Lost Access MLB Account

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 18, 2023

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Approximate value of item/service: $70.XX USD
Date the problem began: 18.09.2023
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Descream4 · Sep 18, 2023

@MOKALACIE

MOKALACIE · Sep 18, 2023

What is the problem here.

Descream4 · Sep 18, 2023

Seems to be an account recall. @AZURAKAGAMI perhaps you should leave some explanation for him here since all of the info you left is protected.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 19, 2023

Descream4 said:
Seems to be an account recall. @AZURAKAGAMI perhaps you should leave some explanation for him here since all of the info you left is protected.

MOKALACIE said:
What is the problem here.

After @useeds secured the OG email (as the seller claims) and account. I got disconnected and cannot connect again. I did not changed the OG email, neither password(where TG already changed). He claims to be OO but that’s not true. I just want my account back or a refund.

@MOKALACIE - We are gonna chat here since I am not interested in your false accusations, you sold me unsecured account and now I am paying for it.

Let me be fully transparent on the timeline of what is going on.

A few days ago, I reached out to a member expressing my dissatisfaction with the account due to extended queue times. The member assured me that this delay was typical given the account's high rank. I informed them that I was willing to wait until the end of the season, following the ranked resets, to assess whether the lengthy queues persisted. If I remember correctly, the season should conclude this Thursday, September 21, 2023.

However, I have since lost access to the account, and it appears that the member was not the original owner, as initially advertised. It is reasonable to assume that the account may have been reclaimed by the original owner.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 19, 2023

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Descream4 · Sep 19, 2023

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MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

Heres the thing, the buyer was fully aware of the fact that the account was not originally mine as it had one previous owner who I know pretty well and has good feedback here on epicnpc. For the queue times I honestly have no idea on the problem with that because it has never happened to me and maybe it's a regional thing. I understand that the buyer was dissatisfied with the queue problem but that is beyond my control and I have never seen that issue before. Now in terms of account access, that is an issue that is not my fault, when the buyer bought the account we used TG and him and the middleman completely secured the original account that came with it with no problems. I actually even let the buyer login to check that everything is unlinked and the account is as advertised. The buyer claims I might have taken the account back or the original seller might have taken it back but after a whole month of no problems its impossible. I had that account for almost a month and no issue until the buyer bought it and all of a sudden it's recalled. It is very possible the buyer has changed the email and is simply trying to frame me due to the dissatisfaction of the queue times and him knowing I wasn't going to refund him due to me have no control over it. The only way for me to have taken the account back would be by requesting a link from moonton support which only lasts 48 hours and it has definitely been more than 48 hrs without me having any access to the account. If you need further info, I can explain further on any topic you are confused on and even help by telling who the original owner is and he is even better at knowing this stuff since he sells accs.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

Also what is the point of this dispute if the buyer is not sharing any info about his side of the story publicly. What is there to hide if he is trying to disprove me?

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 19, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Heres the thing, the buyer was fully aware of the fact that the account was not originally mine as it had one previous owner who I know pretty well and has good feedback here on epicnpc. For the queue times I honestly have no idea on the problem with that because it has never happened to me and maybe it's a regional thing. I understand that the buyer was dissatisfied with the queue problem but that is beyond my control and I have never seen that issue before. Now in terms of account access, that is an issue that is not my fault, when the buyer bought the account we used TG and him and the middleman completely secured the original account that came with it with no problems. I actually even let the buyer login to check that everything is unlinked and the account is as advertised. The buyer claims I might have taken the account back or the original seller might have taken it back but after a whole month of no problems its impossible. I had that account for almost a month and no issue until the buyer bought it and all of a sudden it's recalled. It is very possible the buyer has changed the email and is simply trying to frame me due to the dissatisfaction of the queue times and him knowing I wasn't going to refund him due to me have no control over it. The only way for me to have taken the account back would be by requesting a link from moonton support which only lasts 48 hours and it has definitely been more than 48 hrs without me having any access to the account. If you need further info, I can explain further on any topic you are confused on and even help by telling who the original owner is and he is even better at knowing this stuff since he sells accs.

