Negative feedback by HELLOTHISISDADEGOD

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

Date that sale/trade took place: August 1st
Method of Contact Used: EpicNPC maybe skype I can't remember
Instant Messenger ID of other party: ?
Your Instant Messenger ID: rear.end
EpicNPC Account of other party: http://www.epicnpc.com/members/302681-HELLOTHISISDADEGOD
Other information:

Sale/Trade Information
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What was bought, sold or traded? 30k IP account on NA
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any
Approximate value of property: $7

Was a middleman used?:
If yes, who?
Describe why you believe the feedback is wrong: my terms "if your account is banned for botting 7 days after purchase I will refund/replace", he comes to me 3 weeks after purchase asking for a refund/replacement which is not covered. also the message is slander
Other details / notes: he purchased on august 1st, last game played august 7th but ban wave started august 11th.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

i'm not sure what i could put here, our entire convo about the refund/replacement is in our PMs

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

Notifed to provide proof of ban date, if its banned after 7 days feedback cannot left

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

doomedtofail said:
Notifed to provide proof of ban date, if its banned after 7 days feedback cannot left

The ban message is on his email, never changed it because I don't want to have to verify it because that can scare away potential buyers. The account hasn't been played in 13 days, which is August 7. I bought the account on august 1 or 2 according to his thread that we both posted on. Here is the account in question http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=guardaamosz.

Have been super busy and just got around to asking for a refund today.

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

Aswead please provide timestamped email screenshot

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

if he did not verify the email to himself there is no ban email to be found, whatever email was attached to the account is non existent.

the account not being played on is not the same as being banned

-purchased on august 1st
-last game played on the 7th
-ban wave starts the 11th

without the ban notification email i cannot help you, as i said in the pms

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

aswead said:
if he did not verify the email to himself there is no ban email to be found, whatever email was attached to the account is non existent.

the account not being played on is not the same as being banned

-purchased on august 1st
-last game played on the 7th
-ban wave starts the 11th

without the ban notification email i cannot help you, as i said in the pms

So, 0 proof has been provided by his part (only speculation lmao) and partial proof by my part. Even if I provided 0 proof we would both have 0 proof, which would mean he has to comp me a free account STATED in EPICNPC dispute rules.

1) If a recall claim is made by the buyer and no proof is provided by either party (as nearly all LoL recalls are), the seller will have to either provide a refund or 2nd account.
-- Once this happens, regardless of what happens after, the dispute is resolved and no bans will be issued.

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

This is not a recall dispute that does not apply. Aswead we will not assume it was banned during the wave.
If you cannot prove it was banned during the wave I will hold you responsible to refund the $7.00 its a minor amount and the feedback will be removed.
If you want to dispute the ban date contact riot and try to get them to state when it was banned. There has to be a ban email somewhere.

Plus its your actions that go it banned during the wave either way but its out of your warranty period and thats the only reason id honor that if proven as he agreed to those terms by buying. But it must be proven

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

I will need the password to the account

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

aswead said:
I will need the password to the account

Doesn't even show the email all it says is the account has been suspended check the email associated with the account. This has been a really drawn out process with a pretty irritable seller, I would appreciate my $7 asap. And I want my feedback to stay I'd even have that over the money appreciate it.

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

you can still log into the site and check what email is attached, i am not the one being irritable, you and i both know the truth and you are lying to try and get a refund. provide me the information i need so we may proceed.

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

Lying to get a refund? either way it was banned by your actions. they do not ban the second of detection they watch and ban in batches
Aswead you need to calm down.

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

I am waiting on HELLOTHISISDADEGOD for the password and I have sent a ticket to RIOT regarding the ban.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

aswead said:
I am waiting on HELLOTHISISDADEGOD for the password and I have sent a ticket to RIOT regarding the ban.

what are you waiting on you have provided 0 proof lmao I have nothing to give you

aswead · Aug 20, 2015

refusing to give the password to a permanently banned account, suspicious but ill see what epicnpc has to say.

you will not see a dime until i get a reply from riot

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

Hello provide the password or the feedback will be removed and this closed with no refund given. Any further issues feedback or dispute threads will be deleted if you do not provide simple requested information.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

doomedtofail said:
Hello provide the password or the feedback will be removed and this closed with no refund given. Any further issues feedback or dispute threads will be deleted if you do not provide simple requested information.

