I am sorry and have refund you @novataurs scroll down to see my apology

[Firetorm333]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I just wanna ask this question, can scams on discord and paypal be setrled by police if the money involved is less than 100usd? Can tell me reason too? Thanks

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

It depends on situation honestly 9/10 times you wont be able to

 

[Firetorm333]

It depends on situation honestly 9/10 times you wont be able to

Likr in a situation where only 50usd is scammed?

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

You could however it depends on the situation like if you were buying a game account that's againts the tos in many games so you arent justified

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

I just wanna ask this question, can scams on discord and paypal be setrled by police if the money involved is less than 100usd? Can tell me reason too? Thanks

lol asking this question with a "Warning Trade With Caution" tag makes you look quite obvious you must have scammed someone and wanna make sure they can't call the cops on you. Sad broski sad.

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

lol asking this question with a "Warning Trade With Caution" tag makes you look quite obvious you must have scammed someone and wanna make sure they can't call the cops on you. Sad broski sad.

Yeah I didnt even see that bro lol it just popped up

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

Likr in a situation where only 50usd is scammed?

They can get the police involved by the way

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

Yeah I didnt even see that bro lol it just popped up

lol its cool gave me a good laugh

 

[Firetorm333]

Ya precisely i regretted my actions that i scammed someone so i refunded the money back to that guy but he didnt reply me. Just scared tghat police will come

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

Ya precisely i regretted my actions that i scammed someone so i refunded the money back to that guy but he didnt reply me. Just scared tghat police will come

Yeah bro you should know better to be stealing from people who work hard for their money I hope you realize your actions have consequences and that whoever you scammed can get the police involved if they chose too

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

well if you refunded him you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But remember this site is all about your reputation and $50?? man i get this virus has hit people hard but is it worth to ruin your whole epicnpc career over $50? cuz now your gonna have one hell of a time selling or even buying cause that's a remark you wont lose feedback wise.

 

[VenomousSnake]

Banned - Banned Jezpeo

well if you refunded him you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But remember this site is all about your reputation and $50?? man i get this virus has hit people hard but is it worth to ruin your whole epicnpc career over $50? cuz now your gonna have one hell of a time selling or even buying cause that's a remark you wont lose feedback wise.

Indeed

 

[ZZreroll.com]

If going to jail is a thing for an online scam ... They will need to prepare a large prison for my friends out there.

In 6 months only .

But tbh, scamming is really not a nice thing to do .. Life might be hard for you due to pandemic but you will never know that the seller might even having a harder time. Given that how efficient a Singapore police force is, I think at least it is having a higher chance for them to try entertain the report compare to some other.

 

[Firetorm333]

If going to jail is a thing for an online scam ... They will need to prepare a large prison for my friends out there.

In 6 months only .

But tbh, scamming is really not a nice thing to do .. Life might be hard for you due to pandemic but you will never know that the seller might even having a harder time. Given that how efficient a Singapore police force is, I think at least it is having a higher chance for them to try entertain the report compare to some other.

So if i have alr refunded, is it ok for me alr?

 

[Firetorm333]

well if you refunded him you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But remember this site is all about your reputation and $50?? man i get this virus has hit people hard but is it worth to ruin your whole epicnpc career over $50? cuz now your gonna have one hell of a time selling or even buying cause that's a remark you wont lose feedback wise.

So as long as i refunded, and change myself, i am fine?

 

[Firetorm333]

So if i have alr refunded, is it ok for me alr?[/QUOTE

If going to jail is a thing for an online scam ... They will need to prepare a large prison for my friends out there.

In 6 months only .

But tbh, scamming is really not a nice thing to do .. Life might be hard for you due to pandemic but you will never know that the seller might even having a harder time. Given that how efficient a Singapore police force is, I think at least it is having a higher chance for them to try entertain the report compare to some other.

I am just 14 years old...

 

[Rafflez]

Banned - Failed to resolve - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/failure-to-payback-loan-and-ignores-my-messages.2090927/

You might get banned but that’s up to the admin team

 

[Firetorm333]

You might get banned but that’s up to the admin team[/QUOT
I understand my actioms and regret it. Just dont want cops as i am only 14

 

[Romolus]

Oh boy, from my personal levels of experience dealing with being scammed so many bloody times and later going to the police I can say so much: Depending on the country you may reside in it varies by a metric ton if the police will investigate the case even to begin with and it also depends on the amount you have been scammed off. It's more likely that in Sweden the police will investigate and persecute a scammer than in Germany. Been told a couple times after the public persecution received papers from the police that they do not entertain the idea using state funds just to retrieve such little money oversees if its like two digits or three. Would've been something else when it was in Europe. I was sent a letter detailing that my case has no public interest value and that I should basically kindly go 'F' myself and hire a lawyer. So in most cases you will be dealing with a lawsuit more than with the police themselves and that’s a risk that’s unpredictable.

