PepsiiiTwiSt SCAMMED ME

[danspazy2]

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Seller here, the buyer recently disputed his PayPal saying the transaction was not the owners doing. The PayPal transaction was friends and family.

Information
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Purchase Date: Feb, 23, 2020
Date the problem began: Tue, Jul 21, 6:07 PM (18 hours ago at the time of making this thread)
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Method of payment used: PayPal family and friends
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing:
His Discord ID as of now is: He has changed discord, deleted his previous discord username

DISPUTE Information
######################
Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...l-items-p2w-tent-t4-fairies-and-more.1569457/
Approximate value of property: $1,500 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No

Proof

I posted this account on epicnpc: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...l-items-p2w-tent-t4-fairies-and-more.1569457/
on February, 22, 2020 the next day he contacted me regarding wanting to buy the account and he ends up buying the account on Feb, 23, 2020

I contacted the seller through discord and he send me his payment through PayPal family and friends on Feb, 23, 2020 unfortunately I have lost his discord contact. But the date of his review, and the review I gave to him was on Feb, 23, 2020 and the paypal dispute was from a transaction from Feb, 23,2020

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Sincerely,
Dan

 

[Angel]

@PepsiiiTwiSt notified

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

He has promised after-purchase support. We even exchanged phone numbers for that purpose. He deleted or blocked me on discord, never answered any of my phone calls or text messages, and even ignored the emails I sent to him directly to his paypal email address.

Edit: I just finished reading through the entire post. He claims that he lost my discord, but I still have our chat saved on my discord so that can't be it. I have not deleted my discord, and changing nickname doesn't hinder communication. He's the one who purposely cut-off all communication after the sale. This is on him for not holding up his side of the deal, not me. And the account was also recalled.

 

[Angel]

@PepsiiiTwiSt what kind support? What happens with the account?

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

@PepsiiiTwiSt what kind support? What happens with the account?

The account got flagged and was requiring some verification to regain full access.

 

[Angel]

Please post an image which proves your claim

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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I no longer have access to the account so I can't. He recalled it. This is irrelevant however, I have enough proof that I've been trying to reach him for after-purchase support but got ignored on all 3 fronts (discord, email, phone).

 

[Angel]

I no longer have access to the account so I can't. He recalled it. This is irrelevant however, I have enough proof that I've been trying to reach him for after-purchase support but got ignored on all 3 fronts (discord, email, phone).

I will like to see any of these.

@danspazy2 it was you who recalled the account?

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Is showing personal information against the ToS by any chance?

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

He has promised after-purchase support. We even exchanged phone numbers for that purpose. He deleted or blocked me on discord, never answered any of my phone calls or text messages, and even ignored the emails I sent to him directly to his paypal email address.

I supported you, for a limited time. This guy, message me 5 months later, asking for help and questions in regards to the game. A game I haven't played in over 8-10 months that's just CRAZY. Yes I ignore his emails and phonecalls because I don't expect to babysit the new owner for that long.

The only time he communicated with me via email was 9 days ago.

I also took photos of ID next to a newspaper of "February 23 2020" so he could use it to change the email associated to the account to an email that I would not know. Its not possible for me to recall the account since he transfer the account to an email I do not know. @Angel I have the picture still if you request I can send it to you. Here is how the process work https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change

With the ID I provided to him, he could change the email associated to the account without my help.

@PepsiiiTwiSt Don't do this man, just don't to it.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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The picture you provided me is only good for changing the email once at the time of the purchase because it's in front of a dated newspaper. I can't use the picture to guarantee the safety of the account afterwards, hence why when I ran into issues later on, I needed your support. This is why I wanted after-purchase support as a part of the deal, which you agreed to.

And no, I didn't message you 5 months after the purchase. I obviously couldn't reach you on discord because YOU DELETED IT (not me, like you falsely accused) so I had to call and text you because that was the only other contact information provided. You ignored all my phone calls and text messages. The first text message sent after the purchase is only 1 month after. When you ignored me on your phone, I decided to send you an email as a last resort. You ignored my email as well but when the paypal dispute opened you responded in 1 day.

You either have really bad memory or are blatantly lying when I have the evidence to back-up my claims. You can say random things all you want, you're just losing credibility by doing so.

PS - And no, that's not how account recalling works in BDO, or on any games for that matter. You don't need to know the current email address to reclaim your account.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Seller here, the buyer recently disputed his PayPal saying the transaction was not the owners doing. The PayPal transaction was friends and family.

