PP Chargeback / USER: Jizeff

[chris4321]

Dispute Against

Jizeff

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Information
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Purchase Date: 19 Feb 2020
Date the problem begain: 20 Feb 2020
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: [not the display name, must be real username]: Tummy
Your Instant Messenger ID: Blanka

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/orc-rogue-na-5-8-t1-2-8-t2-core-hound-aglc-450.1567124/
Approximate value of property: $XXX.XX USD : $400.00
Was Trade Guardian used? No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?
Chargeback via Paypal

Other details / notes:


Proof
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Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:

 

[Angel]

@Jizeff notified

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

Account not taken. Said to be OO but name of Registered account owner did not match, nor did the name on the email attached. Repped member so I thought I shouldn't worry but did not sit right with me, and didn't make sense.

 

[chris4321]

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Account not taken. Said to be OO but name of Registered account owner did not match, nor did the name on the email attached. Repped member so I thought I shouldn't worry but did not sit right with me, and didn't make sense.

“Account not taken”
The account has been given to you and so has the information to the account. Stating the account was not taken is not true as you logged into the account.

“OO”
You are judging an account name based off a fake gmail that was made and my paypal name. This doesn’t qualify of me not being an OO of an account and is considered speculation. Instead, you decided to initiated a chargeback through your bank.


The money has been chargeback via PayPal with no Discord communication or any type feedback from you concerning the issue. Instead, you decided to take matter into your own hands without even reaching out to me. I don’t have access to the account with the email I provided as all recovery options have been changed. You have all sensitive information for the account now with money back in your pocket.

These actions are your standard excuses of a scammer. Sadly, coming from a user from 2013 is even sadder.

We truly could have come to some sort of agreement with each other privately vi discord as opposed to doing what has been done.

Everything has been provided on my part and still have yet to receive a response from Jizeff.

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

I did not change any information on the email nor did I change any information on the account as I stated nothing on the account has been changed everything that you communicated to me is as it was it actually locked me out of the email which alarmed me

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

The account was registered under a Patrick the email was registered under a den your PayPal email name was registered under a Chris seemed very odd to me

 

[chris4321]

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I did not change any information on the email nor did I change any information on the account as I stated nothing on the account has been changed everything that you communicated to me is as it was it actually locked me out of the email which alarmed me

This current statement is completely false.


Here is the attached documentation of our discussion via discord and the changes that went through Timestamping the google changes via alerts email and text message.

The original Gmail the account was under is now closed.

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

again, the email locked me out and I could not log in to make changes. Does not add up why are there three different names tied to the account?

why did I got locked out of the email?

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

You have access to the WoW account and can change email if you wanted. Secondly, the original owner would be able to claim the account back because they'd have all the information and the Id on their side. It'd easy enough to change the email of the account if that is what you supposedly have no access to. As I stated, I was locked out of the email very Serie circumstances...

 

[adsterr988]

wow sorry to hear bro..

 

[Angel]

In the chat posted by the seller, it's clear that jizeff secured the account

@Jizeff have you tried to contact the seller about your concerns? If yes please please post an image

 

[Jizeff]

Banned - Scam attempt - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pp-chargeback-user-jizeff.1568885/#post-6658484

I logged in to check infos but nowhere does it state i "secured" the account. I was even asked not to change the email if i could for the safety of the account. I've never heard of this before, and received no response when asking if changing the email was an issue.

Also, since the original owner thought it'd be a good idea showing the account info, please do me a favor and try to log in into battlenet and you'll see the info is exactly the same as he provided.

I did not take ownership of the account, things just seemed strange starting with 3 different names, 1 for paypal, 1 for the account, 1 for the email.

 

[chris4321]

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I logged in to check infos but nowhere does it state i "secured" the account. I was even asked not to change the email if i could for the safety of the account. I've never heard of this before, and received no response when asking if changing the email was an issue.

Also, since the original owner thought it'd be a good idea showing the account info, please do me a favor and try to log in into battlenet and you'll see the info is exactly the same as he provided.

I did not take ownership of the account, things just seemed strange starting with 3 different names, 1 for paypal, 1 for the account, 1 for the email.

I have recently took back ownership of the account now. I’ve changed the proper security options as the info did still work regarding Bnet. The Gmail has been discontinued.

I have provided proof of you “securing the account” so I am unsure on why you are denying this statement still.

Regardless, having account Information to an account that was sold to you and then initiating a chargeback via PayPal while keeping the account information without any type of response on discord or even reaching out to me to discuss the matter should be uncalled for. Taking matters into your own “hands” and going off your own speculations about the account security is still consider a scam. We could have solved this together and probably peacefully with both of us being civil. instead you insisted on taking things into your own hands.

In all Angel, I appreciate your help in this matter. The account has been secured again, but I truly hope some sort of action can be put against Jizeff as users as him should not be allowed to use Epicnpc unscathed.

 

[Angel]

I logged in to check infos but nowhere does it state i "secured" the account. I was even asked not to change the email if i could for the safety of the account. I've never heard of this before, and received no response when asking if changing the email was an issue.

Also, since the original owner thought it'd be a good idea showing the account info, please do me a favor and try to log in into battlenet and you'll see the info is exactly the same as he provided.

I did not take ownership of the account, things just seemed strange starting with 3 different names, 1 for paypal, 1 for the account, 1 for the email.

@Jizeff from the chat image between you and the seller it's clear that you purchased the account and get access to the email. Seller provided the image that recovery email is changed and you issued positive feedback which confirms that sale is made.

Even after you noticed that things are not as you expected as you should contact the seller and ask him to explain things. He is not a new member to have reason to panic, here is a word about the high reputable veteran member who is trusted on the website.

From everything stated above its clear that you attempt to scam the seller so you can't be allowed to continue to use this website anymore.

Banned

Jizeff
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Skype: jeff.cutia