Now that doesn’t means you should go around and scam people just, because you may think the police won’t do jackshit. There is still the risk that there might be some other consequences should you be caught. Such as the victim hiring a lawyer, getting banned from any and every trading platform and forum, having vigilantes come after you and other thing’s that won’t have a happy ending. You may end up scamming the wrong person, and it will cost you more than what you may have stolen in the first place.

 

[Firetorm333]

Oh boy, from my personal levels of experience dealing with being scammed so many bloody times and later going to the police I can say so much: Depending on the country you may reside in it varies by a metric ton if the police will investigate the case even to begin with and it also depends on the amount you have been scammed off. It's more likely that in Sweden the police will investigate and persecute a scammer than in Germany. Been told a couple times after the public persecution received papers from the police that they do not entertain the idea using state funds just to retrieve such little money oversees if its like two digits or three. Would've been something else when it was in Europe. I was sent a letter detailing that my case has no public interest value and that I should basically kindly go 'F' myself and hire a lawyer. So in most cases you will be dealing with a lawsuit more than with the police themselves and that’s a risk that’s unpredictable.

Now that doesn’t means you should go around and scam people just, because you may think the police won’t do jackshit. There is still the risk that there might be some other consequences should you be caught. Such as the victim hiring a lawyer, getting banned from any and every trading platform and forum, having vigilantes come after you and other thing’s that won’t have a happy ending. You may end up scamming the wrong person, and it will cost you more than what you may have stolen in the first place.

The person i scammed is from germany and i am in singapore.

 

[Firetorm333]

The person i scammed is from germany and i am in singapore.

But i refunded alr

 

[Firetorm333]

Oh boy, from my personal levels of experience dealing with being scammed so many bloody times and later going to the police I can say so much: Depending on the country you may reside in it varies by a metric ton if the police will investigate the case even to begin with and it also depends on the amount you have been scammed off. It's more likely that in Sweden the police will investigate and persecute a scammer than in Germany. Been told a couple times after the public persecution received papers from the police that they do not entertain the idea using state funds just to retrieve such little money oversees if its like two digits or three. Would've been something else when it was in Europe. I was sent a letter detailing that my case has no public interest value and that I should basically kindly go 'F' myself and hire a lawyer. So in most cases you will be dealing with a lawsuit more than with the police themselves and that’s a risk that’s unpredictable.

Now that doesn’t means you should go around and scam people just, because you may think the police won’t do jackshit. There is still the risk that there might be some other consequences should you be caught. Such as the victim hiring a lawyer, getting banned from any and every trading platform and forum, having vigilantes come after you and other thing’s that won’t have a happy ending. You may end up scamming the wrong person, and it will cost you more than what you may have stolen in the first place.

Anywau thanks

 

[Romolus]

The person i scammed is from germany and i am in singapore.

Since you are under 18 most likely your parents will have to deal with the issue. But, since you admitted that you are underaged, it leaves the question why you are on this website to begin with and why you have a PayPal account. Registration is allowed at 18 and not 14. Not that it’s my business if you breach the terms of services of PayPal, but you do know that PayPal can freeze the account until you are 18.

 

[Firetorm333]

Since you are under 18 most likely your parents will have to deal with the issue. But, since you admitted that you are underaged, it leaves the question why you are on this website to begin with and why you have a PayPal account. Registration is allowed at 18 and not 14. Not that it’s my business if you breach the terms of services of PayPal, but you do know that PayPal can freeze the account until you are 18.

I understand. I breached the rules. But its my fault. Hope the buyer dosent call police.

 

[Romolus]

Well, you admitted you did wrong and returned the money I don’t think much is to follow honestly if that gives you some reassurance. As for being banned from the website, I cannot decide this therefore I will ping @Angel

I think we don’t have an age requirement to able to sign up but just to be sure.