Information
######################
Purchase Date: Feb, 23, 2020
Date the problem began: Tue, Jul 21, 6:07 PM (18 hours ago at the time of making this thread)
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Discord
Method of payment used: PayPal family and friends
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing:
His Discord ID as of now is: He has changed discord, deleted his previous discord username

DISPUTE Information
######################
Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...l-items-p2w-tent-t4-fairies-and-more.1569457/
Approximate value of property: $1,500 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? No

Proof

I posted this account on epicnpc: https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/na-...l-items-p2w-tent-t4-fairies-and-more.1569457/
on February, 22, 2020 the next day he contacted me regarding wanting to buy the account and he ends up buying the account on Feb, 23, 2020

I contacted the seller through discord and he send me his payment through PayPal family and friends on Feb, 23, 2020 unfortunately I have lost his discord contact. But the date of his review, and the review I gave to him was on Feb, 23, 2020 and the paypal dispute was from a transaction from Feb, 23,2020

Sincerely,
Dan

Quoting your original post so you can't alter anything.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

@PepsiiiTwiSt Don't do this man, just don't to it. [/QUOTE]

Don't do what? This is on you. The last email specifically said "I just need help with something that'll take 5 minutes of your time at max," but you still ignored me. Don't try to put this blame on me. I'm willing to drop the dispute but you need to hold up ur side of the deal, and also give me back the account.

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

The picture you provided me is only good for changing the email once at the time of the purchase because it's in front of a dated newspaper. I can't use the picture to guarantee the safety of the account afterwards, hence why when I ran into issues later on, I needed your support. This why I wanted after-purchase support as a part of the deal, which you agreed to.

Okay so you ran into an issue with the account. It got flagged, but that's not my fault man. That's on you! You've had the account since February, your doing is your responsibility as the new owner.
Now you are suggesting it's being recalled... okay.

So it got flagged, now you are saying it's being recalled and that you no longer have access to it.
@Angel Moderator It's not possible for me to recall the account.
this is the instruction as to how an email changed can be made! https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change

I provided the new owner, a picture of the ID next to the newspaper as instructed was needed by the process
https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change

He was able to changed the email associated to the account without my help because I provided him all the tools needed to do so.
The instruction says "State the email address your account is currently associated with and the new address you want to change to. "
How is it possible for me to recall the account if you changed the account email to an email I do not know off??????
That was the purpose, that was the reason why we did it with the newspaper.
Edit: that's also the reason why you agreed to pay via friends and family because it was a sure way that I could never try to take the account back as I have no knowledge of where the account migrated to.

I provided HIM support for a short period of time after he bought the account as promised. I don't expect to keep baby sit the new owner for a long period of time.
and those text message were from March and May.

Quoting your original post so you can't alter anything.

I only alter one word.

 

[danspazy2]

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

You don't need to know the current email address to reclaim your account.

Yeah you do READ
https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change
Doing it with the newspaper way was also the reason why you agreed to pay with friends and family.

@Angel Also, it's as if he is suggesting I haven't helped him at all. That's not true. Shortly after he bought the account, we talked numerous times on discord. That was it, that's enough for me. Every single account I've ever sold here, and on PlayerAuctions I never needed to babysit the new owner as long as this guy wants me too.

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

@Angel

Now, had one of those text messages started with a stronger opening like "account is flagged, please help!!!" or "I can't purchase anything with my pearls"
I would of gladly help, but that wouldn't take 5 minutes as he suggest it does.

Instead he starts every single one of his text messages with "I need assistant" what do you want me to assist you with? I HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME IN MANY MONTHS. I am as clueless as the next guy!

Look, I'm sorry I couldn't help you as much as I could but I shouldn't have to baby sit you or teach you how to play the game. You gotta do that on your own.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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Okay so you ran into an issue with the account. It got flagged, but that's not my fault man. That's on you! You've had the account since February, your doing is your responsibility as the new owner.
Now you are suggesting it's being recalled... okay.

So it got flagged, now you are saying it's being recalled and that you no longer have access to it.
@Angel Moderator It's not possible for me to recall the account.
this is the instruction as to how an email changed can be made! https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change

I provided the new owner, a picture of the ID next to the newspaper as instructed was needed by the process
https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change

He was able to changed the email associated to the account without my help because I provided him all the tools needed to do so.
The instruction says "State the email address your account is currently associated with and the new address you want to change to. "
How is it possible for me to recall the account if you changed the account email to an email I do not know off??????
That was the purpose, that was the reason why we did it with the newspaper.
Edit: that's also the reason why you agreed to pay via friends and family because it was a sure way that I could never try to take the account back as I have no knowledge of where the account migrated to.

I provided HIM support for a short period of time after he bought the account as promised. I don't expect to keep baby sit the new owner for a long period of time.
and those text message were from March and May.

I only alter one word.

