I was labeled as a scamer but i got scammed .

[Kaleschky]

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I was trying to buy a Armored warfare account https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/arm...r-premium-39k-gold-291mil-credits-50.1536139/ .I was contacted by someone on discord that told me that i was selling the account .When i already made the payment the person told me to give it more money .Then later i was contacted by the original seller of the account LM458 and then he reported me for scamming .Later that day i was blocked out of my PC Lost 90% of my data and now Im trying to fix the issue .Thats the only evidence that i have left. I lost a lot of money .I have tried to contact Paypal about the issue but i got no answers so far .Im a member of EpicNPC since 2013 sold some accounts thing is i never asked for feedback .Just visit the posts that i did .Thank you for your understanding

 

[Angel]

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Please post an image of the discord ID with the #

 

[Kaleschky]

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Wish i can ,but all of the data i had is gone .After he scammed me my pc stopped working and rebooted itself and then i was greeted with a blue screen .Currently im replying you from a laptop .Trying to recover my data and some other stuff .Unfortunately discord does not keep history of the messages and this person has disappeared from my discord .However i have the email were the money was sent to and the name .

 

[Angel]

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@Kaleschky same as you posted a conversation image you can post a discord ID with #

Discord account has nothing to do with your lost data

Also please post an email where did you send the payment

 

[Kaleschky]

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Here is the info .
Unfortunately i cant find the discord ID of that person .
I know it does not have anything but I had a lot of screenshots of the conversation ,but now is gone .Do you know if Discord has some history option ?

 

[Angel]

[email protected] belongs to @reinvent

@lm458 @reinvent can you explain what happens here

 

[lm458]

I have no idea whats going on , i reported our whole conversation. My opinion this guy all acting up.

 

[Angel]

@lm458 can you please post an image with a whole conversation with @Kaleschky

 

[lm458]

 

[lm458]

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i contacted him on epicnpc website first before adding him on discord , dude trading from 2013 but still fails to verify the real seller from scammers, said he lost 450$ in total from scams which he never reported then after he got scammed 50$ he never appealead which is sketchy + before he claims he lost all his data i asked him to show all the conversation he had with claimed guy which scammed him he only posted this same exactly picture instead of posting whole conversation which he did not and then after some time he went offline and now he claims he lost all his data.

 

[reinvent]

I don’t have a clue who you guys are

 

[lm458]

 

[Angel]

@reinvent how you can explain this payment at your email?

 

[reinvent]

I’ll show my last previous conversation and pay transaction with the last person who brought from me on PayPal

 

[reinvent]

I believe it might be that guy LM I think he tried scamming me as well goes by develop & reli

 

[reinvent]

This dude is buying accounts for people claiming he doesn’t get them this is my whole conversation

 

[reinvent]

I don’t know who’s Who from these people in this conversation whoever develop is is the scammer he tried claiming he brought an account I didn’t ask for

 

[reinvent]

Kept wanting me too pay half and send me info after so I told him I do not want to do any business with him after I sent him whatever he brought I also have email confirmation of the stuff he asked me to buy and ive sent too him

 

[reinvent]

Here’s confirmation for you

 

[reinvent]

Aside from this I don’t have a clue why I’m here

 

[reinvent]

This as well

 

[reinvent]

Here is develop again if you need for more proof feel free to ask I’ll show this whole conversation as well I was blocked after this screenshot (he also tried phishing my account which was my PayPal account he tried charging my card 12.00$ and tried using it too buy something my bank froze the transaction I just saw it now I can show proof of that too) he sent me a link to a g2a website and almost scammed me there yet again

 

[reinvent]

I don’t know how to get the email from the transaction

 

[lm458]

neither do i know any of these guys i just sell and buy accounts.

 

[reinvent]

@Angel im sorry to waste your time but I truly don’t know how I was brought into this idk how they had my info either but I believe that same person who brought from me is the same person Inside this chat he has the same name as well so I’m positive it’s him trying to scam someone else

 

[reinvent]

As far I see from this LM is Develop the guy who scammed me as well seems like he’s trying to chargeback on my PayPal when I’ve sent the correct codes too him too the emails even prove it can contact g2a and they’ll definitely say the codes were real so he scammed kales

 

[Angel]

@reinvent to find transaction email click on the transaction in your paypal account and the seller's email should be on the "details" page.

