I have been scammed by a *WELL-KNOWN seller* need help asap! (she unfriended)

[ClashVillage]

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Information
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Purchase Date: 12/12/2022
Date the problem began: 12/12/2022
Method of Contact Used (chat program): Discord
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: giuliana [not the display name, must be real username]
Your Instant Messenger ID: ClashVillage

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): (not sure)
Approximate value of property: $320.00 USD
Was Trade Guardian used? yes
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?
not sure
What is the dispute about?
We set on an amount of money for the account. I send it then she keeps asking for more and more.
Other details / notes:
We set on an amount of money for the account. I send it then she keeps asking for more and more. We agreed I would pay $150 for the account. She said there was an issue, so I need to send another 150. With commission this is $320. Then she said another issue arose and I need to send $300, and I said no I wouldn't. Then she said I have to trust her, but she still has the account and my money.

Proof
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You MUST provide proof or your claim will not be valid!

Chat Log Screenshots (make sure username is visible, not display username):

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Payment Screenshots (make sure the accused email is visible):
Other proof:
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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
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What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc) Nothing, she didn't provide any info to me. She showed me pics of the account but thats all.
How long did you have the account before it was recalled? I didn't get access to it.
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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[giuliana]

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I think you are making the dispute to the wrong person but I have never had a conversation with you

and the screenshots that you show are not mine either, that is not my discord photo, it is this

 

[giuliana]

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surely an impersonator cloned my discord profile, that's why MY PROFILE SAYS CONTACT ME ON THE SITE TO AVOID SCAMMERS

 

[ClashVillage]

How is the impersonator account created before your "main" account? Your "impersonator" was created November 22, 2021, and your "main" account was created November 28, 2021.

 

[giuliana]

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idk but the discord digits are not the same if you look at the images and all my threads have nothing to do with you, also Giuliana is a common name, it's not like I only use it so with the digits that are there you can see that It's not my profile, so again I have nothing to do with you

 

[giuliana]

you could just message me on epicnpc for verification but clearly you didn't, and you were scammed by impersonator

 

[ClashVillage]

you could just message me on epicnpc for verification but clearly you didn't, and you were scammed by impersonator

Oh, so this impersonator's account was created before you, with the same profile pic, and same name, what a coincidence.

 

[giuliana]

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additional, discord names can be changed whenever you want so the person just changed it to scam you

 

[giuliana]

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Oh, so this impersonator's account was created before you, with the same profile pic, and same name, what a coincidence.

are you okay in the head?, they are not the same images you are literally showing a different discord photo than mine and as I say again, why don't you send a message to EPICNPC FIRST to confirm that you are talking to me, you do not have to come to bother me knowing that I have nothing to do with it lol

 

[ClashVillage]

additional, discord names can be changed whenever you want so the person just changed it to scam you

thats a lie because i messaged another buyer from you and they confirmed it was you.

 

[giuliana]

thats a lie because i messaged another buyer from you and they confirmed it was you.

another buyer? for epicnpc account confirmations YOU HAVE TO COME to ask yourself, that someone else tells you does not tell you clearly and I don't know those people either

 

[ClashVillage]

another buyer? for epicnpc account confirmations YOU HAVE TO COME to ask yourself, that someone else tells you does not tell you clearly and I don't know those people either

ok so dont worry about it since I am posting the other account.

 

[ClashVillage]

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idk but the discord digits are not the same if you look at the images and all my threads have nothing to do with you, also Giuliana is a common name, it's not like I only use it so with the digits that are there you can see that It's not my profile, so again I have nothing to do with you

the dc pfp is the same anime character

 

[giuliana]

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The person never sent me a message for confirmation, he is not added to my discord either and we never had contact, he was scammed by an imitator, I ask that you close the dispute, thank you.

 

[ClashVillage]

are you okay in the head?, they are not the same images you are literally showing a different discord photo than mine and as I say again, why don't you send a message to EPICNPC FIRST to confirm that you are talking to me, you do not have to come to bother me knowing that I have nothing to do with it lol

am I ok in the head? why are you being aggressive? is it bc i exposed you?