I've repeatedly emphasized that I couldn't change the email or password due to the cooldown period, as you're fully aware. I've told this point numerous times. Even if we consider the statement you've provided here(screenshot) regarding the cooldown being lifted after 12 days, our deal was on September 8, and the problems began on September 18 (which is only 10 days). So, logically, the cooldown would still have been in effect, making it impossible for me to make any changes.

Furthermore, it's essential to acknowledge that you wouldn't have mentioned the original owner information in your thread if I hadn't brought this issue to your attention.

MOKALACIE said:
Also what is the point of this dispute if the buyer is not sharing any info about his side of the story publicly. What is there to hide if he is trying to disprove me?

I'm sharing staff-only content related to this topic, which contains sensitive information. I don't have anything to hide since I have done nothing wrong. I am just not comfortable sharing sensitive data across the forum.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 19, 2023

If I wanted to be precise, I could follow the forum rules where if you label yourself as the original owner, a full refund must be issued. However, I'd rather not take that route because I still have hope that you might not be directly involved in this. So, I request that you reach out to the original owner or the seller you mentioned, who supposedly has more experience in this matter.

Descream4 · Sep 19, 2023

Moonton account has 12 day cooldown before it can be changed to a different email (according to seller). Transaction took place on September 8. Email was changed on September 18.

Seller claims to be original owner in thread but has clarified that this is false to the buyer before the transaction occurred (please do not list as original owner if you’re not, this is false advertisement).

@MOKALACIE If the cooldown is 12 days & the original email was provided, but it isn’t linked to this email, it would lead me to believe that this email is not the original email & the account was recalled to whatever email is.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

AZURAKAGAMI said:
If I wanted to be precise, I could follow the forum rules where if you label yourself as the original owner, a full refund must be issued. However, I'd rather not take that route because I still have hope that you might not be directly involved in this. So, I request that you reach out to the original owner or the seller you mentioned, who supposedly has more experience in this matter.

So why did you buy the account? You were hoping to get a refund from me? Why would you buy it then if you knew? You can't agree to something and then say it's against the rules.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

AZURAKAGAMI said:
I've repeatedly emphasized that I couldn't change the email or password due to the cooldown period, as you're fully aware. I've told this point numerous times. Even if we consider the statement you've provided here(screenshot) regarding the cooldown being lifted after 12 days, our deal was on September 8, and the problems began on September 18 (which is only 10 days). So, logically, the cooldown would still have been in effect, making it impossible for me to make any changes.

Furthermore, it's essential to acknowledge that you wouldn't have mentioned the original owner information in your thread if I hadn't brought this issue to your attention.

I'm sharing staff-only content related to this topic, which contains sensitive information. I don't have anything to hide since I have done nothing wrong. I am just not comfortable sharing sensitive data across the forum.

I always mention that it is not original if the buyer asks, so that's not true, and for the sensitive info that's fair enough.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

Descream4 said:
Moonton account has 12 day cooldown before it can be changed to a different email (according to seller). Transaction took place on September 8. Email was changed on September 18.

Seller claims to be original owner in thread but has clarified that this is false to the buyer before the transaction occurred (please do not list as original owner if you’re not, this is false advertisement).

@MOKALACIE If the cooldown is 12 days & the original email was provided, but it isn’t linked to this email, it would lead me to believe that this email is not the original email & the account was recalled to whatever email is.