Password is the same as was provided, pretty sad that I have to provide proof without any proof being given from his end and yet he was the starter of the thread. I have seen similar threads thrown out for lack of proof which is amazing. I have to prove my innocence before he has to prove any shred of guilt? Seems fishy at best lmao.

doomedtofail · Aug 20, 2015

I gave him the chance to contact riot to prove it was banned after the refund period you agreed on by buying. I have asked nothing else of you but to provide the password. You need to be cooperative

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 20, 2015

doomedtofail said:
I gave him the chance to contact riot to prove it was banned after the refund period you agreed on by buying. I have asked nothing else of you but to provide the password. You need to be cooperative

I've been nothing but cooperative and password is already given + he has the email to see. And stop saying I'm not cooperative I have been nothing but, while you have been a douchebag? at best (changing my statements without permission as well as failing to follow proper procedure). You're not IMPORTANT LOL you're an epic npc moderator calm it down kid I couldn't care less about my $7 at this point.

Inb4 u get offended and rule in his favor would be expected.

doomedtofail · Aug 21, 2015

How would he know you had same password. It was a simple request. You refused to cooperate by giving him the password its not that hard. I'm calm and you should not abuse me for no reason.

I edited your comment with out your permission as I do not need it. I warned you on cursing in your feedback because its not allowed and you can not discriminate about mental disabilitites in your comments on threads

Epic 1NPC · Aug 21, 2015

At this point no proof has been provided that the account is even banned.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD you are making the accusation, you have to show proof the account is banned.

Log into the site and take a screenshot of the message you get so I can see it's at least banned.

Once we've confirmed it's banned, we will find out why it's banned.

aswead confirmed he already opened a ticket, please provide him with whatever info he requests. Stop arguing with him and just send it even if you think he already has it.

Anyone who buys an account MUST change the password and email. Not changing it will automatically put some of the blame on you for failing to secure the account. The reason is because it becomes too easy to report a fake scam if you don't change this info.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD · Aug 21, 2015

EpicNPC said:
At this point no proof has been provided that the account is even banned.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD you are making the accusation, you have to show proof the account is banned.

Log into the site and take a screenshot of the message you get so I can see it's at least banned.

Once we've confirmed it's banned, we will find out why it's banned.

aswead confirmed he already opened a ticket, please provide him with whatever info he requests. Stop arguing with him and just send it even if you think he already has it.

Anyone who buys an account MUST change the password and email. Not changing it will automatically put some of the blame on you for failing to secure the account. The reason is because it becomes too easy to report a fake scam if you don't change this info.

http://i.imgur.com/3a4Rmbr.jpg ALL INFO HAS BEEN PROVIDED, and where in the rules does it say i must change the email and password (it doesn't). And sure it puts some of the blame on me but he can GO ONTO HIS EMAIL AND CHECK IT LOL. Also I have already provided him with the password so he could confirm it was banned himself. Also you don't need to go on two different accounts to talk to me, you can stay on doomedtofail, thanks!

doomedtofail · Aug 21, 2015

We are two different people.

aswead · Aug 21, 2015

I can confirm the account was banned for botting/buying selling. waiting for riots reply on the date the account was banned. i will update when i have more information

Epic 1NPC · Aug 22, 2015

Thank you. Waiting for reply from Riot now.

HELLOTHISISDADEGOD said:
where in the rules does it say i must change the email and password (it doesn't)

There is no rule, just like there's no rule that says you can't recall an account after you sell it. It's common sense. When you buy an account you have to secure it.

This is why this is written into the rules.

We can't write a rule for every possible scenario or dispute that arises. Because of this EpicNPC mods and admins reserve the right to make decisions on a case by case basis when no rule for the situation exists.

aswead · Aug 22, 2015

http://imgur.com/tMUshRz

doomedtofail · Aug 22, 2015

Thank you for contacting riot.

Epic 1NPC · Aug 23, 2015

It appears the account was detected for botting to level 30 and banned.

If your account is banned for botting 7 days after purchase I will refund/replace

That is the agreement at the time of purchase and it appears it was banned on day 8 or 9.

We can do one of two things.

1) aswead provides full refund, negative is removed.
2) aswead provides no refund, negative remains.

Since you agreed to his warranty, no ban will be issued. Please update once you've come to a decision.

Epic 1NPC · Aug 24, 2015

Closing in 48 hrs, negative will remain if refund is not issued.

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