I got scammed out of my idv account.

[Ikiishiima]

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He told me he would pay me 100 dollars for my account but only if he could log into it first, so I put a second password on the account so that he couldn't change anything and just make sure the account was good and perfect, he then changed the facebook account and bound my account to his dmm account so it was permanently on it and refused to take anything of. He then told me that after I gave him the second password he would pay me but then proceeded to block me on everything and refuse to pay me.

 

[EpicNPC CM]

@BjorkYorke notified

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

@BjorkYorke notified

hey! Didnt see this till now. Did you reach out to me anywhere? Checked my email and I’m not seeing anything

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

PSA: to anyone reading this is not what happened. We made a deal and this user specified that they were willing to give me the account first and then I’d pay. I agreed to this and they told me specifically they had nothing attached to the account other than the Twitter they gave the login for. I went on the account and they had a secondary pass hoping I wouldn’t notice as they were planning to give me the account, have me pay for it after and then scam me by taking the account back using sneaked linked accounts and a secondary pass and lying to me about it throughout the entire process. I then called them out and they started to lie at first. They kept saying they unlinked things but would link them again sneakily as a continued attempt to scam me. This happened multiple times and I pointed out to them how they agreed to this and that if they weren’t willing to follow the exact rules we both agreed on, then they are just wasting both of our times and that we should just not do this and I was willing to give the account back and they proceeded to instead be really rude to me. I ultimately blocked them as first of all I don’t tolerate people attempting to scam me, and second of all I don’t tolerate rudeness. They are just mad that their scam attempt didn’t work and are trying to make me look like the bad guy.

 

[BjorkYorke]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

At one point when I was trying to just give them the login info back so that we could just not do the deal anymore this user blocked me on discord so I even reached out here. I attached screenshots

 

[Ikiishiima]

I literally told you that I wanted to back out after and told you I didn't want to do it anymore and you acted entitled to my account saying i made a deal and had to go through with it? I wasn't going to scam you at all I've bought accounts and done trades before? I put the secondary password on it so that you couldn't steal the account from me? and if what you're saying is true then why did you tell me you would pay for the account then proceed to block me when requesting the payment? you literally took an account I bought and put money into and gave me nothing in return. Then you refused to give me my account back until i gave you the sec password then took it from me and blocked me? You literally scammed me. I was in no way trying to scam you at all why would I try to pull out if I were scamming you?

 

[Ikiishiima]

How are you not the bad guy in any way when you literally blocked me and took my account? as if you were entitled to it and then refused to give it back? I'll admit I didn't remove the secondary password because you were being really weird and I really didn't want to loose my account but you literally stole it from me and then refused to pay what you got. I then told you that you would have to pay me first before receiving any of the information then you continued to try to pry it out of my fingers when all I asked of you was for you to leave me alone and let me have my account back before you just took it and bound a DMM account to it so I would have no way of getting you off my account?

 

[Ikiishiima]

and while I did want to be paid in a gift card which is very weird it was only because the other person "Floxie" the person I was trying to buy an account from wanted to be paid in one until i found out they were a scammed so thank god you didn't get that gift card. But in the end you did scam me out of my account and took it from me refusing to give it back.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

This is not true whatsoever. First of all you didn’t “put the secondary password to protect yourself”. If so you would have been honest about it. You told me specifically that there was no secondary password and that you were giving me the account fully before having me pay. You sneakily added a secondary pass AND sneakily linked accounts while lying about both so that you could scam me by taking my payment and then taking the account back: If you don’t beleive me you can go look at your own chat logs and see that this is exactly what you agreed too. I was willing to give the acct back at first along with explaining to you how what you were doing wasn’t okay and then you were extremely rude and blocked me. (I even reached out to you when you blocked me trying to work it out and the pictures of me reaching out I’ve already attached to this thread). You unblocked me and at first I was gonna go along with it and either pay you or just deactivate my DMM and give you the account info back but with how you were acting and with your multiple attempts to scam me I decided to just block you. You had your chance but I decided that I don’t work things out with scammers. Sorry but I have no sympathy for you in this situation as you tried to scam me and proceeded to be rude.

