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astoriah

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(i know you guys don’t settle discord disputes but this person has been threatening me here and on discord all day because they’re foolish)

earlier in the day i had dm’d them here and on discord regarding a genshin impact na account. they had declined my offer and i had moved on. later someone by the name of xoon contacted me on discord about my account (i’ve made many posts here) they then told me this person wanted to trade with them and asked if i could vouch if our trade went well. i did this. later the account xoon had given me did not work, so i asked Itachi9098 how their interaction went. they told me that Xoon never paid them. i told them how to contact mihoyo i told them i was apologetic and that i’d be able to get my account back through top ups and receipts and that they unfortunately would have a harder time since they did not. they told me the account they got scammed out of was their ONLY account. that part is important.

later on someone by the name of demarcus contacted me about my account i asked them multiple questions and then inquired about when they’d want to do the trade since i did not have the account back yet. then suddenly this person reveals themself to be itachi9098 and comes up with this elaborate idea that i was xoon and i attempted to scam them. they called me scum, trash, etc.

mind you, when Itachi9098 was scammed i felt bad and gave them two accounts for free. a 4x5* and a 2x5* (initially i had no use for them and had earlier told them this so i figured they’d be able to use them) i was nothing but kind to this person so this bizarre delusional behavior shocked me.

then i figured out this person had stolen pictures from epicnpc or elsewhere and made an alternative discord to try to scam me, and when confronted they blocked me and began to threaten me. if you have access to our epic npc dms they repeatedly told me they’d contact mihoyo and epic and told me that i better leave the business because 1 they’re afraid their reputation will be ruined since they tried to scam me and threatened me belittled me and harassed me on two accounts and 2 their ego is too big to admit that they were wrong and they know it

after this they called the two accounts i gave them worthless, so i said okay give them back then? they refused. naturally i now feel disgusted about it and so ill get my accounts back ethically through mihoyo to which i informed them and they began to threaten me more.

i dont know if our discord dms will provide anything since you don’t settle disputes there but i figured since they said they’d run and lie here to try to get me banned id share my side of the story (and also you can see on our dms here they continued to bother me)
 
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Here I will open up my side of the story:

I was selling/trading a genshin impact account and I had many offers over the last few weeks. I was unfortunately scammed by a discord user named Xoon on Wednesday. I was promised an account that I was locked out of and I lost my account in the process. Before this incident, I was contacted by the above person filing this dispute against me. Their discord name is Rem. They had contacted me a few days before offering their account for a trade. I kindly declined the offer. Coming back to Wednesday, I was contacted by Xoon and they said that they wanted to buy my account for $400. I declined because I did not want to trade without a middleman. Xoon then came up with the idea that I would hold his account first as a sign of trust and then I would give him my account info. After he confirms everything in my account is correct, he would pay via PayPal. I did not believe that he was a trustworthy person because again, I did not want to trade without a middleman. Notice that in all of this, I have not once tried to scam anyone, I have not called anyone names, absolutely nothing. Seeing that I won’t give up my account so easily, Xoon tells me that he is trustworthy because he was trading accounts with another person who contacted me recently, rem/astoriah, the person filing this dispute. Because I trusted Rem/Astoriah, I asked them how the transaction went and they said that there were some sketchy parts but the transaction went through and they even gave me pictures as proof. Knowing this, I now trusted Xoon and went through the transaction. Xoon gave me his account to hold, then I confirmed everything and gave him my account. I waited patiently for Xoon to pay the $400 to me in Paypal but I did not receive anything. After that, he unfriended me and left me a nasty message. What does this all have to do with Rem/Astoriah you may ask? Well, coincidentally after I gave Xoon my account info, Rem contacted me and said that they were locked out of their account and they lost it. I was surprised that both of us had been scammed so naturally I asked them for more info on how to get my account back so on and so forth. (Notice that I still haven’t tried to scam or doing anything to any user). They were kind enough to give me their account and I declined the first time knowing that it was their account and I can’t accept that but they insisted upon me taking the two accounts so naturally I took them and thanked them for their kindness. (I did not in any way force them or scam them to give me the accounts, it was merely out of pity and choice that they decided to personally give me the accounts so I don’t know where the “scamming and retrieving the accounts dispute is coming from). I talked with Rem for awhile that day and I thought of something strange. What if Rem and Astoriah were the same person? Of course at this point, there isn’t much to prove that, so I decided that for the next two days, I would make a second discord account to figure out if Rem was still using the ACCOUNT THAT HE TRADED TO XOON to trade with other people. I knew that if you lost your account, there would be no way you would be using it to trade because you obviously don’t have the account details. For example, right after I lost my account, I immediately closed my trading and selling threads relating to that account and if anyone dm’ed me on discord I just said that I was scammed and unfortunately I don’t have the account anymore. Rem/Astoriah on the other hand kept their threads open. I contacted them with my secondary discord account and asked them if they were still trading FOR THAT SPECIFIC ACCOUNT THAT THEY SUPPOSEDLY ”TRADED”. Rem replied saying yes, they were still trading that account and it was at this point that I was purely amazed by the grandiose scheme of the plan. How could Rem who “supposedly traded his account” be trading that same account the next day? The only reason I could think of is that they were using that to scam people such as me. So I asked some more questions to make sure that they were absolutely interested in trading and they said yes and continued to say yes. They even said, “when could we trade”, which is a very common question between traders when they are ready to trade. It was at this point that I berated them for their scamming scheme and I even said that they were scum because I absolutely cannot handle people who scam people and take their possessions. People work hard and long to get money and time to put into their account and to be scammed like this? Of course you would be mad! So Rem continued to act like they were innocent and kept asking for the two accounts that they VOLUNTARILY gave to me. Naturally, I declined and I continued to talk back. In hindsight, I realized that I acted inappropriately and no one is deserving of the harsh comments that I said but I was really quite mad and very upset at the situation, and for good reason. After that argument, Rem continued to talk to me on my primary discord account and the argument kept continuing and both of us got very heated. Now again, I apologize for my harsh words and I now realize that there are other ways to deal with situations like this, but I was not looking forward to spending the rest of my evening arguing with someone who scammed me. So I decided to block them and unfriend them. NOW THEY CONTINUED to harass me on epicnpc private messages and kept saying that they were going to ban me and post me in public forums calling me a scammer. In every single part of this exchange, I have not once tried to scam anyone. I have not once tried to trick anyone into giving me anything. AND I HAVE NOT ONCE STOLEN ANYONE’S PROPERTY. At one point, I even offered to give back the accounts and formally apologize to Rem but they declined saying that they have all the evidence against me and will talk to Mihoyo and take back their accounts. EVEN NOW, I could gladly give back their accounts if they do not continue to harass me and talk to me and if I gave them the accounts and we would be on good terms, that would be fantastic, and none of us would have to worry about any further disputes. Now I have studied in law school and I understand all the implications of their actions and my actions. I will gladly return their accounts that are rightfully theirs, but I do hope that I at least get something in return such as a short statement saying that they will not continue to talk to me and threaten disputes. If you think I scammed anyone at this point, I really don’t know what to say to you. I have over 500 positive reviews on Ebay and I have used Epicnpc in many transactions and I have to say, everything went very smoothly and I have not once tried to scam or deceive anyone over my listings. I hope that Astoriah and I can come to some sort of mutual agreement.

Now Astoriah if you are indeed not a scammer or even if you are, I realized that my words have been harsh and I should not have said anything that included saying scum, vermin, or anything of the sort. That was a major mistake on my behalf and I formally apologize to you because I believe that everyone deserves a second chance and a chance to be proven innocent so I am sorry if my strong words were harsh but if you understand my situation, (which you should), I extremely dislike people who try to pull off elaborate scams and I am extremely hell-bent on getting rid of scammers and dishonest people.
 
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The main focus of Astoriah is that they are trying to pin me down on the part that I investigated them using a secondary account and that I used fake photos to lure them into saying that they were still trading. Obviously I would not have traded that account and I was merely using those photos to get Rem/Astoriah to reveal that they still have the account that they supposedly already traded off to Xoon. IF I REALLY WANTED to scam them, I would not have stopped that conversation to accuse them of being a scammer. Instead, if I wanted to scam them, I would have tried to continue the conversation and initiate an exchange over Discord. Obviously, I did not do that and the pictures and proof will show as much. I had absolutely no intention of using a fake discord to scam people and I have not made that discord public, therefore no one could contact it. As for the photos of the account, I already explained above why I had to do that. So any accusations against me being a scammer at this point are simply untrue and unjustified. The accuser may choose to manipulate those photos and the conversation however they would like, but I already took my photos and I have many people to back up my honesty and my integrity in my transactions and conversations.
 