Here's the thing, I know this can get confusing but look, the original seller sold me the account exactly a month ago, I talked to him and it's impossible for a recall to happen after such a long time has happened. Now I wasn't aware of this but apparently there is also a method of changing the email BEFORE the security lock expires. Meaning he would not have to wait for the 12 days to pass but rather change it right away and simply delete the email of moonton rebind causing the buyer to look innocent. Now realistically I would like to believe that didnt happen, but at the same time, there is no explainable cause of this apart from that. The original seller could not possibly recall the account due to me securing the original email fully followed by the buyer securing the email. Nobody would be able to get in and nobody could request a recovery link from support because those last 48 hrs and buyer has had the account for more than that. Now with all that out of the way, there is zero chance and I mean zero to get the account recalled due to the possibility of these things being absolute 0. This leads me to believe perhaps that the buyer was originally dissatisfied with the purchase due to long queue time after a few days and realized I would not give him a refund as that is beyond my control and therefore did something with the account. I do realize my mistake for listing the account as original even though it wasn't but the buyer and I agreed on fair terms which would nullify anything related to that matter. And for the email recall, this email which I got from the seller that came with the account, [email protected], did not have a security lock on it initially when I got it. However, when I tried to change the email setting after playing a few matches, moonton put a security lock because I have a different make of phone and a different IP.

Descream4 · Sep 19, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Here's the thing, I know this can get confusing but look, the original seller sold me the account exactly a month ago, I talked to him and it's impossible for a recall to happen after such a long time has happened. Now I wasn't aware of this but apparently there is also a method of changing the email BEFORE the security lock expires. Meaning he would not have to wait for the 12 days to pass but rather change it right away and simply delete the email of moonton rebind causing the buyer to look innocent. Now realistically I would like to believe that didnt happen, but at the same time, there is no explainable cause of this apart from that. The original seller could not possibly recall the account due to me securing the original email fully followed by the buyer securing the email. Nobody would be able to get in and nobody could request a recovery link from support because those last 48 hrs and buyer has had the account for more than that. Now with all that out of the way, there is zero chance and I mean zero to get the account recalled due to the possibility of these things being absolute 0. This leads me to believe perhaps that the buyer was originally dissatisfied with the purchase due to long queue time after a few days and realized I would not give him a refund as that is beyond my control and therefore did something with the account. I do realize my mistake for listing the account as original even though it wasn't but the buyer and I agreed on fair terms which would nullify anything related to that matter. And for the email recall, this email which I got from the seller that came with the account, [email protected], did not have a security lock on it initially when I got it. However, when I tried to change the email setting after playing a few matches, moonton put a security lock because I have a different make of phone and a different IP.

Did the person you purchased the account from claim that shadowbeatr was the original email?

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 19, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
So why did you buy the account? You were hoping to get a refund from me? Why would you buy it then if you knew? You can't agree to something and then say it's against the rules.

For obvious reasons, I want to resume using it. Considering our conversation history, how could I have anticipated an account recovery in less than 10 days? I certainly didn't intend to be in this situation or spend my time on it.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

Descream4 said:
Did the person you purchased the account from claim that shadowbeatr was the original email?

They said it was the email that was attached to it and it was the first. When you switch moonton emails there is no way to do anything related to the old email as you saw from the buyer. There is nothing that can be done with the email [email protected] as it was unlinked and can't be used.

Descream4 · Sep 19, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
They said it was the email that was attached to it and it was the first. When you switch moonton emails there is no way to do anything related to the old email as you saw from the buyer. There is nothing that can be done with the email [email protected] as it was unlinked and can't be used.

I see. Well I am not familiar with this game, but I have trouble believing an account couldn’t be recalled. I havent heard of or played a game that had no such option. I am also not certain this email that you gave is the original email. Story doesn’t really add up to me somewhere. Since you claim that the previous owner told you it’s the original, please tag him here.

MOKALACIE · Sep 19, 2023

Descream4 said:
I see. Well I am not familiar with this game, but I have trouble believing an account couldn’t be recalled. I havent heard of or played a game that had no such option. I am also not certain this email that you gave is the original email. Story doesn’t really add up to me somewhere. Since you claim that the previous owner told you it’s the original, please tag him here.