I never said account getting flagged was your fault. The reason why you're being put on heat right now is because you didn't uphold a part of an agreement.

The account was retrieved for sure. I get the invalid email message when trying to log-in, which means the email has been changed. And the account was logged in by someone who left the guild it was in.

It doesn't matter how many times you say that the account is not retrievable without knowing the current email address. That's just false and anyone with even a slightest of knowledge when it comes to BDO's account security knows that's not how it works. Hell, the way things work is pretty universal across all games. You're not convincing anyone by repeatedly saying the same false information over and over again.

The instruction says "State the email address your account is currently associated with and the new address you want to change to. "
How is it possible for me to recall the account if you changed the account email to an email I do not know off??????

Rofl, are you serious? That's the instruction for changing the email. OBVIOUSLY, they'll expect you to know what email address the account is currently under if you're requesting an email change. If you're retrieving the email, you don't follow the steps required for an email change... All you need to retrieve an account is the means to verify that you're the owner (photo ID in front of the ticket or up-to-date newspaper) and some information regarding the account for them to find it.

I provided HIM support for a short period of time after he bought the account as promised. I don't expect to keep baby sit the new owner for a long period of time.
and those text message were from March and May.

You started purposely ignoring me after less than 1 month. Stop making excuses.

https://blackdesert.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/210745969-Email-Change
Doing it with the newspaper way was also the reason why you agreed to pay with friends and family.

Once again, you're quoting the instructions for an email change. You don't follow these steps for an account retrieval.

Also, it's as if he is suggesting I haven't helped him at all. That's not true. Shortly after he bought the account, we talked numerous times on discord. That was it, that's enough for me. Every single account I've ever sold here, and on PlayerAuctions I never needed to babysit the new owner as long as this guy wants me too.

I don't know where I ever implied that you never helped me? And once again, it doesn't matter at all what you had or didn't have to do for other buyers. Our agreements and terms of sale are unique to ours. Get this through your head please.

Now, had one of those text messages started with a stronger opening like "account is flagged, please help!!!" or "I can't purchase anything with my pearls"
I would of gladly help, but that wouldn't take 5 minutes as he suggest it does.

Once again, excuses. You deleted your discord without saying a word to me. If you had any intention to uphold your part of the deal and provide after-sale support, you'd have reached out to me and told me to reach you through other means if I needed support since you're deleting your discord. Stop lying, you've already been caught red-handed multiple times and you still continue to tell lies.

Instead he starts every single one of his text messages with "I need assistant" what do you want me to assist you with? I HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME IN MANY MONTHS. I am as clueless as the next guy!

Look, I'm sorry I couldn't help you as much as I could but I shouldn't have to baby sit you or teach you how to play the game. You gotta do that on your own.

Good try attempting to distort memory, but unlike you, I actually have record of what happened. Because, even though you accused me of deleting or changing my discord, I actually didn't, and it was actually you who did that. You didn't assist me with much after the sale. You responded for 5 days after the transaction and that was the last time I heard from you. The transaction took place on 2/22/2020 and the last time I heard from you is 2/27/2020. You responded 8 times over the 5 days. That's not anywhere near "babysitting."

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Didn't uphold his part of the deal and ultimately recalled his account

Part of the agreement was that he provide after-sale support. Due to the nature of how susceptible to security checks BDO accounts are, it's pretty important to have after-sale support. I requested it as part of the sale and the seller agreed. He either deleted his discord or blocked me on discord 5 days after the transaction. He didn't respond to the phone calls or text messages he provided me with. He even ignored emails I sent to his PAYPAL email. Eventually, the account was recalled but the seller denies recalling the account saying "I can't recall the account if I don't know what email you changed it to!" This isn't how things work for BDO accounts, or for any online game accounts for that matter.

 

[danspazy2]

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

Rofl, are you serious? That's the instruction for changing the email. OBVIOUSLY, they'll expect you to know what email address the account is currently under if you're requesting an email change. If you're retrieving the email, you don't follow the steps required for an email change... All you need to retrieve an account is the means to verify that you're the owner (photo ID in front of the ticket or up-to-date newspaper) and some information regarding the account for them to find it.

Didn't uphold his part of the deal and ultimately recalled his account

Part of the agreement was that he provide after-sale support. Due to the nature of how susceptible to security checks BDO accounts are, it's pretty important to have after-sale support. I requested it as part of the sale and the seller agreed. He either deleted his discord or blocked me on discord 5 days after the transaction. He didn't respond to the phone calls or text messages he provided me with. He even ignored emails I sent to his PAYPAL email. Eventually, the account was recalled but the seller denies recalling the account saying "I can't recall the account if I don't know what email you changed it to!" This isn't how things work for BDO accounts, or for any online game accounts for that matter.

