No transaction occurred and there was no material loss

[Kuromichiru]

https://www.epicnpc.com/feedback/feedback/751749/view


Due to technical issues such as a dead device, busy schedule after the golden week, and time zone differences, my response was delayed. Even in this case, there was no payment from @Samekh

 

[Kuromichiru]

@EpicNPC CM can you review this ?

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@Samekh

 

[Samekh]

Hi he knows he ghosted me for days dead device is an excuse who doesnt have a pc and a phone in this day and age. I would except discounts on future orders if he wants me to remove the negative feedback but I feel he deserves it for refusing to provide service for over a week excluding the one time he asked at 6 am. Now the items I wanted to buy are not even on sale anymore and I'm stuck waiting for another seller to pop up. Theres no point of having a feedback system if someone can move terribly slow like this or not at all in his case and then just have the feedback erased at no cost.

 

[Kuromichiru]

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Hi he knows he ghosted me for days dead device is an excuse who doesnt have a pc and a phone in this day and age. I would except discounts on future orders if he wants me to remove the negative feedback but I feel he deserves it for refusing to provide service for over a week excluding the one time he asked at 6 am. Now the items I wanted to buy are not even on sale anymore and I'm stuck waiting for another seller to pop up. Theres no point of having a feedback system if someone can move terribly slow like this or not at all in his case and then just have the feedback erased at no cost.

I can give you a discount for the service fee from 15% to only 10% + 500 JPY (for one transaction). And as I have mentioned in the thread, please contact me on Discord as I am not always in front of my desktop.

also. you can check gameclub.jp if you cant find another seller in gametrade.jp

 

[Kuromichiru]

I can even serve amounts below 2000 JPY

 

[Samekh]

Theres no sellers around that price 6000 yen they all want 15000 yen or more now. I want 50% off fees for the next 5 orders I make or I keep the feedback negative. I'd rather just pay someone to verify my account so I can buy for myself rather then deal with your delays again to be honest.

 

[Kuromichiru]

Theres no sellers around that price 6000 yen they all want 15000 yen or more now. I want 50% off fees for the next 5 orders I make or I keep the feedback negative. I'd rather just pay someone to verify my account so I can buy for myself rather then deal with your delays again to be honest.

ofc i can give you 50%off for fee. but at least add more 500 JPY for transfer fee.

 

[Samekh]

If you can find me another seller around that price 6000 yen for 400 magic stone I'll consider it. Adding 500 yen to the price basically removes any discount it's nearly the same as paying 15% unless I spend 20,000-30,000 yen or more. I dont know if it will be easy to find another good seller like that gameclub.jp looks pretty dead with only 1 item up for sale. Most of the action is on gametrade but theres no option to put up buying request there so it might be futile. I dont know how sellers would respond to it but I was considering commenting on their items to ask if they could sell 400 magicstones again.

 

[xPureblood]

Hi he knows he ghosted me for days dead device is an excuse who doesnt have a pc and a phone in this day and age. I would except discounts on future orders if he wants me to remove the negative feedback but I feel he deserves it for refusing to provide service for over a week excluding the one time he asked at 6 am. Now the items I wanted to buy are not even on sale anymore and I'm stuck waiting for another seller to pop up. Theres no point of having a feedback system if someone can move terribly slow like this or not at all in his case and then just have the feedback erased at no cost.

Please be reasonable, no one owes you anything. People have lives and there are times people just don’t wanna work.

 

[Samekh]

Please be reasonable, no one owes you anything. People have lives and there are times people just don’t wanna work.

You don't want to hear this the next time you order food or go to get your car fixed. Why have your food ready the cook didn't feel like working so you can just go make your own sandwich after waiting an hour for it or the mechanic just let's your car sit on the lot and says "meh I don't feel like changing this guys parts" so you come back and your car is not drivable. So please spare me the sap story. He can owe me nothing if he wants and just eat the bad review/feedback.