 

[BjorkYorke]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

How are you not the bad guy in any way when you literally blocked me and took my account? as if you were entitled to it and then refused to give it back? I'll admit I didn't remove the secondary password because you were being really weird and I really didn't want to loose my account but you literally stole it from me and then refused to pay what you got. I then told you that you would have to pay me first before receiving any of the information then you continued to try to pry it out of my fingers when all I asked of you was for you to leave me alone and let me have my account back before you just took it and bound a DMM account to it so I would have no way of getting you off my account?

This is a flat out lie man. First of all I wasn’t being “weird” as I literally did exactly what we agreed to. And second you not once said to pay first. In fact we agreed to the exact opposite. Go look at the chat yourself! I’d attach pic but I deleted my discord and created a new one after you sent multiple friends to harass me there! You’re just lying because you’re a scammer and embarrassed about it. I didn’t “block you and take your account”. I tried to make a deal with you, you blatantly tried scam me, I still tried to give the account back or finish the deal and went as far as to reach out here (even though honestly I shouldn’t have as youd probably just go scam someone else with it), and then you were rude to me and I finally decided that I don’t need to resolve things with a rude scammer.

 

[Ikiishiima]

I didn't sneakily link accounts and the only time it old you whatsoever that there was no second password is when I said I removed it, and you never EVER told me you would deactivate your dmm account and give me my account back? you bound it to my account and said you were in permanently and I either give you the account or we share it. To which I told you to buy from someone else. I literally have bought and traded accounts before I'm not a scammer. You stole my account and made sure I was out of it for no way possible me to get it back then blocked me. Don't try to make it look as if I attempted to scam you in any way when i literally begged you to just give me it back and you told me no that I told you I made a deal and that I had to go through with it. Own up.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

and while I did want to be paid in a gift card which is very weird it was only because the other person "Floxie" the person I was trying to buy an account from wanted to be paid in one until i found out they were a scammed so thank god you didn't get that gift card. But in the end you did scam me out of my account and took it from me refusing to give it back.

Idk what some other person getting scammed by someone unrelated has to do with this? Anyways I’m done communicated with you. Let’s let the staff resolve this

 

[Ikiishiima]

Here's another screenshot.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

I didn't sneakily link accounts and the only time it old you whatsoever that there was no second password is when I said I removed it, and you never EVER told me you would deactivate your dmm account and give me my account back? you bound it to my account and said you were in permanently and I either give you the account or we share it. To which I told you to buy from someone else. I literally have bought and traded accounts before I'm not a scammer. You stole my account and made sure I was out of it for no way possible me to get it back then blocked me. Don't try to make it look as if I attempted to scam you in any way when i literally begged you to just give me it back and you told me no that I told you I made a deal and that I had to go through with it. Own up.

I’m not making it look like anything. I’m being honest. You’re manipulating the situation and I’m sure deep down you know it. Hope you get banned so you can’t attempt to scam anyone else and I’m glad I didn’t fall for it! I’m also glad that you can’t access the account anymore because now you can’t go scamming someone else with it.

 

[Ikiishiima]

ermm ok.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

Here's another screenshot.

This is unfair as you get to pick and choose screenshots but I don’t have access since I deleted the account after your friends harassed me. The context for this screenshot is that the user was trying to scam me for a while and we were already halfway through the deal and I was telling them my DMM was already attached and to tell the secondary pass because that’s what they agreed to! They told me I could have full access to the account with none of their links before I had to pay so I attached my DMM and then noticed the secondary pass (an attempt to scam out of multiple) and ofc told them To tell me what it was because they lied that there wasn’t one in the first place! I will admit though that I lost some patience at that point.