 

[giuliana]

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the dc pfp is the same anime character

You're still wrong, it's not the same, that character that appears on the imitrator's disc is Eula, and the one I have is called Layla

 

[giuliana]

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am I ok in the head? why are you being aggressive? is it bc i exposed you?

i'm not being pushy you literally never messaged me here to confirm it was me, and as the site says, the site DOES NOT INVESTIGATE discord dispute contact members on the site it's entirely your responsibility as i also didn't have any conversation with you or in discord nor in epic

 

[ClashVillage]

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The person never sent me a message for confirmation, he is not added to my discord either and we never had contact, he was scammed by an imitator, I ask that you close the dispute, thank you.

I sent a SS of the account that scammed me. Since you claim you had nothing to do with it and your discord acc is different you should not have any issues with this. All i know is the discord account I shared scammed my out of $320 and I am making everyone aware so they are not a victim of the same scam.

 

[giuliana]

I sent a SS of the account that scammed me. Since you claim you had nothing to do with it and your discord acc is different you should not have any issues with this. All i know is the discord account I shared scammed my out of $320 and I am making everyone aware so they are not a victim of the same scam.

You are making a dispute directly to me when I have nothing to do with it, so I think you made a mistake and the dispute should be removed because I'm not the person who scammed you

 

[ClashVillage]

You are making a dispute directly to me when I have nothing to do with it, so I think you made a mistake and the dispute should be removed because I'm not the person who scammed you

You are the person who scammed me? You admit it....

 

[giuliana]

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I'm sorry you've been scammed, but I don't recommend making deals on discord without first sending a message on epicnpc as there are too many imitators on discord

 

[giuliana]

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You are the person who scammed me? You admit it....

This is due to the translator, I don't speak English and the words are translated wrong, and I already sent enough proof that it's not my discord and you didn't send me a message on epicnpc either, when you clearly said that you did and also the paypal that appears in the screenshots the screen is not mine either

 

[ClashVillage]

This is due to the translator, I don't speak English and the words are translated wrong, and I already sent enough proof that it's not my discord and you didn't send me a message on epicnpc either, when you clearly said that you did and also the paypal that appears in the screenshots the screen is not mine either

interesting, the other impersonator also used a translator and used it as an excuse when they scammed me.

 

[ClashVillage]

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This is due to the translator, I don't speak English and the words are translated wrong, and I already sent enough proof that it's not my discord and you didn't send me a message on epicnpc either, when you clearly said that you did and also the paypal that appears in the screenshots the screen is not mine either

Also, the impersonator comes from Spanish origin (they speak Spanish) and so is your discord account.

 

[giuliana]

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Also, the impersonator comes from Spanish origin (they speak Spanish) and so is your discord account.

What does that have to do with anything? I am not the only person who speaks Spanish in the world, and clearly he did it because that person knows my epic profile and will impersonate me, that includes my nationality and everything that has to do with epicnpc, but clearly we never had a conversation in discord or epicnpc for account confirmation, so why do you keep insisting?

 

[giuliana]

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interesting, the other impersonator also used a translator and used it as an excuse when they scammed me.

The only way for this to be valid is if you have contacted me at epicnpc before or we would have talked from the discord that I showed above

 

[ClashVillage]

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What does that have to do with anything? I am not the only person who speaks Spanish in the world, and clearly he did it because that person knows my epic profile and will impersonate me, that includes my nationality and everything that has to do with epicnpc, but clearly we never had a conversation in discord or epicnpc for account confirmation, so why do you keep insisting?

Giving proof isn't insisting. You use a translator and speak Spanish so does the impersonator. Both DC accounts were made around the same time (6 days apart). Im just giving proof

 

[giuliana]

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Also, the impersonator comes from Spanish origin (they speak Spanish) and so is your discord account.

but we never talk on discord or on epicnpc and my epic profile says that I don't use secondary discord accounts and that I don't have any more discord accounts here either, you simply had to come and confirm directly

 

[ClashVillage]

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but we never talk on discord or on epicnpc and my epic profile says that I don't use secondary discord accounts and that I don't have any more discord accounts here either, you simply had to come and confirm directly

Just bc it says it doesnt mean its true. Same origin, same name, dc made at same time, same translator, same everything.

 

[giuliana]

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Just bc it says it doesnt mean its true. Same origin, same name, dc made at same time, same translator, same everything.