 

[Kuromichiru]

Please be reasonable, no one owes you anything. People have lives and there are times people just don’t wanna work.

maybe he doesn't know how busy we are during work after golden week. although it sounds unfair, I just want negative feedback to be removed by @EpicNPC CM . because no transaction occurred. I will not complain if feedback is given after a payment or transaction occurs.

 

[Samekh]

Well up to the CM I guess I don't care for excuses or because no payment was made (your service was so slow I literally couldn't pay you). If you can't reliably serve someone on time or at all that means you have bad service and their either gonna complain or walk off and leave bad reviews. Just because they didn't pay yet doesn't mean its okay for you to have shitty service. If he can serve like this and have the feedback removed then there's no point of having a feedback system. I'm done arguing about this dude wasted my time and clearly doesn't care.

 

[xPureblood]

@EpicNPC CM It's a well known fact that in Japan, when it's golden week, most company are usually closed. This is https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2282.html a easily googled answer. I don't believe its fair for seller to bear responsibility for the fact that, 1. it's holiday season in Japan, most company are closed. 2. Seller have yet to received payment on anything yet, (Usually payment first, service after.)

 

[Samekh]

If you read the PMs Kuromichiru himself told me he would be ready on the 8th. My last message was sent on the 8th and he still ignored it. Only now nearly a week later hes ready to talk finally only because he wants to have perfect reviews so badly. Well maybe you shouldn't ghost your customers then if this matters so much and then offer absolutely nothing as an apology. All I want is for him to try to find me a similar item but he can't even be bothered to do that. Nor does he want to give any discounts changing his fee to 10%+500 yen is basically the same price as his original 15%. Yet him and this guy defending him think I'm supposed to not leave a bad review after this terrible service? What a joke. Please dont listen to these guys CM it should be obvious what he did wrong and he should not be allowed to come crawling to a Moderator to have his precious perfect feedback maintained after behaving like this.

 

[xPureblood]

1. Service has not been conducted yet as you’ve not made payment, so there’s no services. 2.gametrade is a middleman platform, which means they have fees themselves. Nobody is going to do it for you for free. Stop being a spoilt brat. By giving you discount is already hilarious considering the risk his taking by doing it for you, who knows you might scam him. 3. People have lives too, again stop being unreasonable.

 

[Samekh]

If only he put as much effort into getting my order done as you both seem to doing to defend his perfect feedback score. I see you both are going to ride this no payment/ no damage was done idea into the ground. No payment was made because he literally would not take my money I offered to pay early but he responded it's in those PMs he posted "to keep my money". As for damage the sale items I wanted are long gone so essentially my time was wasted. You're clowns now please quite down and eat your 1 negative feedback for being ultra slow and neglecting to trade at agreed upon dates. I'm done bickering about this whatever the CM decides fine. I'll go pay someone else to verify a gametrade account so I can just purchase on my own instead of dealing with this madness. I'm wasting even more time talking to you goofs.

 

[xPureblood]

If only he put as much effort into getting my order done as you both seem to doing to defend his perfect feedback score. I see you both are going to ride this no payment/ no damage was done idea into the ground. No payment was made because he literally would not take my money I offered to pay early but he responded it's in those PMs he posted "to keep my money". As for damage the sale items I wanted are long gone so essentially my time was wasted. You're clowns now please quite down and eat your 1 negative feedback for being ultra slow and neglecting to trade at agreed upon dates. I'm done bickering about this whatever the CM decides fine. I'll go pay someone else to verify a gametrade account so I can just purchase on my own instead of dealing with this madness. I'm wasting even more time talking to you goofs.

Feedbacks are meant for after a service has been completed, not your imaginary service that has not been paid nor completed. no payment, no service conducted. apparently it's too hard for someone with your intellect to comprehend. You can go and create your own Gametrade account, not like they'll accept your payment method anyway, they only accept credit card / debit that's based in Japan.