The thing with mlbb is their security is quite good, so once you secure an account, let's say even if the email was changed before sale, the original seller has zero chances of getting the account back because the new email is treated as the email that was already connected. And about the seller I am trying to get ahold of him but he is probably sleeping. I just came back from work but I am also going to sleep and just waiting for him. And as the seller stated, the email that was linked he said was the first email linked.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 20, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
The thing with mlbb is their security is quite good, so once you secure an account, let's say even if the email was changed before sale, the original seller has zero chances of getting the account back because the new email is treated as the email that was already connected.

1) Account retrieval is indeed possible. Therefore, your previous statements appear to be inaccurate. @Descream4, This is a step-by-step guide for the original owner on how to retrieve their account, which can be found at this link: click here.

2) This statement is, shall we say, quite unconventional. Are you suggesting that by initially registering with one email for the MLB Account and then deciding to change it in-game, the second email miraculously takes on the role of the original email? I must admit, it's a notion that piques my curiosity. Could you perhaps elaborate on this rather unique process and what precisely you mean by the new email being treated as the connected email?

I'm genuinely intrigued by the origins of this knowledge. Astonishingly, there are no supporting screenshots or corroborative evidence to accompany these statements. Would you kindly share the source of such invaluable information?

MOKALACIE said:
And about the seller I am trying to get ahold of him but he is probably sleeping. I just came back from work but I am also going to sleep and just waiting for him. And as the seller stated, the email that was linked he said was the first email linked.

Please, could you provide any evidence of that? Just tag the original owner in this thread.

MOKALACIE · Sep 20, 2023

AZURAKAGAMI said:
1) Account retrieval is indeed possible. Therefore, your previous statements appear to be inaccurate. @Descream4, This is a step-by-step guide for the original owner on how to retrieve their account, which can be found at this link: click here.

2) This statement is, shall we say, quite unconventional. Are you suggesting that by initially registering with one email for the MLB Account and then deciding to change it in-game, the second email miraculously takes on the role of the original email? I must admit, it's a notion that piques my curiosity. Could you perhaps elaborate on this rather unique process and what precisely you mean by the new email being treated as the connected email?

I'm genuinely intrigued by the origins of this knowledge. Astonishingly, there are no supporting screenshots or corroborative evidence to accompany these statements. Would you kindly share the source of such invaluable information?

Please, could you provide any evidence of that? Just tag the original owner in this thread.

The account retrieval process is quite limited, having not accessed an account after a month creates a situation of are you really the owner if you waited a whole month to ask for retrieval and therefore they would require to use the current moonton which was linked. Like I said previously, there is a method in which you can change the moonton email before the time of security lock as stated by the seller and having sent info on it. Also "unconventional "? That doesn't really apply to what you were trying to say with accordance to the email change, and because it seems you are knowledgeable of the games account processes, it would be fair to say you would know about the early change. But I will tag the seller that sold me the account.

MOKALACIE · Sep 20, 2023

@Dzee22

Descream4 · Sep 20, 2023

We will wait for the original seller to respond

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 20, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
The account retrieval process is quite limited, having not accessed an account after a month creates a situation of are you really the owner if you waited a whole month to ask for retrieval and therefore they would require to use the current moonton which was linked. Like I said previously, there is a method in which you can change the moonton email before the time of security lock as stated by the seller and having sent info on it. Also "unconventional "? That doesn't really apply to what you were trying to say with accordance to the email change, and because it seems you are knowledgeable of the games account processes, it would be fair to say you would know about the early change. But I will tag the seller that sold me the account.

I possess knowledge on this matter due to my experience on these forums, where I've encountered numerous dispute cases that closely resemble the situation at hand. While you consistently assert that there exists a method to bypass this issue, I would appreciate your assistance in proving these claims. Kindly provide relevant articles, discussions, or any other resources that can educate me on the methods you allude to, as I am currently unfamiliar with them.

