golden85 SCAMMERS

[noumek]

Dispute Date: 27 December 2017
Method of Contact Used: skype
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: golden85
EpicNPC username of the person you're accusing: golden85
Your Instant Messenger ID:golden85

Other information:

What is the dispute about? he took my money and did not give me an account
Link of transaction thread: link the thread of what you or they were trading, if any
Approximate value of property: western union 160 euro+180 usd

Was a middleman used?
If yes, who?:NO
Provide information about the dispute and what lead to it:
Other details / notes:
Said it sold 6221 mmr dota 2 account.I sent 160 euro with the WesternUnion did not make a comeback.I bought another account with skrill about 10 days ago.I stole that account 1 hour ago

Pictures/Screenshots: Link to pictures or use code.
Other proof:
[IMG]http://res.cloudinary.com/mmobay-llc/image/upload/v1514404763/kf73xdf4pywjzk6wwrkq.jpg

Did you do any background searching before the transaction? yes
Have you traded with this person before? Yes
Approximately how many transactions have you done on EpicNPC? 2 times

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to earn money in turkey.
In the 10 days he stole 160 euro + 180 dollars
I trust in God's justice forever.it will surely ruin your punishment

 

[EpicNPC]

Can you translate those screens with your browser and repost the images. I can't read anything.

Why did you send a 2nd payment if he still didn't give you the first account?

Waiting for Golden85 to reply.

 

[noumek]

10 days ago I bought this account for $ 180
first account https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1237051-Divine-5-place-1280-mmr-6021
this is the second account
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1242664-Divine-5-Place-817-Solo-mmr-6221
I paid for the second account.did not give me an second account

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first account payment

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second account payment

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interview documents

 

[ARMIK]

I can confirm shady stuff from golden85. Yesterday he was invited to a middleman chat and he had 3 active threads on sale. He was actively talking to the buyer on skype up until the point where the buyer mentioned middleman involved and he started saying that he is super repped and that he doesn't need middleman. Then after a while he agreed and said "brb" - we waited for an hour and he never showed up.

10 hours later when I woke up I got his message saying that his accounts are sold. I find it hard to believe that he sold 3 accounts in under 10 hours.

And now this dispute confirms that he decided to take the wrong way.


Mike you can check my PM's with him and also the pending MM trade for 220$, the buyer paid the fee but I told him in the morning that I think he is scamming and that the buyer should contact you and request a refund for the fee he paid yesterday since the traade never happened.


P.S.

Dec 17 - Victim buys first account for 180$ (Skrill)
~ Victim Drops a lot of MMR and decides to buy another account from him
Dec 27 - Victim sends money via WU to golden85 and gets scammed for 160 Euro
Dec 28 - Golden85 recovers the first account as well that was sold on Dec 17.

Total loss is ~360 USD

 

[golden85]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1244508-golden85-SCAMMERS

Hi guys! The lady at the counter told me it was not a good code (MTCN) and contacted the person who sent me the money to give me the right one, yesterday was a celebration in our country in St. Stefan and I was gone city all day to celebrate with my stepmother because she called Stefania and I could not talk to this guy who says I stole his account and sent me a wrong code on western union believing he was tricking me! And @rmik says on post "had 3 active threads on sale"and "10 hours later when I woke up I got his message saying that his accounts are sold. I find it hard to believe that he sold 3 accounts in under 10 hours" I had because I sold them and i forget to put them "sold" ,one account of them was sold to this guy and another to skype : live:cb1377a20749bdc3 i forget to put in thread "sold it", and when was sold to a person who was my loyal customer. 15 minutes before sent me the guard guardian midleman @ rmik, after I wake up I saw that I received an e-mail from him and i write back to him that "I sold it and that I'm sorry! I can give the customer's skype address to confirm that I sold it and that I was a loyal customer! skype: live: cb1377a20749bdc3 I put the print with the discussion from the first account I sold it to him!

 

[noumek]

What are you trying to say?do you see the documents?there are documents about taking the money
where is the account?give me their answer.all bank and speech documents are standing
moderators, what documents can I send?