This theory of yours is based on WHAT? Based on who's instruction? Show me the steps posted by Pearl Abyss that says you must do this to get said account back. Because as far as I am aware, the only way to take back an account for Black Desert is to change the email associated to the account to another email that you have control over.

Again, this is one of the reason why you agreed to pay me FIRST, via friends and family was because I agree to take the picture of the ID next to a newspaper so that you may transfer the account to an email that I have no knowledge off so that I can never try to recall the account. You wanted me to do this, you explained to me why you wanted me to do it with the newspaper. That's your WORD. You even said you feel more secure that way. That's why we did it that way, instead of doing it the other way. I did what you wanted me to do yet you are now soo convinced that what you told me, is not how the game works.

Due to the nature of how susceptible to security checks BDO accounts are, it's pretty important to have after-sale support.

But not once did you mention you needed my help due to account problems such as getting flagged, which now that you are the new owner of the account. It isn't my fault.

AGAIN, refer to what I said:

Now, had one of those text messages started with a stronger opening like "account is flagged, please help!!!" or "I can't purchase anything with my pearls"
I would of gladly help, but that wouldn't take 5 minutes as he suggest it does.

Instead all I get is "I need 5 minute, please help" which I just assume it's just you wanting me to teach you how to play the game.

Part of the agreement was that he provide after-sale support.

But the agreement was not that I help you learn how to play the game which is the only thing you ever asked from me after you bought the account, which I gladly did help, talk to you for a couple of days couple hours on discord. Even helped you set up the nodes, how to play Sorc, even attempt to help you join one of the best guild in the game. At one point, you gotta learn the game yourself and stop relying on someone who hasn't played the game in many months.


You never said anything to me regarding actual account problems. You never once approach to me regarding the account getting flagged. Every time you try to communicate with me, it's related to Black Desert encyclopedia.

I never said account getting flagged was your fault.

Yeah, are you right, it's not my fault its yours.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

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This theory of yours is based on WHAT? Based on who's instruction? Show me the steps posted by Pearl Abyss that says you must do this to get said account back. Because as far as I am aware, the only way to take back an account for Black Desert is to change the email associated to the account to another email that you have control over.

Sigh... It's common knowledge, which obviously you lack. You don't need to know the email currently associated with the account to retrieve it. Just because you don't know something so common, it doesn't mean it's not like that. Just sit tight, I sent an inquiry to KAKAO to educate your ignorance.

Again, this is one of the reason why you agreed to pay me FIRST, via friends and family was because I agree to take the picture of the ID next to a newspaper so that you may transfer the account to an email that I have no knowledge off so that I can never try to recall the account. You wanted me to do this, you explained to me why you wanted me to do it with the newspaper. That's your WORD. You even said you feel more secure that way. That's why we did it that way, instead of doing it the other way. I did what you wanted me to do yet you are now soo convinced that what you told me, is not how the game works.

It doesn't matter what I said or didn't say. You need to realize that regardless, there is only one fact, and that fact is that you don't need to know the current email to retrieve the account.

So you're denying ever having retrieved the account. Maybe you didn't, though it is very likely that you did or at least had some part to play in the scam. It is impossible to retrieve the account and then get the email changed without the original owner being directly involved. With that said, it is very likely that you played a critically important role in the account retrieval process. If you did, you can simply give me the account back. Even if you didn't, you can help me get the account back. In the end, it's up to you to correct this.

But not once did you mention you needed my help due to account problems such as getting flagged, which now that you are the new owner of the account. It isn't my fault.

Now, had one of those text messages started with a stronger opening like "account is flagged, please help!!!" or "I can't purchase anything with my pearls"
I would of gladly help, but that wouldn't take 5 minutes as he suggest it does.

Instead all I get is "I need 5 minute, please help" which I just assume it's just you wanting me to teach you how to play the game.

It's your fault that you decided to ignore my request for assistance after promising to provide after-sale support. Your reasoning for not responding is not adequate and thus your actions not being excusable.

Hey, I'm the guy that bought your BDO account a while back. I've been trying to get in touch with you but you're no longer on discord and the number you gave me doesn't seem to work. This is your paypal email address so I'm pretty confident you check this regularly. If you see this, please respond. I just need help with something that'll take 5 minutes of your time at max.

This is not a light message that you can read and simply ignore as being unimportant. I made it clear in my message that I've been trying to reach you through multiple means but to no avail. The comment about not taking more than 5 minutes to help me was to convince you to respond, because you ignored all of my other messages.