On a different note, it's essential to understand that the process of account recovery remains viable at any time. The timeframe, whether it's a week, a month, or even a year, is not a limiting factor. The original owner can initiate the account retrieval process as long as they possess the specific details that only they have knowledge to.

MOKALACIE · Sep 20, 2023

AZURAKAGAMI said:
I possess knowledge on this matter due to my experience on these forums, where I've encountered numerous dispute cases that closely resemble the situation at hand. While you consistently assert that there exists a method to bypass this issue, I would appreciate your assistance in proving these claims. Kindly provide relevant articles, discussions, or any other resources that can educate me on the methods you allude to, as I am currently unfamiliar with them.

On a different note, it's essential to understand that the process of account recovery remains viable at any time. The timeframe, whether it's a week, a month, or even a year, is not a limiting factor. The original owner can initiate the account retrieval process as long as they possess the specific details that only they have knowledge to.

Here you go, now I highly doubt you didn't know about this method since its quite simple but here's a quick tutorial on how to do it.

Descream4 · Sep 20, 2023

Seller was online without response.

@Dzee22 Please respond here

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 20, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Here you go, now I highly doubt you didn't know about this method since its quite simple but here's a quick tutorial on how to do it.

I want to make it clear that I had absolutely no knowledge about this MLB Account recall before you brought it up. Right now, I'm juggling a regular job and adult responsibilities, so I don't have the luxury of time to dive into these matters.

My focus is on my real-world responsibilities, and I'm not equipped to deal with something like this at the moment. Please understand that my response is not meant to undermine your knowledge but to convey my current limitations and priorities, so, you can question things all you like. I lost access, and this has been bothersome to deal with. Honestly, I'm not too concerned about the pocket change at this stage. What really matters to me is shining a light on the fact that you sold me unsecured account that got recovered by god whom but I don't have the access anymore and I highly doubt that Trade Guardian would take that account.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 21, 2023

@Descream4, here are the chat logs of what @Dzee22 sent me in private messages. It appears that this member purchased the account from a reseller. What's more, not only did this member falsely claim to know the original owner, but even the seller who sold them the account denied any involvement in the thread. The situation is quite questionable.

I've reached the point where I no longer wish to handle this matter without the direct involvement of an Admin or Global moderator. Right from the start, there have been instances of dishonesty in our interactions, and I have no desire to engage with individuals who can't uphold their commitments or make false accusations against me. It's crucial to clarify that you don't have any genuine knowledge of the original owner. Please, kindly tag me should any further assistance be required by the staff member for adding additional information to this case. Otherwise, I must express that I've reached my limit, as this matter has proven to be rather time-consuming, and I have other responsibilities to attend to.

MOKALACIE · Sep 21, 2023

AZURAKAGAMI said:
@Descream4, here are the chat logs of what @Dzee22 sent me in private messages. It appears that this member purchased the account from a reseller. What's more, not only did this member falsely claim to know the original owner, but even the seller who sold them the account denied any involvement in the thread. The situation is quite questionable.

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I've reached the point where I no longer wish to handle this matter without the direct involvement of an Admin or Global moderator. Right from the start, there have been instances of dishonesty in our interactions, and I have no desire to engage with individuals who can't uphold their commitments or make false accusations against me. It's crucial to clarify that you don't have any genuine knowledge of the original owner. Please, kindly tag me should any further assistance be required by the staff member for adding additional information to this case. Otherwise, I must express that I've reached my limit, as this matter has proven to be rather time-consuming, and I have other responsibilities to attend to.

The reason why I sold that account was because I got bored with the skins it had to offer, nothing too complicated, just that. I of course tried selling the account for a lot higher but it did not work out and it would take a long time to find a buyer even at 85$. Lowering to price to selling something quicker is a know thing. I do apologize if the account got recalled by the original seller but either you were the one who changed the email, and I understand your problem with adult responsibilities and your job but cmon everyone has responsibilities, or it got recalled by the original owner. Now realistically this is both my fault and the reseller because the reseller sold me the account with risk of recall which in this case might have happened but because of that the problem of the account being lost is my problem. I don't want to blame anybody but in this case the situation is you either did end up changing the email because of the dissatisfaction, or the original seller ended up doing it. Since the reseller stated that I did not receive the original email, it would be impossible for me to recall the account due to some restrictions you should be aware of.

