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Genshin Impact - Seller is not the Original Owner like they stated

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Purchase Date: 08/29/22
Date the problem began: 09/17/22
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC Messaging
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: 1Monkeyking1
Your Instant Messenger ID: jxxm29

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DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/new...chon-all-adepti-account.2296498/#post-8558052
Approximate value of property: Paid $110
Was Trade Guardian used?: No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?

Seller, 1Monkeyking1, states they were the original owner of the account. Turns out they were not. Got in contact with the actual ORIGINIAL owner who said they were hacked and have been trying to recover the account back for months. Returned the account to the original owner. Because of this I am filing a dispute against 1Monkeyking1. I've tried DMing him on EpicNPC but he has not responded despite it saying he is online so I am escalating this to a dispute.

On 08/29/22, I purchased a Genshin Impact account from the seller, 1Monkeyking1. We exchanged messages on EpicNPC messaging and we came to an agreement. I sent him $110 via Paypal FnF and he sent me the account. After purchasing the account and logging onto it, I noticed some strange things such as all of the messages in the game's inbox being in Spanish. The thread that I purchased the account from (https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/new...chon-all-adepti-account.2296498/#post-8558052) listed that the seller was the original owner. I messaged him after the purchase of the account to confirm if he is in fact the original owner and he replied with yes. Cool, everything is fine and dandy. Fast forward to today, 09/17/22, I received a friend request in game (Genshin Impact) from a random person (Restroc17) which I accepted. Having lingering thoughts that this account is not actually the seller's account since my initial purchase, I asked this person if they were friends with the original owner. They replied with yes and that it was their sisters account (the actual ORIGINAL owner) that got hacked. I asked the 'friend' to send me their (sister) discord so we can discuss and verify if it was actually their account. Proof of screenshots will be provided below.

The brother (Restroc17) sent me a discord invite to a group with him and the original owner (NamixX). So it was just us three in the discord. We discussed and the original owner was able to verify that it was indeed their actual account and it was hacked a few months ago. For those that do not know, the ORIGINAL owner of the account can recall the Genshin Impact account if they have the right information. The original owner (NamixX) stated that they tried to recall the account four times with little success. It was only a matter of time before the account actually got recalled (I have read up on people who finally got their accounts back after multiple attempts). I returned the account to the original owner because I knew how messed up it was getting their account hacked.

I am not sure if I am even eligible to get a refund since I returned the account back to the original owner but yeah. Ultimately, 1Monkeyking1 sold me this account knowing that he was not the original and that there was a very possible chance it could've been recalled back by the actual original owner.

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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
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Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
 

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Information
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Purchase Date: 08/29/22
Date the problem began: 09/17/22
Method of Contact Used (chat program): EpicNPC Messaging
Instant Messenger username of the person you're accusing: 1Monkeyking1
Your Instant Messenger ID: jxxm29

Other information:


DISPUTE Information
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Link of transaction thread (URL, Epicnpc thread): https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/new...chon-all-adepti-account.2296498/#post-8558052
Approximate value of property: Paid $110
Was Trade Guardian used?: No
If yes, what is the Trade Guardian ID?

What is the dispute about?

Seller, 1Monkeyking1, states they were the original owner of the account. Turns out they were not. Got in contact with the actual ORIGINIAL owner who said they were hacked and have been trying to recover the account back for months. Returned the account to the original owner. Because of this I am filing a dispute against 1Monkeyking1. I've tried DMing him on EpicNPC but he has not responded despite it saying he is online so I am escalating this to a dispute.

