members/mercurial003.283226/. mercurial003


What is the dispute about?

Other details / notes:


Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):https://www.epicnpc.com/attachments...941496/?hash=891286d4461fba44b3c103bd8d82bdaf
Other proof:
https://www.epicnpc.com/attachments...941495/?hash=891286d4461fba44b3c103bd8d82bdaf
changed the name of the ss char my friend threw and left the guild:https://www.epicnpc.com/attachments...941501/?hash=891286d4461fba44b3c103bd8d82bdaf



Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof) no
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) no just this:https://www.epicnpc.com/attachments...941504/?hash=891286d4461fba44b3c103bd8d82bdaf
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? about 9-10 months
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)

 

[mercurial003]

Trade Guardian ID: #28335

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

https://imgur.com/SSBHorD

u said u banned ur account?
and keep asking me again for money?
u sell me what then? account trading is not allowed and i wanted to report ur account anyway after you took it back.
anyway yesterday he changed email and game password i could not loggin any of them.
also he said clearly he banned account so how i can have it? and what money u want from me? I DONT HAVE UR ACCCOUNT!

 

[PonyMoly]

I'm watching everything you do step by step from my friends in your play, you keep lying

 

[PonyMoly]

This is your ıp adress

 

[PonyMoly]

you didn't give the money and i have evidence that you played

 

[PonyMoly]

....

 

[PonyMoly]

...

 

[PonyMoly]

I'm chasing step by step, liar

 

[PonyMoly]

....

 

[mercurial003]

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Summary of this:

Seller: BDO Gamezbd Private Server Account linked to mail.com.tr (has no security option except password)
Buyer: Paid with SEPA because seller asked this way(no paypal in turkey)

1. I warned buyer multiple times that is risky to buy this account because the email has no security option. I showed him screenshots from the mail settings an inbox with multiple password changes of the game account.
2. Buyer decided to pay the seller, seller agreed to give the account to buyer EVEN TOUGH he didn't received the payment yet. The payment was supposed to be received next day.
3. Hours later the seller messaged me because the buyer deleted screenshot of the payment receipt from discord.
4. Hours later the buyer messaged me because he doesn't have access to the game account anymore. I told him to open a Dispute Thread but he didn't want to. He called bank and said the money will be refunded.
5. Hours later seller started to spam the group chat asking for his money and other things(i wasn't online at that time). I told him when i went online and told him also to open a Dispute Thread. He said that he banned the account because he didn't received any money.

Trade Guardian ID: #28335

I'll let an Admin or Supermoderator to handle this.

 

[PonyMoly]

I reached out to the game admin and told him that my account was stolen, and asked him to ban him for providing the necessary evidence

 

[PonyMoly]

And in no way I got paid and I know that you played your family name and name changed

 

[PonyMoly]

he's always lying

 

[PonyMoly]

..

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

you didn't give the money and i have evidence that you played

ofcoors i played i had account before u took it back..
so that was all along ur plan? money comes u provide evidence i stole account and get it back no problems?
dude u specificaly asked me TO CHANGE NAME AND FAMILY!!!

https://imgur.com/MQL5qXt

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

I reached out to the game admin and told him that my account was stolen, and asked him to ban him for providing the necessary evidence

nice plan sell account get money write to admin ´´account stolen´´ get account back sell again... rinse and reapat!
thats why hes email looked like that.

https://imgur.com/nFyvkoX

 

[PonyMoly]

I wanted it and you changed it, but now you bet that I got the account back 1-2 hours after playing, you have the money in the account

 

[PonyMoly]

but my friends say you play

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

but my friends say you play

my friends say alot of things also thats how friends work.
how i play u SAID U BANNED ACCOUNT???
get ur facts straight allready and stop this acting... i wont send u money enjoy ur account.

 

[PonyMoly]

Homless ***** go f ur self

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

i just checked my other account

https://imgur.com/CDEraG4

he actualy told kolkaz i stole hes account and kolkaz belived him and banned even my hardware ID.
this guy just took hes account back when i lost access to it.
and u belive him and but warning on me nice work epicnpc let the scammer work free hes account is clean also so he can sell saame account in here after few months.

 

[Angel]

@mercurial003 can you please post a TG conversation image or only a part where i am accused of something.

 

[mercurial003]

siveneesti said this, i think you were MM for his transaction previously. Since he didn't express himself clearly i tought he meant that you tried to trick him buying an account with AOL mail. He should have said "the other guy" or "seller" and i told him that you didn't do that.
It was a misunderstooding, no one accused you @Angel

 

[Angel]

Thanks mate. Yes, it's true i was a MM and the seller wanted to sell him the account with AOL email so i warned him that i am unable to secure AOL and the transaction has been canceled.

I am going to close this until tomorrow when i will be able to take a better review as i am still weak from Covid.