Descream4 · Sep 21, 2023

First of all, I don’t know why @Dzee22 is so hell-bent on avoiding this dispute. I did not ask you to message @AZURAKAGAMI, I asked you to respond here. The things you’ve told him in private could’ve simply been said here. I’ve asked you twice now, in addition to @MOKALACIE ‘s request. I still expect you to respond here.

Please link the thread of the previous account that was resold by @MOKALACIE for $70. Reselling for less than purchased for is not necessarily indicative of any of the things he’s being accused of, but lying about knowing the original owner while also lying about being the original owner yourself in your thread (even if clarified you weren’t later on) is not going to help you in this dispute either.

Has anyone tried contacting support? Right now I see only a few options.

1. The email provided was the original email. The account cannot be recalled without this email (unless this is incorrect), so @AZURAKAGAMI used the method @MOKALACIE showed to change it to his own email early & is lying. I do not believe that this is the case. There is no evidence to support it either.

2. The email given to @AZURAKAGAMI is not the original email. In this case the account was recalled using the original email. @MOKALACIE has the original email & has recalled it. @MOKALACIE please provide me evidence that the email @Dzee22 provided to you is the one you gave to @AZURAKAGAMI.

3. The email given to @AZURAKAGAMI is not the original email & @MOKALACIE was not given the original email either. In that case the account would be recalled by either @Dzee22 or the owner before him (who I will assume was the original owner).

This all is based on the assumption that accounts can only be recalled with the original email & not with other info such as purchase receipts (this seems to be what’s implied from both sides). Right now it will be difficult to determine what exactly happened. Hence that I would suggest contacting support if that’s possible. Since @AZURAKAGAMI has the supposed original email, perhaps he can try contacting support using that email for more information.

Descream4 · Sep 22, 2023

After some back & forth with @Dzee22 it turns out that the email that @AZURAKAGAMI was given is not the original email, but rather @MOKALACIE ’s own email. I am done investigating this. It’s lie after lie here.

@MOKALACIE you owe the buyer a full refund. Let me know when it is completed.

MOKALACIE · Sep 22, 2023

Descream4 said:
After some back & forth with @Dzee22 it turns out that the email that @AZURAKAGAMI was given is not the original email, but rather @MOKALACIE ’s own email. I am done investigating this. It’s lie after lie here.

@MOKALACIE you owe the buyer a full refund. Let me know when it is completed.

Ok and what should I do about the fact that it wasn't my fault that the email was recalled? Wasn't that the resellers fault? Since the reseller basically lied to me about it being impossible to be recalled. I genuinely did not do anything related to recalling the account. I understand it is my fault for selling the account to the buyer because this happened but the reseller told me it was impossible for it to get recalled.

Descream4 · Sep 22, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Ok and what should I do about the fact that it wasn't my fault that the email was recalled? Wasn't that the resellers fault? Since the reseller basically lied to me about it being impossible to be recalled. I genuinely did not do anything related to recalling the account. I understand it is my fault for selling the account to the buyer because this happened but the reseller told me it was impossible for it to get recalled.

I’m not going to continue investigating or discussing this. You’ve been caught lying multiple times now. You’ve wasted a lot of my time here, as well as the buyer’s. Please process the refund as soon as possible.

MOKALACIE · Sep 23, 2023

Descream4 said:
I’m not going to continue investigating or discussing this. You’ve been caught lying multiple times now. You’ve wasted a lot of my time here, as well as the buyer’s. Please process the refund as soon as possible.

