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Saintlymurder took the giftcards and did not deliver. Izz#0005 on discord

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Purchase Date: 25th December 2022
Date the problem began: 25th December 2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username] : saintlymurder(epicnpc), evangeline#0005(discord),izz#0005(discord)
Your Instant Messenger ID: jereng19(epicnpc),Jeremy#8844

Other information: evangeline#0005 is the contact person on the Epicnpc link and directed me to the scammer. Probably in cahoots with the scammer.


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/cheap-whale-genshin-88x5.2397133/
Approximate value of property: 600 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? : no
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? : nil

What is the dispute about? : Took the giftcard i send them and did not deliver account.

It all started when I added and DM Evangeline#0005 on discord to enquire about the account as stated on the epicnpc account link thread. Evangeline#0005 quoted me 200USD and i also shared with her that i can only do Paypal Goods & Services as my country do not have Paypal Family & Friends. I offered to pay for the taxes incurred for G&S. Evangeline#0005 checked and said that this account do not belong to her and is a friend account and shared that she is open to accepting Apple giftcard as payment. She then directed me to her friend Izz#0005 as Evangeline#0005 claimed the account belong to Izz#0005. ( refer to pic 1 - 4 for full conversation,)

I contacted Izz#0005 and stated that i am interested in her account and was referred to her by Evangeline#0005. I asked her the email address in which i can send the giftcards to. She gave me this email address " [email protected]". I then went on to tell her that because i am not a US citizen, my card cannot work on the websites. We went on to try different website of which none can work. I then ask for Paypal to be used of which they share a sob story with me on how they did it before and the buyer ask for a refund. I relented and paid for some spotify giftcards which they subsequently claimed its not what they wanted. They then ask me to purchase netflix giftcards which i refused and insisted on Paypal. I paypal to the paypal username of "saintlymurder" after which they received the money and did not respond with the account credientials or anything ( see pic 31) Izz#0005 only after me saying i will report her gave me an excuse that she was busy and claim to be a well known MM of "yaes". However, the channel link she send me did not have the name of "yaes" and instead took on "Meiko". She then proceeded on with refunding me and because i was eager to get the account, i relented and bought her the giftcards she asked for. At 4.37PM( my country time, which is 11.37AM her country time, she is from qatar), she message me saying she has yet to receive it(see pic 47). However, the attachment "proof of collection" clearly show that they have collected that. After that, she went silent and did not reply. It should also be noted that their discord channel "Meiko" is just a giant channel for scamming. I contacted the mod from meiko, opened a ticket to investigate Izz#0005. The mod started off as helpful and pretended to help but subsequently reveal herself to be aware of their members deed. Mod ended the conversation with " LMFAO get scammed" and kick me out. I was'nt able to ss that part fast enough before i was kicked out.

Whole Conversation with Izz#0005 is found from pic 8 - 49

Other details / notes: Scammer made promises to get things done and did not deliver. Discord tag Evangeline#0005 probably in cahoots with them to scam.


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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/p8gqusgfri4hdu8ocpyn0/h?dl=0&rlkey=esesauhrs2aq2o7g93ml9gr3u
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof: Please look at the dropbox link for all the relevant screenshots.
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my explanation : (i am evangeline, izz impersonated my name on paypal) i refer people to other people for selling, i help people sell in exchange for a fee of $15 as i need the money, i simply referred jeremy to one of my sellers, i have around 3 frequent ones and i always recommend mm, however jeremy and izz (the seller) went first and it is not in my control as it isn’t me who told them anything , i am staff in ksf trusted servers and i wouldn’t want this to happen so after i learnt about the scamming i told him i’d find an account in exchange for no fee. he said he would withdraw the report as he thought me and izz were same person, as you can see from my previous reports this isn’t the first time someone impersonated me.
 

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I'm sorry, we do not investigate a dispute if TG wasn't used.

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