But the agreement was not that I help you learn how to play the game which is the only thing you ever asked from me after you bought the account, which I gladly did help, talk to you for a couple of days couple hours on discord. Even helped you set up the nodes, how to play Sorc, even attempt to help you join one of the best guild in the game. At one point, you gotta learn the game yourself and stop relying on someone who hasn't played the game in many months.

What are you talking about? I never asked you to help me learn the game. We didn't call a single time after the sale. And all the questions I asked you after the sale were questions regarding the history of the account such as what server it was on before the merger, which guilds you've been in, if you knew the people x, y, and z, etc.

You never said anything to me regarding actual account problems. You never once approach to me regarding the account getting flagged. Every time you try to communicate with me, it's related to Black Desert encyclopedia.

Dude, stop making excuses. You either blocked me on discord or outright deleted ur discord 5 days after the sale. Ever since then, I've been trying to reach you over the phone and email but you never responded. I'm not going to write out the whole problem when I'm mainly trying to get you to respond first.

 

[eaglesaw]

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I can attest, Pepsi just tried to scam me for his pen wiz BDO account. I sent him 2.5k, he was suppose to deliver account, he blocked me on discord. I have a photo of his ID and I contacted my bank. He deleted the thread before I could post the feedback. Mods, he needs to be banned.

 

[eaglesaw]

That sorc was sold to @CrzyHooligan by Pepsi. It was recovered by original owner after Pepsi disputed the paypal transaction. He clearly tried to double dip by screwing over both individuals to make double the profit.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

LOL are you serious? Post screenshot of where you sent me the money. You wanted to send half payment, receive account info, and then send the rest of the money , which I agreed to. We initially agreed to Friend and Family over paypal. Then out of no where, you said you will only send the first payment as for a purchase. So I declined and that I was no longer interested in selling. We never even did the transaction.

 

[danspazy2]

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Sigh... It's common knowledge, which obviously you lack. You don't need to know the email currently associated with the account to retrieve it. Just because you don't know something so common, it doesn't mean it's not like that. Just sit tight, I sent an inquiry to KAKAO to educate your ignorance.

Right instead of having a civil discussions. You choose to express angry words, and even with some violent attitudes to those who are contrary in disagreeing.

It doesn't matter what I said

It does matter what you said because we based the transaction method based on what you want, and the reasoning as to why we do it that way. Now, because things aren't going the way you want, you are backing off. Claiming things don't work the same way you said it would.

So you're denying ever having retrieved the account. Maybe you didn't, though it is very likely that you did or at least had some part to play in the scam. It is impossible to retrieve the account and then get the email changed without the original owner being directly involved. With that said, it is very likely that you played a critically important role in the account retrieval process. If you did, you can simply give me the account back. Even if you didn't, you can help me get the account back. In the end, it's up to you to correct this.

I didn't recall the account. I can help you get back the account, but you are already disputing with PayPal against me. So, really in the end it's your fault. I can help you, but what can I do when you have me pin??!?!?

It's your fault that you decided to ignore my request for assistance after promising to provide after-sale support. Your reasoning for not responding is not adequate and thus your actions not being excusable.

This is not a light message that you can read and simply ignore as being unimportant. I made it clear in my message that I've been trying to reach you through multiple means but to no avail. The comment about not taking more than 5 minutes to help me was to convince you to respond, because you ignored all of my other messages.

I ignore you because every single time you wanted my help, in the past, in the hours we've talked together. Was nothing in regards to account problems. It's you, wanting me to teach you how to play on a game I haven't played in many months. Had you open up with a better and stronger opening statement maybe, just maybe... perhaps mention account problems? I would of agreed to help. But, not everyone here has the amount of free time, you do and yes I know that 5 minutes comments you made, wouldn't be 5 minutes because you've asked me for 5 minutes before and it ended up being an hour long conversation on discord in regards to guilds and the history of guilds in

What are you talking about? I never asked you to help me learn the game. We didn't call a single time after the sale. And all the questions I asked you after the sale were questions regarding the history of the account such as what server it was on before the merger, which guilds you've been in, if you knew the people x, y, and z, etc.

Yes you did, you asked me history of the account and which guild's I've been in because you were scared the account might get flagged. Then you asked me how I play Sorc, the type of style I play, what nodes I did, what to do against certain classes, certain players in the game the list goes on and on. All of this stuff, is unnecessary but I helped you anyway. I also discussed to you, to change your family name, and character name and I've also deleted everyone from friendslist.

Dude, stop making excuses. You either blocked me on discord or outright deleted ur discord 5 days after the sale.

Yeah but, I left my phone and my email for you as we discussed during the sales transaction! You don't need just discord. The world doesn't communicate via one method. I delete my discord but left you my email and phone number in case you wanted help in regards to ACCOUNT PROBLEMS. Not BDO tutorial.