Isn't it your job to investigate anything that comes up related to the case? I understand that I didn't tell the truth of the email but that's because I didn't want to get the seller involved. But now that the seller has admitted to not being the original owner, this creates a new problem because that means the account was recalled by the resellers seller. So there has to be some type of action here.

MOKALACIE · Sep 23, 2023

Descream4 said:
I’m not going to continue investigating or discussing this. You’ve been caught lying multiple times now. You’ve wasted a lot of my time here, as well as the buyer’s. Please process the refund as soon as possible.

And I actually was able to search for the account that was changed and it looks like the name and picture were changed. Also, I noticed that the account has a #1 Czech republic chou tag which is not easy to get and I'm guessing the buyer did not get that in the span of 10 days. It could be possible that the buyer still has the account but it's just something I stumbled across.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 23, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
And I actually was able to search for the account that was changed and it looks like the name and picture were changed. Also, I noticed that the account has a #1 Czech republic chou tag which is not easy to get and I'm guessing the buyer did not get that in the span of 10 days. It could be possible that the buyer still has the account but it's just something I stumbled across.

I purchased an account with a high MMR. After relocating to the Czech Republic, the system already gave me the rank to Chou no.1.

I need to clarify: while that's my current nickname, the person in the screenshot isn't me. I don't recognize the squad either. Thanks to the screenshot you provided, I'm now certain the account was recalled. You misled me with the initial email, and it appears you're being dishonest again. Your actions are questionable, and it would be appropriate for you to face consequences.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 23, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Isn't it your job to investigate anything that comes up related to the case? I understand that I didn't tell the truth of the email but that's because I didn't want to get the seller involved. But now that the seller has admitted to not being the original owner, this creates a new problem because that means the account was recalled by the resellers seller. So there has to be some type of action here.

You've lied multiple times:

1) Claiming you know the original owner of the account.

2) Asserting you provided me the original email.

3) You are the original owner.

While you did admit to not being the original owner before the sale, your actions are consistently deceptive. It's clear the account was recalled by the original owner. You've shown a pattern of dishonesty, and I'd rather see you no longer active on this forum. However, if you choose to continue, I demand a full refund, including all fees I've incurred.

Descream4 · Sep 23, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
Isn't it your job to investigate anything that comes up related to the case? I understand that I didn't tell the truth of the email but that's because I didn't want to get the seller involved. But now that the seller has admitted to not being the original owner, this creates a new problem because that means the account was recalled by the resellers seller. So there has to be some type of action here.

I have investigated, now it’s done. I’m not going to investigate anything you bring up anymore. You’ve had your chances.

Please process the refund within 24h or you will be banned.

MOKALACIE · Sep 23, 2023

Descream4 said:
I have investigated, now it’s done. I’m not going to investigate anything you bring up anymore. You’ve had your chances.

Please process the refund within 24h or you will be banned.

That's fair, but since I really tried to keep the reseller out of this because I didn't want him to get in trouble, I am also gonna have to dispute against him. I have pretty solid evidence it was the original owner who recalled it and that is the resellers responsibility. I only lied about the originality due to the fact that I didn't want the reseller to get in trouble.

Descream4 · Sep 23, 2023

Let me know when the refund to @AZURAKAGAMI has been issued.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 23, 2023

MOKALACIE said:
That's fair, but since I really tried to keep the reseller out of this because I didn't want him to get in trouble, I am also gonna have to dispute against him. I have pretty solid evidence it was the original owner who recalled it and that is the resellers responsibility. I only lied about the originality due to the fact that I didn't want the reseller to get in trouble.

You already know my Paypal

Descream4 said:
Let me know when the refund to @AZURAKAGAMI has been issued.

Will do.

AZURAKAGAMI · Sep 24, 2023

@MOKALACIE where is my money. Are you planning to refund me or not.

Descream4 · Sep 24, 2023

@MOKALACIE If by the next time you log in the refund to @AZURAKAGAMI isn’t processed, your ban will be issued. Last chance.

Descream4 · Sep 24, 2023

Online, no response.

Banned

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