Left 2x false feedback, no proof or anything

HailBreezy · Jul 1, 2013

Hi so basically I have 2x negative feedback right now, and they are both false in my opinion.

The first was changed from positive to negative after the buyer said the account I traded them got recovered, despite providing no proof/opening no scam dispute/not accepting compensation.

Second one is from a banned scammer, they scammed me for a league of legends skin code, then proceeded to block me and leave negative feedback, again with no scam thread or anything...

please get these removed.

T3hEmperor · Jul 2, 2013

I wasn't planning on pursuing this since I got my account back but since you decided to open this thread..

Me and Hail traded accounts. I gave him my Original account, He gave me an account he has traded for from Hunterkilleryo. (on these forums) I had the account for about 3 days before being locked out of the account. I immediately message Hail on Skype and asked him what was going on, At the same time I checked the forum to see if anyone was trying to trade/sell the account that was traded to me, When I discovered Hunterkilleryo's post stating..

hunterkilleryo said:
Account NOT TRADED, deal fell through still up for trade for a D3 account.

So I went back to Skype and told Hail that he needed to give me my original account back if he could not provide me with the account that he said he had access to. At this point he did offer me an account of similar value, but how could I trust that this account would not get taken in another 3 days? He refused to give me my original account back and so I went to Riot to regain access to my account as he left me with no options. I kept up with hunterkilleryo's post just to see if he would respond to me and I found this reply..

hunterkilleryo said:
I don't know whats going on with your situation, but between Hail and I, I traded my LOL for his D3. But the account got hacked and locked so he refunded my account.

So Hail could give this man his account back because his end of the trade fell through, but he could not extend the same to me? Here is a link to Hunterkilleryo's post on these forums just so you know I'm not mis-quoting him or anything.

hunterkilleryo's forum post

HailBreezy · Jul 2, 2013

T3hEmperor said:
I wasn't planning on pursuing this since I got my account back but since you decided to open this thread..

Me and Hail traded accounts. I gave him my Original account, He gave me an account he has traded for from Hunterkilleryo. (on these forums) I had the account for about 3 days before being locked out of the account. I immediately message Hail on Skype and asked him what was going on, At the same time I checked the forum to see if anyone was trying to trade/sell the account that was traded to me, When I discovered Hunterkilleryo's post stating..

So I went back to Skype and told Hail that he needed to give me my original account back if he could not provide me with the account that he said he had access to. At this point he did offer me an account of similar value, but how could I trust that this account would not get taken in another 3 days? He refused to give me my original account back and so I went to Riot to regain access to my account as he left me with no options. I kept up with hunterkilleryo's post just to see if he would respond to me and I found this reply..

So Hail could give this man his account back because his end of the trade fell through, but he could not extend the same to me? Here is a link to Hunterkilleryo's post on these forums just so you know I'm not mis-quoting him or anything.

hunterkilleryo's forum post

I suggest you open a scam report if you have an issue. I offered you compensation and you have said you were pursuing action to recover your own account, there's nothing more I can do. If I had your account in my possession I would've returned it.

Edit: at the very least don't leave neg. feedback saying I recovered the account when I made it clear to you that 1) I was not original owner and 2) it's obvious I'm not the one who recalled it at this stage.

Epic 1NPC · Jul 2, 2013

there's 2 feedback disputes here.

Dispute 1

1) Was the trade between hailbreezy and T3hEmperor for 2 LoL account? or 1 lol account and something else?

2) 3 days after the trade T3hEmperor is claiming the account was recalled. hailbreezy did you contact the seller you got it from? Why couldn't they recover it for you?

3) The trade was June 22nd, so as soon as you (hailbreezy) got the LoL account you sold it or retraded it?

4) the trade between Hunterkilleryo and hailbreezy was for a Lol and D3 account, so I'm not sure how that is relevant to this dispute at all.

Dispute 2

"bought" pax sivir from him, sent $20, then he removed me.

post a screenshot of the chat logs where he paid you, you gave him the code, then he said it was successful.

HailBreezy · Jul 2, 2013

EpicNPC said:
there's 2 feedback disputes here.

Dispute 1

1) Was the trade between hailbreezy and T3hEmperor for 2 LoL account? or 1 lol account and something else?

2) 3 days after the trade T3hEmperor is claiming the account was recalled. hailbreezy did you contact the seller you got it from? Why couldn't they recover it for you?

3) The trade was June 22nd, so as soon as you (hailbreezy) got the LoL account you sold it or retraded it?

4) the trade between Hunterkilleryo and hailbreezy was for a Lol and D3 account, so I'm not sure how that is relevant to this dispute at all.

Dispute 2

post a screenshot of the chat logs where he paid you, you gave him the code, then he said it was successful.