Take an image and post here

 

[lm458]

More like u both scammers working together throwing assumptions left and right , there is no way he got ur email out of thin air

 

[reinvent]

Here You go his email

 

[reinvent]

More like u both scammers working together throwing assumptions left and right , there is no way he got ur email out of thin air

Yeah somehow someone got my email outta thin air

 

[reinvent]

That’s why I’m here

 

[reinvent]

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Not sure if you can trace this dude’s ip but I’ll happily let you sign in my discord too see if he’s here

 

[reinvent]

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I don’t get notification emails from this but if you need too reach me @Angel my discord is Sarielth#3825 I’ll hop back on this site if you do add me

 

[Angel]

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This paypal email belongs to @Kaleschky

@reinvent please post an image with develop both Discord ID with the #

 

[reinvent]

Haha I was gonna do that already here you go you read my mind

 

[reinvent]

They both speak the same in those screenshots which is quite weird too me but I cannot make assumptions their grammar seems similar as well

 

[Angel]

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@Kaleschky can you explain why did you target @reinvent email as a person who scammed you?

Also in the first image, you posted a conversation with a scammer discord that actually belongs to you. Explain also this please

 

[reinvent]

Even the title says scamer but like I said no assumptions

 

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[Kaleschky]

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Sorry for the late reply .I did not target anyone but when this develop asked me to pay for the account he gave me this paypal mail . Also he added me on discord .I did not add him .

 

[reinvent]

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Same here he added me on discord as well

 

[Angel]

@Kaleschky at the beginning of this dispute you claimed that you were scammed for 50 USD. On the image you posted you paid on the email [email protected] and this email belongs to @reinvent

From the other side of the images above he claims that a person known as develop asked him to buy a card on g2a and he paid him from the Paypal email which belongs to you.

To clarify

- Kaleschky paid to [email protected] (reinvent) and he claims that he is scammed
- reinvent paid to [email protected] (Kaleschky) and from the images above this was for the g2a card

Possibility

There is a chance that scammer was contacted you both and simply convinced Kaleschky to pay on specific email then he gets a card and walks away


@lm458 in your conversation with Kaleschky you accused him of scamming even he informed you that he was scammed by a possible impersonator. Why have you accused him even was clear that he did not have any transaction with you

 

[lm458]

might went overboard a little but he seemed weird to me thats why. after getting scammed waiting without reporting it , sounded to me like i scammed him.Might his story to be true then i apologize for quick judgement not very experienced trader.

talked with him personally he mentioned multiple people uses his pc.

 

[Angel]

Here is develop again if you need for more proof feel free to ask I’ll show this whole conversation as well I was blocked after this screenshot (he also tried phishing my account which was my PayPal account he tried charging my card 12.00$ and tried using it too buy something my bank froze the transaction I just saw it now I can show proof of that too) he sent me a link to a g2a website and almost scammed me there yet again

Can you please post an image with proof that you were hacked

@Kaleschky do you have any more conversation with develop except these you already posted?

 

[Adoxia]

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@Kaleschky Who gave you reinvents paypal email? Was it the develop discord or lm458.

 

[reinvent]

Can you please post an image with proof that you were hacked

@Kaleschky do you have any more conversation with develop except these you already posted?

As for a bank statement I have meta bank which doesn’t issue nor show anything on the website or email sadly so this all I have I was asleep during the time as well

 

[reinvent]

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Can you please post an image with proof that you were hacked

@Kaleschky do you have any more conversation with develop except these you already posted?

Why I believe he was the one who compromised my account as well is he sent me links on discord that I just logged on and possible stole my information on there whether it be my card info or login information for PayPal but I got a new cc now and got my money he stole back

 

[reinvent]

Why I believe he was the one who compromised my account as well is he sent me links on discord that I just logged on and possible stole my information on there whether it be my card info or login information for PayPal but I got a new cc now and got my money he stole back

Which was the 12.84

 

[Kaleschky]

Unfortunately i do not have any more conversation of this .I was scammed this year but none of the account was from Reinvent .
What happened in the pic was that some person contacted me about i think it was a Girls frontline account . I did not sell it to him but he asked me if i can help .Being the gullible ,I always try to help as best as I can .Turns out he was using other people accounts to send me money through PP and then purchase some items in game .I contacted my bank ,PP and the admins of the site .None of them helped.