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Information
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Purchase Date: 5/10/21
Date the problem began: 5/12/21
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Forum Listing & Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: GeorgeYoung
Your Instant Messenger ID: xxxthanosxxx
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-cheap-day1-32m-indy-character-with-6-5m-unallocated-sp.1926841/
Approximate value of property: $292.53 USD ($230.76 EUR) This counts the fees due to USD to EUR conversion. Base value was $220 EUR
Was Trade Guardian used? No, if I wasnt new to the site it would have been more obvious that people are able to use this site's internal chat to scam. Never dealt with that before.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
What is the dispute about?
I asked for the price on site, was contacted on site, agreed to terms through Discord, paid through Paypal.
(Was not super concerned since the only handover was a single google account)
When the funds finally cleared Paypal (took about 48hrs) the seller marked it as "SOLD" in the listing itself almost immediately.
Then the other shoe dropped and he changed his name in discord, eventually getting triggered because I was trying to resolve it without having to take another avenue.
Other details / notes:
One reason I had no concern that the Discord person and the seller were the same person, was their activity. Both were offline for large swathes of time and then online at almost exactly the same time each time which you should be able to see on your side but I have screenshots that also show that. But also, knowing that the funds were held and when they were released is something ONLY the discord user and the Paypal receiver would have known, so when the seller marked it as "SOLD" perfectly in time with the funds clearing... I believe if you were to look at the timestamps in the conversation and the timestamps inside this site for when the seller posted and when he was online/offline, you'll see what I noticed as well. I only noticed because I kept going back to the selling page to see if he made any updates when he did come online in discord and GeorgeYang (the seller on site) was almost always active within a few minutes. It's an uncanny connection that two different people would have activity times that are all across the day and night but be so close. All of my timestamps are in Central Standard Time.
Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
This is where we started:
Here is an example of the timing of he rare events where he was active at all. Usually he was active for a burst of a few moments and then gone. This is to line up with the timestamps you see above.
This is when he changed his name and the majority of conversation:
And then this was when he got triggered because I was trying to resolve this peacefully:
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
Not sure what else there is to put. Obviously the only reason I got responses from him was due to bringing up the May 16th deadline. He thought he was free and clear and the money was already is, I think that shocked him.
Just let me know if there is something else I need to do. Even if nobody can help me do anything about this, which I kinda feel like the result will be, I wanted to put this out there hoping that someone else doesn't run into the same jerk pulling the same stunt. I was also hoping maybe you could help me identify what country he's even from, at least an idea.
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Purchase Date: 5/10/21
Date the problem began: 5/12/21
Method of Contact Used (chat progam): Forum Listing & Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: GeorgeYoung
Your Instant Messenger ID: xxxthanosxxx
Other information:
DISPUTE Information
######################
Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/wts-cheap-day1-32m-indy-character-with-6-5m-unallocated-sp.1926841/
Approximate value of property: $292.53 USD ($230.76 EUR) This counts the fees due to USD to EUR conversion. Base value was $220 EUR
Was Trade Guardian used? No, if I wasnt new to the site it would have been more obvious that people are able to use this site's internal chat to scam. Never dealt with that before.
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
What is the dispute about?
I asked for the price on site, was contacted on site, agreed to terms through Discord, paid through Paypal.
(Was not super concerned since the only handover was a single google account)
When the funds finally cleared Paypal (took about 48hrs) the seller marked it as "SOLD" in the listing itself almost immediately.
Then the other shoe dropped and he changed his name in discord, eventually getting triggered because I was trying to resolve it without having to take another avenue.
Other details / notes:
One reason I had no concern that the Discord person and the seller were the same person, was their activity. Both were offline for large swathes of time and then online at almost exactly the same time each time which you should be able to see on your side but I have screenshots that also show that. But also, knowing that the funds were held and when they were released is something ONLY the discord user and the Paypal receiver would have known, so when the seller marked it as "SOLD" perfectly in time with the funds clearing... I believe if you were to look at the timestamps in the conversation and the timestamps inside this site for when the seller posted and when he was online/offline, you'll see what I noticed as well. I only noticed because I kept going back to the selling page to see if he made any updates when he did come online in discord and GeorgeYang (the seller on site) was almost always active within a few minutes. It's an uncanny connection that two different people would have activity times that are all across the day and night but be so close. All of my timestamps are in Central Standard Time.
Proof
######################
You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!
Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):
This is where we started:
Here is an example of the timing of he rare events where he was active at all. Usually he was active for a burst of a few moments and then gone. This is to line up with the timestamps you see above.
This is when he changed his name and the majority of conversation:
And then this was when he got triggered because I was trying to resolve this peacefully:
Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
Not sure what else there is to put. Obviously the only reason I got responses from him was due to bringing up the May 16th deadline. He thought he was free and clear and the money was already is, I think that shocked him.
Just let me know if there is something else I need to do. Even if nobody can help me do anything about this, which I kinda feel like the result will be, I wanted to put this out there hoping that someone else doesn't run into the same jerk pulling the same stunt. I was also hoping maybe you could help me identify what country he's even from, at least an idea.