1) Two LoL accounts
2)I did, they wanted their account back because the b.net account I traded them got locked due to suspicious activity.
3)A few days after, yeah.
4)It's relevant because Hunterkilleryo is the OO and wanted his account back.

T3hEmperor · Jul 2, 2013

EpicNPC said:
there's 2 feedback disputes here.

Dispute 1

1) Was the trade between hailbreezy and T3hEmperor for 2 LoL account? or 1 lol account and something else?

2) 3 days after the trade T3hEmperor is claiming the account was recalled. hailbreezy did you contact the seller you got it from? Why couldn't they recover it for you?

3) The trade was June 22nd, so as soon as you (hailbreezy) got the LoL account you sold it or retraded it?

4) the trade between Hunterkilleryo and hailbreezy was for a Lol and D3 account, so I'm not sure how that is relevant to this dispute at all.

In response to 1 and 4.. The trade between me and Hail was for 2 LoL Accounts. My LoL account for his LoL account, Which he DID tell me he was not the OO, But said he was still in contact with said individual so if anything happened he could ahold of the guy for me, The OO of the account being traded TO me was Hunterkilleryo which is why he is relevant to the dispute. Because his posts on this forum alerted me to the fact that the account I had traded for was in fact his and that he had gotten it back from Hail when their trade had gone bad. (for whatever reason, that's between Hunter and Hail)

I have my original account back after back and forth e-mails with Riot so I really had no reason to persue any actions on the forums other than to let people know that the account that was traded to me was recalled via the Feedback function.

My problem here is that because a deal went bad between Hail and Hunter, The trade that I made with Hail turned out to be a bust, and while hail did give hunter back his original account, at that point it wasn't his to give back and my original account was traded or sold off within hours/days of me and Hails trade so whoever bought or traded for my original account also got screwed out of his money/account, because I had no choice but to get back what was mine since our deal didn't work out.

HailBreezy · Jul 2, 2013

T3hEmperor said:
In response to 1 and 4.. The trade between me and Hail was for 2 LoL Accounts. My LoL account for his LoL account, Which he DID tell me he was not the OO, But said he was still in contact with said individual so if anything happened he could ahold of the guy for me, The OO of the account being traded TO me was Hunterkilleryo which is why he is relevant to the dispute. Because his posts on this forum alerted me to the fact that the account I had traded for was in fact his and that he had gotten it back from Hail when their trade had gone bad. (for whatever reason, that's between Hunter and Hail)

I have my original account back after back and forth e-mails with Riot so I really had no reason to persue any actions on the forums other than to let people know that the account that was traded to me was recalled via the Feedback function.

My problem here is that because a deal went bad between Hail and Hunter, The trade that I made with Hail turned out to be a bust, and while hail did give hunter back his original account, at that point it wasn't his to give back and my original account was traded or sold off within hours/days of me and Hails trade so whoever bought or traded for my original account also got screwed out of his money/account, because I had no choice but to get back what was mine since our deal didn't work out.

Hunterkilleryo recovered his account via a pass reset or something, I didn't hand it back to him myself.

The guy who I sold your account to has already gotten a refund, so basically every trade made was reversed and we are back at square one. If you want to leave me a neg feedback saying I couldn't reimburse you thats fine but don't say I recover accounts because I don't.

Epic 1NPC · Jul 3, 2013

I still dont' understand the relavance of this lol/D3 trade with Hunterkilleryo
http://www.epicnpc.com/league-legen...ol-gold-1550-elo-acct-diablo-iii-account.html

June 20th - "traded to signface22 smooth trade"
June 27th - "Account NOT TRADED, deal fell through still up for trade for a D3 account."
June 27th - feedback from Hunterkilleryo to hailbreezy

Hunterkilleryo is owner of lol2
June 22 - T3hEmperor trades lol1 (OO) to hailbreezy for lol2 (not OO)
June 25 - 3 days later lol2 is recalled
hailbreezy trades/sells lol1 to someone else
T3hEmperor reclaims lol1

1) The thread from above with Hunterkilleryo, explain that to me. It seems it was traded to signface22, but you guys are saying hailbreezy got the LOL account. I don't understand because the feedback wasn't even given until June 27th, so how could it have been the same account from the June 22nd trade?

2) hailbreezy you said you traded lol1 to someone, which is why you couldn't give it back. Did you refund that person or is there going to be another scam thread against you in the near future?

T3hEmperor · Jul 3, 2013

signface22 is his Skype name. Doing a search of that skype name reveals an old banned account on the forums from February.

HailBreezy · Jul 3, 2013

1) Hunter never left me feedback until after the problem occured.
2) I already refunded that person, he wasn't from Epic.

Epic 1NPC · Jul 4, 2013

thank you for clearing up that was his skype

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