 

[Shiyochan]

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Banned - scammer https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/scam-disputes-against-shiyochan.2102158/

This is a flat out lie man. First of all I wasn’t being “weird” as I literally did exactly what we agreed to. And second you not once said to pay first. In fact we agreed to the exact opposite. Go look at the chat yourself! I’d attach pic but I deleted my discord and created a new one after you sent multiple friends to harass me there! You’re just lying because you’re a scammer and embarrassed about it. I didn’t “block you and take your account”. I tried to make a deal with you, you blatantly tried scam me, I still tried to give the account back or finish the deal and went as far as to reach out here (even though honestly I shouldn’t have as youd probably just go scam someone else with it), and then you were rude to me and I finally decided that I don’t need to resolve things with a rude scammer.

The only reason why would you create a new Discord Account is simple.

If someone searches for the ID of your Discord, they would see that this Discord Account belongs to a scammer.

 

[BjorkYorke]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

The only reason why would you create a new Discord Account is simple.

If someone searches for the ID of your Discord, they would see that this Discord Account belongs to a scammer.

Not true! My current discord has the same username!! Just different #. I deleted my discord because I didn’t wanna be harassed by their multiple friends

 

[Ikiishiima]

I didn't have any message you at all but one person asking you to pay my account. No one at all was trying to harass you in anyway please stop painting yourself as the victim it's so embarrassing for you.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

I didn't have any message you at all but one person asking you to pay my account. No one at all was trying to harass you in anyway please stop painting yourself as the victim it's so embarrassing for you.

Not true!! I had three people reach out right after at first saying “hey” randomly and then when I said “hey” back they started going off saying I scammed you and being really mean. Lie all you want but hopefully the truth wins in the situation. Sucks that people like you ruin trading/selling sites like this and ruin the fun for everyone.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

I didn't have any message you at all but one person asking you to pay my account. No one at all was trying to harass you in anyway please stop painting yourself as the victim it's so embarrassing for you.

Gaslight all you want but we both know the truth. Hopefully the EpicNPC staff see through the lies. Let’s let them look and decide what to do. We can argue all day and it’s gonna get nowhere.

 

[Ikiishiima]

Not true!! I had three people reach out right after at first saying “hey” randomly and then when I said “hey” back they started going off saying I scammed you and being really mean. Lie all you want but hopefully the truth wins in the situation. Sucks that people like you ruin trading/selling sites like this and ruin the fun for everyone.

you're talking about yourself but okay. I'm done commenting on this I didn't lie in anyway and you're the person who scammed someone here.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

you're talking about yourself but okay. I'm done commenting on this I didn't lie in anyway and you're the person who scammed someone here.

Not true. Hope you’re not able to scam anyone in the future and that you look within at this situation. You’ve been caught in so many lies. A truthful person doesn’t do that! You’re a scammer. Wish you the best regardless. You can respond to this all you want and get the final word. I’m done feeding it.

 

[Cabernet]

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I’m just gonna remind you guys before you continue arguing further that nothing either side says matters without evidence to back it up, so be sure to post the entire conversation in both Discord and EpicNPC (if there was further discussion there) from start to finish somewhere in this thread and not just snippets.

 

[BjorkYorke]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

I’m just gonna remind you guys before you continue arguing further that nothing either side says matters without evidence to back it up, so be sure to post the entire conversation in both Discord and EpicNPC (if there was further discussion there) from start to finish somewhere in this thread and not just snippets.

I only have the EpicNPC messages and what I posted is everything as this user never responded. I don’t have the discord ones as I deleted the discord and created a new one when their friends started harassing me. I don’t use discord for anything other than Idv so it wasn’t a big deal to delete it and make a new one.

 

[Ikiishiima]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Here's our full entire discord conversation.

 

[Ikiishiima]

Here's our full conversation.

 

[Ikiishiima]

whoops i didn't mean to send it twice it was glitching

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

This is most of the convo but there are certain parts conveniently edited out. I can explain what was edited our but as I don’t have access to the messages I can’t provide pics. Idk if you want me to explain if I don’t have proof. This sucks but idk what I’m supposed to do

 

[Ikiishiima]

https://streamable.com/qc1709 here's a link to the whole dm to prove I cut nothing out.
(I used a streamable link because i couldn't get youtube to work for me I'm very sorry.)

