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https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/account-recovered-seller-cannot-refund-loveomar555.2138295/
Refer to this case, all are the same.However I received a new message in the account that this seller has given me as a "replacement" from what seems like the original owner. He claims that he has the recipts and all the various information, I think he didn't attain this account the legit way and tried to write it off.
Information
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Purchase Date: August 7th, 2021
Date the problem began: December 21st, 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord and Trade Guardian
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: NinexD#6039 is their Discord and loveomar555 is their EpicNPC name.
Your Instant Messenger ID: JennyOuO#3847
Other information:
The account purchased was recovered later by the seller, I cannot log in anymore. He claims he was selling on behalf of someone else and that this "seller" has now blocked him. I've lost both money and account.
He claims to have contacted the "seller" but nothing has been resolved. He's asked me in Discord to give him extra time but my patience is thin, I've given him a month and still nothing has been resolved. He's failed to give me back a proper answer or money. I've dealt with sellers like Wilona from Genshin Impact account trading, the moment it was confirmed that her seller was scamming, she repaid me right away.
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/acc-17-vips-for-sell-and-a-lot-of-weapons.2016490/
Approximate value of property: $250.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Transaction #44321
What is the dispute about?
The seller, who is selling an account onbehalf of another user thats outside of EpicNPC, sold me an account that has now been RECOVERED by the original user. He has not refunded me nor have provided me any information how he's planning to get that money back to me.
The game is CrossFire and its currently hosted by z8games.
If I was hacked, I would've gotten a password change message in my e-mail that's associated with the account, but no message was there. The e-mail one day just magically changed, and the password too, I can no longer access account details and cannot show this p[ortion. The only way this can happen is through account recovery through their website. And, the seller here has admitted to it in our personal DMs through discord.
Other details / notes: None
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
This screenshot is a part of the Trade Guardian logs conversations. You can pull it from there. I've written them on there too but they have not replied and have ONLY replied through Discord, which is probably an attempt to keep it discord specific.
What's even more suspicious is that I didn't even know it was recovered, I simply thought I maybe remembered my password wrong until I got the following messages from this seller.
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
This is the payment info through PayPal with the accused e-mail visible. This is also through trade guardian.
Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? No he did not.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Only ID and Password.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? Only 3 Months.
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it. I CAN'T SEND IN A TICKET FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ACCOUNT TO SEND IN TICKETS.,
If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
Refer to this case, all are the same.However I received a new message in the account that this seller has given me as a "replacement" from what seems like the original owner. He claims that he has the recipts and all the various information, I think he didn't attain this account the legit way and tried to write it off.
Information
######################
Purchase Date: August 7th, 2021
Date the problem began: December 21st, 2021
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord and Trade Guardian
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: NinexD#6039 is their Discord and loveomar555 is their EpicNPC name.
Your Instant Messenger ID: JennyOuO#3847
Other information:
The account purchased was recovered later by the seller, I cannot log in anymore. He claims he was selling on behalf of someone else and that this "seller" has now blocked him. I've lost both money and account.
He claims to have contacted the "seller" but nothing has been resolved. He's asked me in Discord to give him extra time but my patience is thin, I've given him a month and still nothing has been resolved. He's failed to give me back a proper answer or money. I've dealt with sellers like Wilona from Genshin Impact account trading, the moment it was confirmed that her seller was scamming, she repaid me right away.
DISPUTE Information
######################
Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/acc-17-vips-for-sell-and-a-lot-of-weapons.2016490/
Approximate value of property: $250.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? Yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID? Transaction #44321
What is the dispute about?
The seller, who is selling an account onbehalf of another user thats outside of EpicNPC, sold me an account that has now been RECOVERED by the original user. He has not refunded me nor have provided me any information how he's planning to get that money back to me.
The game is CrossFire and its currently hosted by z8games.
If I was hacked, I would've gotten a password change message in my e-mail that's associated with the account, but no message was there. The e-mail one day just magically changed, and the password too, I can no longer access account details and cannot show this p[ortion. The only way this can happen is through account recovery through their website. And, the seller here has admitted to it in our personal DMs through discord.
Other details / notes: None
Proof
######################
You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
This screenshot is a part of the Trade Guardian logs conversations. You can pull it from there. I've written them on there too but they have not replied and have ONLY replied through Discord, which is probably an attempt to keep it discord specific.
What's even more suspicious is that I didn't even know it was recovered, I simply thought I maybe remembered my password wrong until I got the following messages from this seller.
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
This is the payment info through PayPal with the accused e-mail visible. This is also through trade guardian.
Account Recalls
######################
Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.
Did the seller say he's the original owner? No he did not.
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? Only ID and Password.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? Only 3 Months.
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it. I CAN'T SEND IN A TICKET FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ACCOUNT TO SEND IN TICKETS.,
If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.
Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
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