 

[ARMIK]

The last person you were talking to while the account was on sale was a Russian guy on skype, you told him "brb, eating" and then never showed up. Next morning all of a sudden your 3 accounts are marked as sold and this dispute is created.

The victim of this thread is claiming that the first account you sold him is also recovered.

Messages that noumek posted also show that the money has been picked up. Even though your name on skrill and name on WU is different. I will ask him to send me in private the name that you requested the money to be sent to.

 

[golden85]

Banned - scammer - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1244508-golden85-SCAMMERS

Yes because one regular buyer bought my account! Skype id : live: cb1377a20749bdc3 with 10$ more,and the 3 accounts was : https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1237051-Divine-5-place-1280-mmr-6021 ( i sold to this guy) but i forget to mark as sold thread because i was gone of the town with Christmas! and this https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1242664-Divine-5-Place-817-Solo-mmr-6221 ( i sold to this guy live: cb1377a20749bdc3) regular buyer ho pay me extra 10$ to sell to him my account and i sell it with 230$! After 4,5 hours when i weak up i mark the thread as "sold" because i forget to mark as sold!And how can I recover an account when I gave it original mail? This is a wizard of his own, I'm betting he change it to another mail after dropped in mmr and rank and says now that it was stolen!

 

[ARMIK]

You can tell that original email stories to someone that is not familiar with steam account sales, but not me.

You as a seller must now recover the first account and provide the new details to the buyer or provide refund.

Also explain about the WU money being picked up. I myself went to the tracking site and checked that it was picked up, so the messages noumek showed us are legit


He indeed dropped MMR and then came to you thinking you were a LEGIT CHEAP ACCOUNTS seller and he paid you for the second account that you didn't deliver.
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[EpicNPC]

Dec 17 - noumek buys first account for 180$ (Skrill)
~ noumek Drops a lot of MMR and decides to buy another account from Golden85
Dec 27 - Victim sends money via WU to golden85 and gets scammed for 160 Euro
Dec 28 - Golden85 recovers the first account as well that was sold on Dec 17.

Golden85 you said their was a problem with the WU payment, but proof has been posted it was picked up. Please give noumek that 2nd account.

I checked the first account elin***ove. The email has not been changed. It remains deva_deva2015. noumek, you received access to this email address and it shows it has phone security enabled. Can you confirm if you lost access to the email account?

 

[noumek]

my mail has been changed
messages from them that evening
I can not read because it is romanian
Can you translate?

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location romania writing?

 

[EpicNPC]

The 1st image says a security code was sent to that phone number.
The 2nd image says your email a*****21 was added as an alternative email.

These are expected email notifications when you are transferring an email account to someone else.

However i have confirmed the email account [email protected] was stolen from you.

paradzitu currently has access to the email account. paradzitu is golden85's partner.

$160 + $180 refund must be issue within 24 hrs or both users will be banned for scammer.

 

[ARMIK]

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1237051-Divine-5-place-1280-mmr-6021
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1244504-Divine-5-5595-solo-mmr-cheap

6000 on golden thread, then sold to noumek.
Noumek lost 500 MMR
Golden recovered the account and posted under parazitzu

Check dota2 id (numbers on the screenshot in the top right corner)

@golden85 is that your brother in crime that you call your "regular customer"?

[HIDE=999999999]Ban them both, its pointleless to even wait, they will not show up. For some reasons Romania/Mongolia/Russia+Ukraine remain the highest percentage of scammers on this forum. Every time i see someone posting from those countries i go full background check on them. They spread plague on the forum[/HIDE]

 

[EpicNPC]

No refund has been issued.

Proof has been shown payment was picked up and the account stolen back by his partner paradzitu.

2nd scam reported here
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/1245134-scam-don-t-do-business-with-this-guy

golden85, paradzitu and SirGoodGuyGreg are all working together. All have been banned.

scammers info:
[email protected]
wanderrer81
jetinochiitai
[email protected]
[email protected]
paradzitu
paradzitu1
[email protected]
[email protected]
pogea4fun
[email protected]
goldengolden85
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
SirGoodGuyGreg
b1scuite
[email protected]



In the future, I recommend using a middleman via Trade Guardian.