NOW

THIS IS WHERE THE

It doesn't matter what I said or didn't say.

COMES INTO PLAY

It does matter what I said, and you didn't say.

 

[eaglesaw]

@danspazy2 check your PM. I've got his university too, will be notifying them of his activities.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

@eaglesaw I'm glad I didn't go through with the transaction with you.

 

[eaglesaw]

@eaglesaw I'm glad I didn't go through with the transaction with you.

You are going on a scamming spree on a high vouch account. We got it, its hard times, but man, everyone is suffering, its not the time to scam others. How selfish can you be.

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

@danspazy2 check your PM. I've got his university too, will be notifying them of his activities.

I appreciate it man, I need this.

That sorc was sold to @CrzyHooligan by Pepsi. It was recovered by original owner after Pepsi disputed the paypal transaction. He clearly tried to double dip by screwing over both individuals to make double the profit.

Ah so he did sell the account lol and then he try to scam me saying it was recovered.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/the-most-unique-account.1650256/#post-6912908

LOL, he deleted everything. There is nothing there to read. THIS JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER.

So he sold the account, and then tried to make more money by scamming me. Unbelievable some people are.

@Angel

Please look into this!

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Right instead of having a civil discussions. You choose to express angry words, and even with some violent attitudes to those who are contrary in disagreeing.


It does matter what you said because we based the transaction method based on what you want, and the reasoning as to why we do it that way. Now, because things aren't going the way you want, you are backing off. Claiming things don't work the same way you said it would.


I didn't recall the account. I can help you get back the account, but you are already disputing with PayPal against me. So, really in the end it's your fault. I can help you, but what can I do when you have me pin??!?!?



I ignore you because every single time you wanted my help, in the past, in the hours we've talked together. Was nothing in regards to account problems. It's you, wanting me to teach you how to play on a game I haven't played in many months. Had you open up with a better and stronger opening statement maybe, just maybe... perhaps mention account problems? I would of agreed to help. But, not everyone here has the amount of free time, you do and yes I know that 5 minutes comments you made, wouldn't be 5 minutes because you've asked me for 5 minutes before and it ended up being an hour long conversation on discord in regards to guilds and the history of guilds in


Yes you did, you asked me history of the account and which guild's I've been in because you were scared the account might get flagged. Then you asked me how I play Sorc, the type of style I play, what nodes I did, what to do against certain classes, certain players in the game the list goes on and on. All of this stuff, is unnecessary but I helped you anyway. I also discussed to you, to change your family name, and character name and I've also deleted everyone from friendslist.



Yeah but, I left my phone and my email for you as we discussed during the sales transaction! You don't need just discord. The world doesn't communicate via one method. I delete my discord but left you my email and phone number in case you wanted help in regards to ACCOUNT PROBLEMS. Not BDO tutorial.

NOW

THIS IS WHERE THE


COMES INTO PLAY

It does matter what I said, and you didn't say.

You know I have our chat-log, right? I don't know how good your memory is but I don't see any of the things you mentioned in our post-sale chat-log. I also don't see a single voice-call after purchase. Not even an attempt. So yeah, I don't know what to say. You can't even delete voice-call logs and other people's messages on discord, only yours. So don't accuse me of deleting those logs.

Those are besides the point. I'll close the paypal dispute since you said you would make things right.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

I appreciate it man, I need this.



Ah so he did sell my account lol and then he try to scam me saying it was recovered.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/the-most-unique-account.1650256/#post-6912908

LOL, he deleted everything. There is nothing there to read. THIS JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER.

@eaglesaw My account was the most unique account because it had the title "the greatest Sorc" I was the only Sorc in NA who has that title.
That's also one of the reasons why he kept asking me stupid questions during our discord conversations like "what type of style do you play, or how do you play Sorc, how do I beat this class" because he knows he can never amount to my skills. I got sick and tired of his stupid questions and just ignore him.

So he sold the account, and then tried to make more money by scamming me. Unbelievable some people are.

@Angel

Please look into this!

I guess that's what you want to believe.

 

[eaglesaw]

I appreciate it man, I need this.



Ah so he did sell my account lol and then he try to scam me saying it was recovered.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/the-most-unique-account.1650256/#post-6912908

LOL, he deleted everything. There is nothing there to read. THIS JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER.

@eaglesaw My account was the most unique account because it had the title "the greatest Sorc" I was the only Sorc in NA who has that title.
That's also one of the reasons why he kept asking me stupid questions during our discord conversations like "what type of style do you play, or how do you play Sorc, how do I beat this class" because he knows he can never amount to my skills. I got sick and tired of his stupid questions and just ignore him.

So he sold the account, and then tried to make more money by scamming me. Unbelievable some people are.