 

[Angel]

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I would like to clear with you guys what started whole this mess? The fact that the buyer deleted the payment screenshot from discord or that seller did not receive the money even the day after?

How long it passed after TG transaction is made and the account recall?

 

[siveneesti]

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Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

i dont know what happened with payment screen he asked again i sent him immideatly another one and then it all started like 10 mins later . it was like 4-5 hours total after buying the account.
email pw changed and account aswell.. i immideatly tryd to contact him but he blocked me on discord and me and mercury tryd to reach him in transaction chat....
after that i called in bank to try to save money... luckily since the payment was out OF EU it takes 2-3 days and first thing in the morning bank canceled transaction.
then next day seller comes in asking for money for the account i dont have access.
i think he friend or somthing who knows kolkaz owner of the gamezbd server.
seller asked hes account back by telling kolkaz i STOLE hes account .
i got HWID banned in gamezbd server (my own account lost coz of this also)so i cant even understand why i have to protect myself here? why i have warning? seller has 0 proofs i have hes account .
i am HWID banned for no reason .... i made screenshot when im HWID banned on my own account also we have screens on seller email with lot of password reset requests and even mercury(tradeguardian) said to be carful and is my own money.
i think seller have sold same account somewhere else also coz price was super cheap he had almost maxxed account and asked 190USD what i managed to bargain to 155... hes account should been like 400 minimal....
so short story i dont have hes account i am HWID banned only SELLER knows WHY. i managed to get my money back .
im prety sure he has the account back coz he or hes friends know kolkaz...
so i dont even know how tradeguardians can secure gamezbd accounts its seems when u know kolkaz u get ur account back nomatter what.... i got my lesson theres no point to buy some1 else accounts first owner gets it back no matter what.

 

[PonyMoly]

stop lying my friend, that day, I did all my transactions on the phone, I did not even have the internet and I slept after I transferred the account to you, when I woke up, my message did not go, and there is proof of that and you deleted the second ss you threw, I never got the account back and in the morning I asked my friends if you found you and played you

 

[PonyMoly]

and they said they saw you in the game please stop lying and be open

 

[PonyMoly]

and banned the account so you can't play

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

and banned the account so you can't play

so what u want from me? u banned account so how i can have ur account? and yes ur phone works without internet right?
what we are doing here at all @Angel? SELLER just told us he banned the account so i dont have it clearly so what is my offence here?

 

[PonyMoly]

your phone has internet where do you live my friend

 

[PonyMoly]

I can reopen the ban but if you send the money

 

[PonyMoly]

The money didn't come and you deleted me from friendship and then claimed it was stolen

 

[PonyMoly]

but nothing like that happened

 

[PonyMoly]

And if you realized when I said above, you didn't defend yourself which means I'm telling the truth

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

And if you realized when I said above, you didn't defend yourself which means I'm telling the truth

i dont need to defend myself i have done nothing wrong.
and this is my last reply to u its pointless as i said before enjoy ur account

 

[PonyMoly]

IF MY FRIEND DOES NOT HAVE MONEY PLEASE ENTER THIS JOB

 

[PonyMoly]

I knew it would be like this and if the admins read all the correspondence properly, they can clearly understand who is right.

 

[Angel]

@PonyMoly why did you not open a dispute before you take the action on your own and recalled the account? How do you expect now that we can prove anything here when he claims that he called his bank and stopped his payment.
You gave him the account to play in expect that you will receive the payment in 24 hrs but you blocked the account a few hours from that. Why?

 

[PonyMoly]

No, not after a few hours, but the next day when I wrote in the morning, he was removed from friendship

 

[PonyMoly]

 

[PonyMoly]

It states that I am blocked

 

[Angel]

Please post an image with the entire part where you tried to contact him and where it is shown that you are blocked

 

[PonyMoly]

 

[PonyMoly]

https://img.epicnpc.com/xf/internal...2175081-2778f5a7ba5440b87178f67f3117b30e.data

 

[siveneesti]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

@PonyMoly why did you not open a dispute before you take the action on your own and recalled the account? How do you expect now that we can prove anything here when he claims that he called his bank and stopped his payment.
You gave him the account to play in expect that you will receive the payment in 24 hrs but you blocked the account a few hours from that. Why?

acount was lost 23:58 i instantly told mercury aswell.. mercury asked me to check if he blocked me. i checked hes name and there was add friend so when he blocked me i got deleted from hes friendlist.
now he cant write me because discord privacy settings wont allow to write when hes not im my friendlist.
now he ask multiple times from me to send money so he unbann the account lol this seller is FISH.

 

[Angel]

This shows that you take the account before you tried to ask him for the payment. Why you did not try to contact him before you recalled the account?

 

[siveneesti]

Banned - Failed to resolve https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-accusation.1758697/

https://imgur.com/QLL7b68

see i dident block him

 

[PonyMoly]

man blocked me and i can't write to man how can i request?