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Possible scammer: Drewdenman

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Festergut

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I don't know if Drew is having troubles with his internet but I am opening the thread anyways incase I am really getting scammed.


Information
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Date that scamming took place: 2012-03-23
Method of Contact Used: AIM
Instant Messenger ID of scammer: [email protected]
Your Instant Messenger ID: Icecrowncitadels
EpicNPC Account of Scammer: View Profile: drewdenman - Trade WoW Accounts - World of Warcraft Account Trading - EpicNPC
Other information:

Scam Information
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What was scammed? 1 million gold on Dragonmaw Horde - US
Link of transaction thread: http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-items-go...onmaw-horde-can-transfer-if-you-buy-alot.html
Approximate value of scammed property: $600.00 USD

Was a middleman used? No
If yes, who?
Describe how you were scammed: Drewdenman posted in my thread and contacted me on AIM. We agreed on 0.6$/K so 600$ USD for the 1 million gold. He creates a level 1 toon to get guild bank control, I give him then he logs off wow and aim. He still shows as online on epicnpc but not on AIM anymore.
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Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Logs:

Drew Denman 10:01 pm
hey, you on?
http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-items-go...onmaw-horde-can-transfer-if-you-buy-alot.html
wondering how much you are looking for, cause I would be willing to purchase it all

icecrowncitadels 11:00 pm
hi
I need to wait 7 days before I can sell the gold since I just got GM of the guild
Unless you want to xfer to dragonmaw
Let me know if you want to buy it on dragonmaw
I'll check my aims tommorow morning

Drew Denman 8:38 am
Either way is fine, it's only $25 to xfer the guild, I can do that myself.
How much are you looking for for all of it?

icecrowncitadels 8:47 am
How much $/k are you looking to pay?
Just woke up, sorry for the late response

Drew Denman 8:50 am
Since I am wanting to take it all, I would be looking at .6/k

icecrowncitadels 8:50 am
ok
Well, at 0.6/k and if you take it on my server that could work
Just let me know when you want the gold

Drew Denman 8:58 am
Yep, sorry, in a few minutes, transferring money from my savings to checking (paypal is linked to my checking so it's an instant withdraw)

icecrowncitadels 8:58 am
ok

Drew Denman 8:59 am
Is the guild above level 1?

icecrowncitadels 8:59 am
yep, lvl 4
But you'll have to wait 7 days once you're GM
You probably already know this though :-P

Drew Denman 9:00 am
yea

icecrowncitadels 9:00 am
How come you're buying so much gold?
Its for reselling or personnal use?

Drew Denman 9:01 am
personnal

icecrowncitadels 9:01 am
ok

Drew Denman 9:34 am
ok, money is all set. I am ready to take control of the guild

icecrowncitadels 9:34 am
ôk
Name of your char^
?

Drew Denman 9:35 am
Level 1 Troll Mage named Arlzbrez

icecrowncitadels 9:35 am
Sorry my keyboard messed up lol
ok sec
There you go

Drew Denman 9:36 am
Yea, making way to gbank to check it out, whats your paypal?

icecrowncitadels 9:36 am
*******@hotmail.com

Drew Denman 9:39 am
Ok, did you not want all this stuff in the gbank/

icecrowncitadels 9:39 am
nah
Sending as gift?

Drew Denman 9:41 am
yep

icecrowncitadels 9:41 am
ok ty

Drew Denman ([email protected]) is offline 9:42 am
IMs are delivered when the buddy signs in. Send Drew Denman ([email protected]) a text message

icecrowncitadels 9:43 am
yo?

Pictures/Screenshots:

PICTURE OF ME GIVING HIM GM OF THE GUILD WITH 1 MILLION
zh5vb.png at Free Image Hosting

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Additional Information
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Did you do any background searching before the transaction? Yes, saw that he has no negative feedback, TWV, etc.
Have you traded with this person before? No
Approximately how many transactions have you done on MMOBay? Over 15

---------- Post added 03-23-2012 at 10:13 AM ----------

He just logged back on the lvl 1 toon and got the achievement ''Can I keep him?'' , yet he's not responding to me.

---------- Post added 03-23-2012 at 10:19 AM ----------

This is really not funny, if he's joking he needs to stop right now
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/zmq56

I talked to me, he put me on ignore ingame and kicked me off the guild.
Either Drewman is a scammer or he got his AIM/EpicNPC hacked
 
drewdenman was active yesterday and did not respond.

Seems out of character for drewdenman to not reply. His account will be temp-banned in 24 hrs as a pre-caution in case it was hacked, although I see no evidence of that.

drewdenman has been email notified.
 
drewdenman was active yesterday and did not respond.

Seems out of character for drewdenman to not reply. His account will be temp-banned in 24 hrs as a pre-caution in case it was hacked, although I see no evidence of that.

drewdenman has been email notified.