@Angel

Please look into this!

Bingo. He deleted the "pen wizard" thread he tried running away with my 2.5k. Hes deleting everything. What a scum. Fortunately we can be creative in ensuring his activities stop.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

screenshot of discord with @danspazy2

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

I guess that's what you want to believe.

OH THIS IS JUST PERFECT

He sold the account to someone else. It got FLAGGED, possibly banned due to IP changes.

The account got flagged and was requiring some verification to regain full access.

OH THIS CAN'T GET ANY BETTER.

The account was flagged, because he sold the account to someone else. When things didn't go well, he disputed me through PayPal to blame me.

I no longer have access to the account so I can't. He recalled it. This is irrelevant however, I have enough proof that I've been trying to reach him for after-purchase support but got ignored on all 3 fronts (discord, email, phone).

I think the reason you no longer have access to the account was because you sold the account. I think you might have left that part out.

LOL

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

@eaglesaw

Have you contacted the guy he sold the account too? He is getting scammed after all just like we are. I will try to do all I can to avoid that guy from getting scamming.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

OH THIS IS JUST PERFECT

He sold the account to someone else. It got FLAGGED, possibly banned due to IP changes.



OH THIS CAN'T GET ANY BETTER.

The account was flagged, because he sold the account to someone else. When things didn't go well, he disputed me through PayPal to blame me.



I think the reason you no longer have access to the account was because you sold the account. I think you might have left that part out.

LOL

Please, enough of your selective reading. I'm working with the buyer to get his account back.

 

[eaglesaw]

@eaglesaw

Have you contacted the guy he sold the account too? He is getting scammed after all just like we are. I will try to do all I can to avoid that guy from getting scamming.

Yes, its @CrzyHooligan

He said he is posting a thread too. He didn't know how to, so I guided him to the thread with the instructions.

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

Yes, its @CrzyHooligan

He said he is posting a thread too. He didn't know how to, so I guided him to the thread with the instructions.

He needs to get his money back! These are hard times we are facing.

Please, enough of your selective reading. I'm working with the buyer to get his account back.

You are working with the buyer to get his account back by trying to steal money from other people? You are a waste of the Earth's resources.

@eaglesaw
@Angel

it's funny, CrzyHooligan posted a review to @PepsiiiTwiSt on Jul 13, 2020 which is actually the same date that he contacted me on my GMAIL which is the same date he sold the account to CrzyHooligan.

LOL

Is this the 5 minutes you wanted to talk to me about? You wanted my help in a smoother transitioning of ownership to CrzyHooligan.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE AGREEMENT WE TALKED ABOUT. Now you know why I choose not to baby sit you.
Again this is where the

It doesn't matter what I said or didn't say.

COMES INTO PLAY

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

it's funny, CrzyHooligan posted a review to @PepsiiiTwiSt on Jul 13, 2020 which is actually the same date that he contacted me on my GMAIL which is the same date he sold the account to CrzyHooligan.

LOL

Is this the 5 minutes you wanted to talk to me about? You wanted my help in a smoother transitioning of ownership to CrzyHooligan.

Exactly, just trying to provide him with the best service that I can. Hooligan soon after buying got flagged for terminal transactions. He needed your picture ID (front & back with important information covered) to unlock terminal use. He wasn't able to purchase pearls for the necessary pearl expenditures that usually follow an account purchase (name change, etc). You guys can paint me in the wrong picture all you want, and it's convenient that you guys have me outnumbered. But It's 99% likely that you recalled the account from under Hooligan's nose and that @eaglesaw is mad I didn't fall for his shallow tactics.

If @eaglesaw isn't afraid of me revealing our conversation, he can send me another message on discord @ IQ200#6147 or simply leave his discord ID here so that I can reopen our chat and share screenshots to refute his absurd claims.

 

[eaglesaw]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

BLUF:

@danspazy2 sold Pepsi the account is February legitly.
Pepsi sold this account to @CrzyHooligan
The account was IP locked due to the IP address craziness from Pepsi's actions and "other red flags" according to CrzyHooligan.
Pepsi decides @danspazy2 is liable for the IP address lock, despite being 5 months later.
Pepsi charges back on Paypal from @danspazy2 based on this flawed liability.

Pepsi attempts to scam me on a thread he just deleted so I can't report him. He uses an alias discord so I can't attribute to him. However with some social engineering, I managed to get his ID (he isn't very intelligent).

Conclusion: He is going on a scamming spree because he knows his end is near for his EpicNPC career and/or probably is desperate due to the COVID crisis.