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i told them i was astoriah from the beginning so i don’t know why they’re acting surprised about that. they received the same offer from me on both accounts and i mentioned it multiple times.

the fact is that they’re only changing the story now because they saw i went through with a report. (previously they had lied to me and said they had already contacted epicnpc and reported me and made multiple threats against me saying i better quit the business and everything because of what they would do)

they never once offered to give me accounts back and continued to say they would not unless i sent them even more “proof” but i wanted no further interaction with them after everything they said to me (which they’ve admitted and now are trying to pretend they’re sorry about) the way they’re describing this interaction now is a complete 360 from how they were being earlier PRIOR to me filing the report.

and i’m sorry but to put it plainly even here they sound stupid, someone scams them and the person trades with me so that means i’m a scammer? because i offered an account to them before (multiple times on discord and for other accounts too) they decide to make some elaborate story and say disgusting things to me because SOMEONE ELSE scammed them.

ridiculous.
i said when do you want to trade which does not mean i’m trading with them it means what is says when would you want to do the trade and then i told them i did not have the account back yet and that’s why i was asking
 
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they say they’re extremely hell bent on getting scammers banned but tried to scam me by stealing pictures and everything else i didn’t provide any photos so there’s no way i manipulated anything another fact in this is that on discord you can’t manipulate photos and when you do edit messages it says that they took screenshots of whatever side of the conversation they chose to but i can provide my discord ACCOUNT and you can see the unedited raw messages yourself

the only person in the wrong here is them and the fact that they only want to apologize because they got caught and because i actually reported them (again they lied and said i was gonna be banned by epic) is disgusting
 
I don’t understand why you are saying that I am surprised that you are Astoriah, did you even read my reply? I did not change the story whatsoever and I have the pictures to prove it. I already went into details about why I think you scammed me, so obviously you did not give a care in the world about what I wrote and you are still trying to argue with me. I already said that I would gladly give you back the accounts in return for not harassing me and saying that I am disgusting. I already explained why I “stole” those pictures and the reason behind that so you are just repeating yourself at this point. I am trying to be as civil as possible and I did not even file a dispute or a ban against you and epicnpc can prove that. I thought about it and I said you know what, I won’t delve into this matter any further. You are the one that is making this difficult and you are the one that filed the dispute first so technically I haven’t done a single thing to hurt your reputation and still you are trying to say that I scammed you? As for my language and brash behavior, I already formally apologized about that and I genuinely meant it, but that does not deserve or justify a ban or a warning whatsoever.
 
also them trying to say i harassed them after the language they used with me and how i kindly told them to leave me alone multiple times and they continued to berate me is wild

they also messaged me saying they never said they only had one account

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they are changing their behavior if you read our dms which by the way they never privately apologized to me only here and only because they got a violation which is why i don’t think it’s genuine and just for show at the end of the day you treated me terribly after my kindness to you over a conspiracy theory you created in your head
 
I literally said that if you could prove that you did not scam me I would apologize and give you back your accounts but after that you just continued to berate me and call me disgusting
 
Also you have to understand that from my perspective, when you said you wanted to trade even when you traded that account the other day, that seemed very suspicious because I thought you had already traded it off. And although this may be a huge understanding on my part, you should not be accepting trades with other people when you’ve already traded off that account and you don’t have it anymore
 
This is the main reason I was upset and the main reason I am accusing you but even if you are a scammer (or if you’re not), I would like to settle this in a civilized manner. Note that I am not trying to dispute anything and that I just want a mutual agreement. If you want to keep arguing, I really don’t know what else to do I mean you do know that I was very nice to you before you said that you still were trading that account.
 
i never accepted the trade i said i was interested and asked when they’d like to trade ^^ btw i ignored them for more than a day and they continued to ask which is the only reason i replied
 
Okay and on that behalf, I apologize if I spammed you but why would you say you are interested and ask for the time if you don’t have the account in the first place. If you would kindly explain this, I will apologize and resolve this matter, that’s all I want, just a clear explanation.
 
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We do not investigate discord scams unless you have a payment as evidence. I am unable to see any above so i am going to close this.
 
i asked for the pictures of the account and for more information and when the person (aka you lying and using stolen pictures in disguise) when they’d want to trade so i could explain the situation to them because again- i’ll be able to get my account back regardless lol you kept spamming me THATS why i replied
 
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