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

https://streamable.com/qc1709 here's a link to the whole dm to prove I cut nothing out.
(I used a streamable link because i couldn't get youtube to work for me I'm very sorry.)

How does that prove anything? Deleting messages is easy

 

[Ikiishiima]

Everything we said aligns perfectly- I haven't deleted a single thing at all and none of my messages in the entire thing were edited it would say so.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

Everything we said aligns perfectly- I haven't deleted a single thing at all and none of my messages in the entire thing were edited it would say so.

You definitely deleted messages but honestly at this point it’s whatever. The staff will decide and if they believe you yeah that’s sucks for me but not the end of the world. At the end of the day when this interaction ends I’ll be done dealing with you and you’ll be stuck with your own internal stuff to work out. Really messed up to try and scam someone and then frame that person when it didn’t go your way. Once again I just hope that you get banned so you can’t scam and pull this on someone else

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

Last message: to the admins reading this thread I’m sorry you have to deal with all this. This is a ridiculous situation and I apologize for anything I’ve done personally that may have made it more complicated.

 

[LukasJiulu]

I have a pretty good amount of time as an Identity V account seller... so I want to share my experience as well.
Sorry, I don't really want to intervene. But which parts does she scams you?

1. Did you already paid her? If this was the case and she didn't want to logout of the account. She can be counted as a scam
2. If this is just about you already receiveing the account and you haven't paid her, that's very unfair of you.

Maybe just cancel the deal if you don't like it? Just give a proof of logout in a video!

Note to EpicNPC Admins and Staff: IdV doesn't automatically log you out when you change the binds, so as long as they didn't logout from their device. They could forever login to the account , that's why IdV trading is very risky.
And seems like BjorkYorke bind a DMM account after he gets access to it, DMM account can never be lost or unbinded at all. That means even if the original owner contacts the support and wanted to forcefully logout the account from all device... BjorkYorke will still have access to the account.

And also Secondary-Password : Secondary-password protection is used usually to protect the account more, by having secondary-password protection activated in IdV. You will never gacha or shop on that account freely if you don't remember the password/ don't have access to it. So it seems very reasonable that Ikiishima put the secondary-password activated to avoid being cheated on.

If you both didn't reach an agreement, maybe just cancel the transaction and give her back the account, don't forget to give her the DMM information and proof of logout.

Thank you and sorry for interfering.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

I have a pretty good amount of time as an Identity V account seller... so I want to share my experience as well.
Sorry, I don't really want to intervene. But which parts does she scams you?

1. Did you already paid her? If this was the case and she didn't want to logout of the account. She can be counted as a scam
2. If this is just about you already receiveing the account and you haven't paid her, that's very unfair of you.

Maybe just cancel the deal if you don't like it? Just give a proof of logout in a video!

Note to EpicNPC Admins and Staff: IdV doesn't automatically log you out when you change the binds, so as long as they didn't logout from their device. They could forever login to the account , that's why IdV trading is very risky.
And seems like BjorkYorke bind a DMM account after he gets access to it, DMM account can never be lost or unbinded at all. That means even if the original owner contacts the support and wanted to forcefully logout the account from all device... BjorkYorke will still have access to the account.

And also Secondary-Password : Secondary-password protection is used usually to protect the account more, by having secondary-password protection activated in IdV. You will never gacha or shop on that account freely if you don't remember the password/ don't have access to it. So it seems very reasonable that Ikiishima put the secondary-password activated to avoid being cheated on.

If you both didn't reach an agreement, maybe just cancel the transaction and give her back the account, don't forget to give her the DMM information and proof of logout.

Thank you and sorry for interfering.