Good idea.
I tried to contact him in game without success, I instantly get ignored. He (Or the hacker) is leveling the char so he can transfer the guild bank out of the server.

---------- Post added 03-24-2012 at 03:39 PM ----------

Talking to him in skype right now, he's claiming he didn't use mmobay since january
Here's a screenshot of the conversation

fgudi.png at Free Image Hosting

---------- Post added 03-24-2012 at 03:58 PM ----------

[15:49:55] Drew Denman: I see the threads, all I can tell you right now is it was not me (I am currently on leave from work, wife had our second child, and I am currently in Miami [I live in Germany] at a doctor's appointment with my 1 week old soon). I came on Skype using the Hospitals WiFi to see if I could call my wife about something (my phone doesn't work in the states), and I just got your message. I will try to check this again later tonight and reply to the thread as well as see if my passwords were affected.

What I can tell you right now is I am on leave until April 10th (When I go back to Germany) and this is not my main concern. I understand if this upsets you, but my newborn son and wife come first. I will deal with this, just can't guarentee it will be before April 10th. Please post this whole conversation on your Scammer thread.

Looking at my email, I can tell you it has been accessed by someone other than me (gmail shows IP jumps, and there's IP showing up that starts with 12.234 and 216.49 which is saying it's from Kansas).
As for AIM, I used it about 3-4 weeks ago to purchase several SWTOR keys from some mmobay members (had them on my friends list). I bought 2 or 3 cdkeys from Joeuni22 (an active member on the forums), using my PayPal (which I just checked, no illegal charges to it an changed the password just in case). I can tell you that.
[15:53:40] Guillaume Bélisle: ok
[15:53:50] Drew Denman: I am in the process of changing all my passwords right now on everything and having my wife run some anti-virus programs in Safe Mode on my laptop. Again, while this doesn't matter to you, I will be looking into this (hopefully before April 10). In the mean time have you tried filing petitions in-game to get your gold back? I would assume transferring that much would trigger some kind of Blizzard flag.

Again, please post all these on the forums until I can get to a computer and post

---------- Post added 03-24-2012 at 03:58 PM ----------

I haven't used the forums since January when I was selling Legendary Rogue daggers. Please put that in the scammer thread as well (that email I posted, or all of these rather). I am going to email this person back as well and tell him no to deal with me.
 
Just posting in here as he also contacted me about buying gold
http://www.epicnpc.com/wow-items-go...ld-area-52-us-horde-$0-60-1k.html#post2645692

I emailed him back and this was his reply
It appears my EpicMMO account has been hacked. I am talking to another user on Skype right now that someone has scammed using my EpicMMO and AIM account, they also had access to my email (can see the IP logs). Please do not deal with me at all for buying or selling gold.

If you can, please post how I originally contacted you, what I said, and this email in the scammer thread at: http://www.epicnpc.com/scammers/448501-possible-scammer-drewdenman.html
 
just scammed me out of $250, i was trying to sell 1 million gold for $500 and wanted to use multiple payment and he would only settle for two payments... spent around 30 minutes making a guild, gave him GM, and deposited 500k gold... he kicked me out of the guild and logged off and has made no payment.

---------- Post added 03-24-2012 at 09:56 PM ----------

drewdenman was active yesterday and did not respond.

Seems out of character for drewdenman to not reply. His account will be temp-banned in 24 hrs as a pre-caution in case it was hacked, although I see no evidence of that.

drewdenman has been email notified.

i can vouch that i just got ripped off for $250 from this guy

---------- Post added 03-25-2012 at 01:03 AM ----------

@Festergut

Your post is a good 9 hours before I got scammed by the same person and he states that he is changing his passwords, etc. He got hacked... yea right. Obviously a bunch of BS. I wonder how many times this guy has gotten busted scamming here and still isn't banned?

[15:53:50] Drew Denman: I am in the process of changing all my passwords right now on everything and having my wife run some anti-virus programs in Safe Mode on my laptop. Again, while this doesn't matter to you, I will be looking into this (hopefully before April 10). In the mean time have you tried filing petitions in-game to get your gold back? I would assume transferring that much would trigger some kind of Blizzard flag.
 
drewdenman account has been banned.

March 22nd - March 25 - Kansas US
Feb 20 - Dec 2011 - US Military IP

drewdenman IP address from late 2011 until Feb 20th, shows a consistent Military IP. Assuming that was him, his last activity was Feb 20th.

The next login is March 22 from Kansas.

It's hard to determine whether or not that's him, since members in the Military tend to have a lot of different IPs.

Regardless, the rule has always been if your account is used in a scam, you are responsible. If drewdenman wants to return in the future, he'll have to resolve this thread.
 
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