It's just that we never talk on discord and as I said again, I don't use any more discord accounts, I only have Giuliana #1498 where we never talk and my epicnpc where we don't talk either, if the imitator's account is from 2021 the accounts have nothing to do with me from discord they can change as many times as they want, they simply put my name and they scammed you that way, but since you didn't bother to come to ask you, you're here, without accepting that I'm not the person who scammed you even though I never we've talked

 

[ClashVillage]

It's just that we never talk on discord and as I said again, I don't use any more discord accounts, I only have Giuliana #7894 where we never talk and my epicnpc where we don't talk either, if the imitator's account is from 2021 the accounts have nothing to do with me from discord they can change as many times as they want, they simply put my name and they scammed you that way, but since you didn't bother to come to ask you, you're here, without accepting that I'm not the person who scammed you even though I never we've talked

You only have Giuliana #7894? thats funny bc in the picture u sent earlier it was a diff profile LOL exposed. In this pic its Giuliana #1498

 

[giuliana]

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I have not sent any different photos here I literally sent a screenshot of my pc, and that is my discord, the same one that is posted on my epicnpc.

 

[ClashVillage]

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Clearly those are 2 diff discord accounts. You exposed yourself!!

 

[giuliana]

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Clearly those are 2 diff discord accounts. You exposed yourself!!

I don't have any more discord accounts, nor "secondary accounts" I only use the one I showed in the posts above, so you should stop bothering since we didn't have any conversations.

To culminate this, I was wrong putting the numbers since they are similar, but I clearly told you more than 5 times which is my discord, indicating it in the images and also my epicnpc profile, I also showed that I do not have any conversation with you neither in discord nor in epic, this dispute is ridiculous and I will not lengthen it any longer, I will wait for a mod to close this dispute.

 

[ClashVillage]

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I don't have any more discord accounts, nor "secondary accounts" I only use the one I showed in the posts above, so you should stop bothering since we didn't have any conversations.

To culminate this, I was wrong putting the numbers since they are similar, but I clearly told you more than 5 times which is my discord, indicating it in the images and also my epicnpc profile, I also showed that I do not have any conversation with you neither in discord nor in epic, this dispute is ridiculous and I will not lengthen it any longer, I will wait for a mod to close this dispute.

Yeah you say you have 1 account but accidentally slip and gave me your other discord account

 

[giuliana]

The account does not exist.

I won't waste my time anymore, that's all

 

[ClashVillage]

There’s this one which is also you

 

[giuliana]

There’s this one which is also you

It's the imitator's account, it's not mine.

 

[ERA]

Oh, so this impersonator's account was created before you, with the same profile pic, and same name, what a coincidence.

I will not comment on other things, but i want to say "for example if you create account in 2015 and change your username to ERA today, it will looks like you created ERA account in 2015"
(I am not saying he/she is innoncent, just prevent false information)

 

[giuliana]

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I will not comment on other things, but i want to say "for example if you create account in 2015 and change your username to ERA today, it will looks like you created ERA account in 2015"
(I am not saying he/she is innoncent, just correcting a false inform

clearly I never had a conversation with him or epic or discord, and that's not my discord

 

[ClashVillage]

I will not comment on other things, but i want to say "for example if you create account in 2015 and change your username to ERA today, it will looks like you created ERA account in 2015"
(I am not saying he/she is innoncent, just prevent false informati

I will not comment on other things, but i want to say "for example if you create account in 2015 and change your username to ERA today, it will looks like you created ERA account in 2015"
(I am not saying he/she is innoncent, just prevent false information)

Yeah but accs are made 6 days apart both speak Spanish and use a translator

 

[EpicNPC CM]

Epicnpc will no longer review disputes if one of these three Trade Guardian options is not used. There will be 2 types of disputes that can be opened.

1. Trade Guardian dispute - If TG was used, we will fully investigate as normal.
2. Scam Review - If TG was not used, only an account review will be conducted on the accused's account. We will check if they're a known scammer, previously banned member or have been accused of scams on other sites. They will then either be banned or not. An investigation into the dispute will not be conducted.


Due to how easy it is to impersonate members on Discord, we have decided to end all reviews for Discord scam reports. Discord is now use at your own risk. We will assume 100% of discord accounts are fake and any disputes will automatically be closed if that was the primary contact method.

For feedback, if someone disputes a feedback and the sale was on Discord, we will also not review it. The feedback will be immediately removed.

Members can still use Discord and post it in their threads. However if a problem is reported and all communication was on Discord we will not review it.

Please use our on-site chat instead.

Clarification:

• If payment proof is provided, we will review the dispute as normal.
• This rule is for Discord impersonations reports only. Meaning a veteran member is impersonated on Discord by a scammer.
  • Scammers do not impersonate new members. We will still investigate these types of Discord reports.