What happened is I already bound the DMM which wasn’t breaking any agreement because she was giving me the acct first and after it was linked already she was sneakily attaching things to the account so she could take it back once I paid. So then I was In a situation where I’m already permanently attached to it and she’s trying to scam me and got mad when I called her out for it and blocked me. I was at first willing to find a way to give it back even reaching out here but with her being rude and the general fact that she tried to scam me, I stopped caring enough to figure things out. I didn’t go in trying to scam her but she tried to scam me and was very rude about it and at that point I deciding I shouldn’t have to deal with people acting like that so I stopped (at this point I was already attached to the account by DMM and at first I figured I’d sell it but I think imma probably end up just finding someone on the site whos a victim of scamming and give them the acct for free to create some good from this)

 

[Cabernet]

You should not transact (including gifting) or do anything further with an account that’s currently in dispute until an admin or super mod finishes investigating this.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

You should not transact (including gifting) or do anything further with an account that’s currently in dispute until an admin or super mod finishes investigating this.

Yeah I know. That’s why I haven’t done it yet. I have someone in mind but I’m waiting for the dispute to end

 

[SoulsaviorWhite]

I just wanted a sandwich, also L.

 

[SoulsaviorWhite]

Anyways I was promised $60 and only received $45 the guy proceeded to spend the money on “his” new acc with my name still on it, ****ing hurts.

 

[Ikiishiima]

What happened is I already bound the DMM which wasn’t breaking any agreement because she was giving me the acct first and after it was linked already she was sneakily attaching things to the account so she could take it back once I paid. So then I was In a situation where I’m already permanently attached to it and she’s trying to scam me and got mad when I called her out for it and blocked me. I was at first willing to find a way to give it back even reaching out here but with her being rude and the general fact that she tried to scam me, I stopped caring enough to figure things out. I didn’t go in trying to scam her but she tried to scam me and was very rude about it and at that point I deciding I shouldn’t have to deal with people acting like that so I stopped (at this point I was already attached to the account by DMM and at first I figured I’d sell it but I think imma probably end up just finding someone on the site whos a victim of scamming and give them the acct for free to create some good from this)

This was completely breaking any type of agreement. I told you I wanted to pull out and you told me I couldn't. That I made an agreement and I had to go through with it, and you said yourself that you bound the DMM account so that you would be in forever.

 

[Ikiishiima]

I'm done posting on this thread for now, the rest is up to admins.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

This was completely breaking any type of agreement. I told you I wanted to pull out and you told me I couldn't. That I made an agreement and I had to go through with it, and you said yourself that you bound the DMM account so that you would be in forever.

I attached my DMM because you said you were giving me the account fully first so it should have been safe for me to attach. Ofc I attached my DMM. You were the one who tried to scam me not realizing I had attached my DMM

 

[Ikiishiima]

I attached my DMM because you said you were giving me the account fully first so it should have been safe for me to attach. Ofc I attached my DMM. You were the one who tried to scam me not realizing I had attached my DMM

The whole conversations proves that's not true, you're entrapping yourself in your lies.

 

[SoulsaviorWhite]

So basically, you expected to either. 1. Take back the acc after being paid or b. You were making sure.

All I can say is never trust a stranger, especially on a site for people like us.

It's hard to tell who is in the wrong here.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

So basically, you expected to either. 1. Take back the acc after being paid or b. You were making sure.

All I can say is never trust a stranger, especially on a site for people like us.

It's hard to tell who is in the wrong here.

I agree that this is a tricky situation. I think we both have done things wrong here. I really did have good intentions though I can say that. My intentions were never to scam anyone

 

[EpicNPC CM]

It appears the easiest way to resolve this would just have the account be returned to the seller and refund whatever money has been sent and then you can both move on.

 

[BjorkYorke]

Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/i-got-scammed-out-of-my-idv-account.1824629/page-4

It appears the easiest way to resolve this would just have the account be returned to the seller and refund whatever money has been sent and then you can both move on.

Ok

 

[Ikiishiima]

It appears the easiest way to resolve this would just have the account be returned to the seller and refund whatever money has been sent and then you can both move on.

No money was ever sent to me.

 

[Ikiishiima]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

Ok

My discord is seraph#5025 for you to return the account to me. and disable the DMM account you had bound to it. see you there or i will take further action.