It appears to me that @Samekh is using the feedback system to bully or held @Kuromichiru as hostage to get a "Compensation" or service fee trade, This should not be allowed in the platform, as it's ridiculous and borderline scam.

I trust you will make the right decision here @EpicNPC @EpicNPC CM

 

[Samekh]

As I said he literally would not take my money. It's too hard for your intellect to understand what payment after service means. Are you going to pay for food before they bring it to you? No. Are you going to pay for repairs before they are completed? No. It's simple(just like your brain) failing to complete a service means you get bad reviews. Please kindly, shut your goofy ass up.

 

[xPureblood]

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[Samekh]

I don't even care about any compensation anymore after dealing with both of you. I only offered him a chance to make it right like an honest business would do. So stop trying to look for loopholes to remove my feedback of his poor service. My god you both really care about 1 negative feedback so badly. Is this how you maintained 100% is crying to the mods everytime someone had an issue instead of actually trying to fix it?

 

[Kuromichiru]

There are a few reasons why I refuse to accept payments during Golden Week:

1. Payments may be delayed.
2. If the payment has been made to gametrade and canceled by the seller or another factor, I will have to wait for 2-3 weeks to process the refund as I am a foreigner in Japan.
3. I am not sure if customers would want to wait 2-3 weeks for the refund process itself.

 

[Samekh]

Yet you offered to accept pay on Friday the 5th at probably some odd hour for me. When I replied that I was ready some hours later. You ask me if I was sure I replied again within the next hour and you just ghosted after that. I asked again on Sunday night and wait a few hours it should have been early in the day on the 8th for Japan and still nothing back from you, even the next day. So you refused payment then offered to take it early, vanished and then never came back even on the originally agreed upon time on the 8th when golden week was over. So it's not only during golden week you just refused to accept payment period even though you told me the 8th. Now a week later I guess you finally noticed that negative feedback never replied to my message and your only concern is that bad feedback.

This is the chat in JP timezone I keep my pc in this time for gaming reasons. I tried to switch it to USA time but it will not display properly. It moves the days back but not the hours. japan is like 13 hours ahead of me.

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  Kuromichiru May 3, 2023​

  • Keep your money safe for now
    
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  Samekh May 3, 2023​

  • ok
    
    
  • guess I'll see you next week then
    
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  Kuromichiru May 5, 2023​

  • hey, i can make transaction today if you want
    
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  Samekh May 6, 2023​

  • okay I think I'm ready I don't know exactly how this will work or if that dude will trust trading to my mule account
    
    
  • can you ask him if its okay that I trade with it or does he need to see my main ?
    
    
  • cause I'm scared that if I'm seen in game trading rmt I might get banned eventually
    
    
  • https://gametrade.jp/devilcarnival/exhibits/53777791 different person selling them slightly cheaper
    
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  Kuromichiru May 6, 2023​

  • are you sure?
    
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  Samekh May 6, 2023​

  • yeah I dont think the price is going to get any better then that 6000 yen for 400
    but I'm going to sleep now so I guess maybe wait on doing it tomorrow morning. I don't know how you add friends in the game to trade with them other then interacting with them in the game somehow seeing an item they sell, event rankings, or guild mates. Maybe can catch then right before they go to sleep since its 3pm in japan now
    
    
  • I'm up if your ready to try this
    
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  Samekh Monday at 10:25 AM​

  • 9pm here now I'm free for a few more hours if you can do it soon
    
    
  • what times are you available to sell normally?
    
    
  • cause I'm getting ready to sleep now

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Feedback Disputes

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[Kuromichiru]

Feedback Disputes

1. If TG was used, we will review feedback disputes as normal.
2. If TG was not used, we will ask for proof of transaction. This means showing a transaction started, either payment, service or item was sent.
- If proof is provided, the feedback will remain. We will not investigate the actual dispute. The feedback will not be changed.
- If proof of transaction is not provided, the feedback will be removed

there is no transaction in chat

 

[Kuromichiru]

@EpicNPC CM Any update?

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Removed no sale