 

[Firetorm333]

Well, you admitted you did wrong and returned the money I don’t think much is to follow honestly if that gives you some reassurance. As for being banned from the website, I cannot decide this therefore I will ping @Angel

It isnt angel

 

[Firetorm333]

Well, you admitted you did wrong and returned the money I don’t think much is to follow honestly if that gives you some reassurance. As for being banned from the website, I cannot decide this therefore I will ping @Angel

I think we don’t have an age requirement to able to sign up but just to be sure.

It is @novataurs

 

[Romolus]

It isnt angel

I’m aware of it. I am pinging Angel which is a super moderator to have them answer the question, if we have a legal age for registration on the website and if you might get banned for what you did.

 

[Angel]

I will need confirmation from @novataurs that refund has been issued

 

[Firetorm333]

Well, you admitted you did wrong and returned the money I don’t think much is to follow honestly if that gives you some reassurance. As for being banned from the website, I cannot decide this therefore I will ping @Angel

I think we don’t have an age requirement to able to sign up but just to be sure.

Okay but i font wish to be banned because that is the only way i can keep ib touch with buyer

 

[Firetorm333]

I will need confirmation from @novataurs that refund has been issued

He wouldnt reply. Guess he went offlinr since i scammed him.

 

[Angel]

@novataurs email notified

 

[Firetorm333]

@novataurs email notified

 

[Firetorm333]

Sent several other small payments too

 

[Firetorm333]

@novataurs email notified

I texted him thru this email, his paypal email

 

[Firetorm333]

Sent several other small payments too

His paypal email i did to was
[email protected]

 

[Firetorm333]

@novataurs Plz reply ASAP. I have sent you email and refunded you

 

[Firetorm333]

@novataurs email notified

Another refund, so all refunded now

 

[ChrisPTY507]

I just wanna ask this question, can scams on discord and paypal be setrled by police if the money involved is less than 100usd? Can tell me reason too? Thanks

I hope this starts as a precedent. People have no idea how easy is to trace the real identity of people online, specially if you scammed.

No matter how much money you scammed; you literally committed FRAUD, which obviously requires to be proceeded by the law. Half of my wife family are lawyers and I have exposed a hefty chunk of scammers online and they get scared shitless when they get a warning of lawsuit after realizing they’ve been exposed Next time try to be honest and legit. It all depends on the victim whether he decides to sue you for committing fraud or not. If victim decides to proceed, say hi to jail. Being from other country doesn’t save you btw

Last but not least, usually the final results is your very personal data and information being legally posted on the Internet and labeled as a scammer. That could kill any profesional career you may have if your employers are those that love making background check on any possible candidate until they stumbled on a public page featuring some of their candidate as scammers.

I swear that scammers just have nothing on their heads. Pwning their lives for a mere less than 100 dollars which isn’t even that much. I also realize you are a minor, but I am well clear that Singapore laws are among the strictest in the world and an example to most countries to follow up, so IMO anything can happen, and that anything can’t be good for you should the victim decides to go to the law, if not, then you learned your lesson...

 

[Firetorm333]

I hope this starts as a precedent. People have no idea how easy is to trace the real identity of people online, specially if you scammed.

No matter how much money you scammed; you literally committed FRAUD, which obviously requires to be proceeded by the law. Half of my wife family are lawyers and I have exposed a hefty chunk of scammers online and they get scared shitless when they get a warning of lawsuit after realizing they’ve been exposed Next time try to be honest and legit. It all depends on the victim whether he decides to sue you for committing fraud or not. If victim decides to proceed, say hi to jail. Being from other country doesn’t save you btw

Last but not least, usually the final results is your very personal data and information being legally posted on the Internet and labeled as a scammer. That could kill any profesional career you may have if your employers are those that love making background check on any possible candidate until they stumbled on a public page featuring some of their candidate as scammers.

I swear that scammers just have nothing on their heads. Pwning their lives for a mere less than 100 dollars which isn’t even that much. I also realize you are a minor, but I am well clear that Singapore laws are among the strictest in the world and an example to most countries to follow up, so IMO anything can happen, and that anything can’t be good for you should the victim decides to go to the law, if not, then you learned your lesson...

gotcha, have refunded the victim, waitingvhis reply

 

[Firetorm333]

WARNING! Off-site contact information posted. Most scams occur off-site. Please contact members directly via EpicNPC chat. We do not investigate disputes if you communicate off-site.