 

[eaglesaw]

Exactly, just trying to provide him with the best service that I can. Hooligan soon after buying got flagged for terminal transactions. He needed your picture ID (front & back with important information covered) to unlock terminal use. He wasn't able to purchase pearls for the necessary pearl expenditures that usually follow an account purchase (name change, etc). You guys can paint me in the wrong picture all you want, and it's convenient that you guys have me outnumbered. But It's 99% likely that you recalled the account from under Hooligan's nose and that @eaglesaw is mad I didn't fall for his shallow tactics.

Pepsi, people don't just randomly go after someone. All of us have a valid reason for doing so. I don't need to tell you to reflect on your actions because you know exactly what you are doing and you know it is wrong to do. It makes you more of a low-life doing this during COVID too.

 

[CrzyHooligan]

Sorry, I'm new to this site. Yes I purchased the account and only after a week of playing it it was recovered. I was told over voice that he was the original owner. There were multiple red flags on the account I discovered and wanted a refund for the account and I would return the account and the attached email. We came to an agreement that allowed me to keep the account and I fixed the issue with the account that I was having and I was content. However, now I am out of my money and out of the good I purchased.

 

[eaglesaw]

Sorry, I'm new to this site. Yes I purchased the account and only after a week of playing it it was recovered. I was told over voice that he was the original owner. There were multiple red flags on the account I discovered and wanted a refund for the account and I would return the account and the attached email. We came to an agreement that allowed me to keep the account and I fixed the issue with the account that I was having and I was content. However, now I am out of my money and out of the good I purchased.

He claimed to me the sorc was his friends that he sold it on his friends behalf. So he is clearly misrepresenting goods that he is selling on this site. Claiming you are the original owner versus a secondary owner is HUGE for representing the true value of the good. Lying about this is unethical and wrong.

Coordinating with CrzyHooligan. Considering civil litigation via small claims court in San Diego, California.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

@eagleaw, Admins and Moderators can easily reopen my deleted thread. Have them reopen it if you think it was a suspicious action. I'm okay with it.
The reason I deleted that thread is because I knew it was unlikely I was going to get a buyer with this dispute open. So I decided to take it down temporarily, or permanently, whichever one it may be depending on how this case resolves.

You can make empty talk all you want. I just need our chat opened back up to prove I did nothing wrong and that you were needlessly getting aggressive towards the end when I decided not to sell to you.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Sorry, I'm new to this site. Yes I purchased the account and only after a week of playing it it was recovered. I was told over voice that he was the original owner. There were multiple red flags on the account I discovered and wanted a refund for the account and I would return the account and the attached email. We came to an agreement that allowed me to keep the account and I fixed the issue with the account that I was having and I was content. However, now I am out of my money and out of the good I purchased.

I never claimed that i was the original owner. Hell, you never even asked me.

 

[danspazy2]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/pepsiiitwist-scammed-me.1663838/page-3

Conclusion: He is going on a scamming spree because he knows his end is near for his EpicNPC career.

Possibly also because he is getting **** by the pandemic. Don't you know, everyone is suffering too?

You literally are a waste of the Earth's resources.

I managed to get his ID (he isn't very intelligent).

I might need that, this dude made a claim to PayPal that he wasn't the owner who send me those payments. What a piece of human garbage.

I never claimed that i was the original owner. Hell, you never even asked me.

Yeah you did you lying sack of ****. That's why you contacted me, so I can provide you the ID and claim you are the original owner to @CrzyHooligan

 

[Benzyboy]

What in the heck is this thread. First of all none of you have authorized access or permission to be on my BDO account especially since trading in BDO is bannable. @danspazy2 should be banned from this site and BDO itself for hacking my account info and retrieving my personal identification information as well as taking malicious action toward me as the account was banned as soon as he IP Changed. I've also discovered he attempted trade/ sell it to multiple people which i discovered through this forum/ tickets to BDO Gm's and messaging people who were part of this ordeal.

@PepsiiiTwiSt should not be attempting to scam people by account reselling without being the original owner and having identification proof.

This is the easiest double ban @Angel I can provide any information required as I'm the original account owner and have access to the account currently.

 

[PepsiiiTwiSt]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scammer-report-pepsiiitwist.1664183/

Yeah you did you lying sack of ****. That's why you contacted me, so I can provide you the ID and claim you are the original owner to @CrzyHooligan

Nah, I contacted you to resolve the issue the account was having. Whether I was the original owner or not was not even in the conversation.

 

[Angel]

Please stop arguing or I am going to close this dispute. Post only when I am asking from you.

@eaglesaw if you are scammed please open another dispute

@danspazy2 who is the original owner of this account? @Benzyboy claims that is him and that he currently hold the account

 

[Benzyboy]

correct. original owner and current owner

 

[Angel]

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