I just wanna ask this question, can scams on discord and paypal be setrled by police if the money involved is less than 100usd? Can tell me reason too? Thanks

@novataurs I am so sorry for what i had done to you. I have sent multiple emails to you to apologize and ask for your forgiveness. I really know my mistake and will definitely change it for the better of everyone else. Once i realised i was wrong, i immediately sent you the money through paypal and i have screenshots in our private chat in discord. I understand your feeling, fuestrated and hurt. Me too, i am worried for both of us. Who's fault? Its me. I was too greedy and things just dont go the right way that time. But i really went to reflect on my actions. Was it worth it? Was that just a destruction to my own life and others? I went to regret on my actions so i refunded you.
I know scamming is a very bad thing now. Its not jist hurting others but hurting yourself. Scamming should never be done. I hate it now. I am so sorry for the thing i done to you. I feel you too. I may be angry at the loss of your money. @novataurs but here you go, refund. I refunded in your paypal and you should open up the app and go check it. I am 100% sure i refund you. I also decided to give you @novataurs a very very sincere apology. As well as a Dokkan battle mobile game account that i play. Because i know your are at loss at the starr. So i need to be at loss now. When you cab reply, feel free to just dm me in this thread or on epicnpc PM. Or maybe, on discord. I wish you legit forgive me this time, and i swear i will never do it again. Just write something here to adknowledge this...
My discord is Valleyduck#4170
Once again, you have refunded you and have turned over a new leaf. Thank you

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[Apache]

Scamming is a illegal period. But, according to you, you sent the money back. Still doesn’t defeat the purpose you indeed scammed, sent money back or not, the intention was there and it was executed.

You are young so I’m not that surprised. No matter what situation you’re in, do not steal from other people. You definitely wouldn’t want someone to steal form your parents, they work hard for their money to provide for you.

In this case, someone worked hard for their money, and you took it but “gave” it back. This is definitely not to bash you or put you down, but sometimes you gotta tell it how it is. We make mistakes, we’re human but we learn from them. From this point forward, do things with honesty. You offer a service or good, deliver it.


Respectfully,
Champ

 

[Firetorm333]

Scamming is a illegal period. But, according to you, you sent the money back. Still doesn’t defeat the purpose you indeed scammed, sent money back or not, the intention was there and it was executed.

You are young so I’m not that surprised. No matter what situation you’re in, do not steal from other people. You definitely wouldn’t want someone to steal form your parents, they work hard for their money to provide for you.

In this case, someone worked hard for their money, and you took it but “gave” it back. This is definitely not to bash you or put you down, but sometimes you gotta tell it how it is. We make mistakes, we’re human but we learn from them. From this point forward, do things with honesty. You offer a service or good, deliver it.


Respectfully,
Champ

Thank you.. i will change.

 

[Apache]

Thank you.. i will change.

Keep your head up

 

[Firetorm333]

Scamming is a illegal period. But, according to you, you sent the money back. Still doesn’t defeat the purpose you indeed scammed, sent money back or not, the intention was there and it was executed.

You are young so I’m not that surprised. No matter what situation you’re in, do not steal from other people. You definitely wouldn’t want someone to steal form your parents, they work hard for their money to provide for you.

In this case, someone worked hard for their money, and you took it but “gave” it back. This is definitely not to bash you or put you down, but sometimes you gotta tell it how it is. We make mistakes, we’re human but we learn from them. From this point forward, do things with honesty. You offer a service or good, deliver it.


Respectfully,
Champ

I just hope he comes online and forgivr my actions

 

[Firetorm333]

Keep your head up

What i had done, was indeed bad, but i know i can change it, its never too late. I just need the forgiveness, to turn my self anew.

 

[Apache]

I just hope he comes online and forgivr my actions

I’m sure he would, if he’s a nice guy about it and understands you’re statements, I’m sure he’ll be open to forgiving you. If he doesn’t, don’t worry about it. What’s done is done, from this point on, just do everything with honesty and integrity

 

[Firetorm333]

I’m sure he would, if he’s a nice guy about it and understands you’re statements, I’m sure he’ll be open to forgiving you. If he doesn’t, don’t worry about it. What’s done is done, from this point on, just do everything with honesty and integrity

Okay! But he was ignorinh my mails

 

[Apache]

Okay! But he was ignorinh my mails

He might be busy or he is ignoring you because of what you did, it’s understandable.

 

[Firetorm333]

I’m sure he would, if he’s a nice guy about it and understands you’re statements, I’m sure he’ll be open to forgiving you. If he doesn’t, don’t worry about it. What’s done is done, from this point on, just do everything with honesty and integrity

I dont hope that my life turn upside down fur to this. I desperatly need a chance