On 08/29/22, I purchased a Genshin Impact account from the seller, 1Monkeyking1. We exchanged messages on EpicNPC messaging and we came to an agreement. I sent him $110 via Paypal FnF and he sent me the account. After purchasing the account and logging onto it, I noticed some strange things such as all of the messages in the game's inbox being in Spanish. The thread that I purchased the account from (https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/new...chon-all-adepti-account.2296498/#post-8558052) listed that the seller was the original owner. I messaged him after the purchase of the account to confirm if he is in fact the original owner and he replied with yes. Cool, everything is fine and dandy. Fast forward to today, 09/17/22, I received a friend request in game (Genshin Impact) from a random person (Restroc17) which I accepted. Having lingering thoughts that this account is not actually the seller's account since my initial purchase, I asked this person if they were friends with the original owner. They replied with yes and that it was their sisters account (the actual ORIGINAL owner) that got hacked. I asked the 'friend' to send me their (sister) discord so we can discuss and verify if it was actually their account. Proof of screenshots will be provided below.

The brother (Restroc17) sent me a discord invite to a group with him and the original owner (NamixX). So it was just us three in the discord. We discussed and the original owner was able to verify that it was indeed their actual account and it was hacked a few months ago. For those that do not know, the ORIGINAL owner of the account can recall the Genshin Impact account if they have the right information. The original owner (NamixX) stated that they tried to recall the account four times with little success. It was only a matter of time before the account actually got recalled (I have read up on people who finally got their accounts back after multiple attempts). I returned the account to the original owner because I knew how messed up it was getting their account hacked.

I am not sure if I am even eligible to get a refund since I returned the account back to the original owner but yeah. Ultimately, 1Monkeyking1 sold me this account knowing that he was not the original and that there was a very possible chance it could've been recalled back by the actual original owner.

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Account Recalls
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Most account recalls have little proof. To get more evidence, please open a support ticket to attempt to recover the account BEFORE opening a dispute thread.

Did the seller say he's the original owner? (provide proof)
What account information did the seller provide you at the time of sale? (ID, SQA, etc)
How long did you have the account before it was recalled?
If you have a support ticket about this recall, please post screenshots of it.
(you can use the HIDE tag so the images are not publicly available to everyone)


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If you are not involved, please do not post in the thread.

Here you can find information about our Dispute rules and how we investigate disputes.
https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/90442-Dispute-FORUM-RULES
Dude people do that all the time.....it's common. Scammers will try and guilt trip people into giving up their account. I am the original owner. Also in not Russian I'm asian and black.
 

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
Whoa you have them the account? Wtf....you literally just scammed yourself o.o
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
I'm showing these cause this a glimpse of the money I spent in game
 
@1Monkeyking1 Recall the account.

@jxxm29 I'm not sure why you would just take someones word online and give them the account. I see no evidence that they are the original owners.
 
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@1Monkeyking1 Recall the account.

@jxxm29 I'm not sure why you would just take someones word online and give them the account. I see no evidence that they are the original owners.
I will try. The odds are low tho.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
@1Monkeyking1 Recall the account.

@jxxm29 I'm not sure why you would just take someones word online and give them the account. I see no evidence that they are the original owners.
Do you have a link to where I can contact support I don't have the game anymore downloaded
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
I do not know how long mihoyo support takes to respond.
Okay also does it matter if they unlinked the account from my email or not? Like do I have to use the email I used when I logged in to message them?
 
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Here is proof and evidence as to why I believe 1Monkeyking1 is not the original owner of the account, and why the ones that reached out to me are:

As I initially stated in my original thread, I found it odd that when I opened the game that some of the wording was in Spanish (only the in-game mailbox where you receive messages from NPCs). This will be important for later.

Now, 1Monkeyking1 has provided "proof" of purchase of Crystals. Of course, that does not mean anything lol. It means he could've bought Crystals while he had ownership of the account, or even that he purchased crystals for a different account. Also he posted a selfie of himself for some odd reason? Weird, but whatever.

I discussed with the those that contacted as I am still in a discord with them. Here is our conversation:
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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
Here is proof and evidence as to why I believe 1Monkeyking1 is not the original owner of the account, and why the ones that reached out to me are:

As I initially stated in my original thread, I found it odd that when I opened the game that some of the wording was in Spanish (only the in-game mailbox where you receive messages from NPCs). This will be important for later.

Now, 1Monkeyking1 has provided "proof" of purchase of Crystals. Of course, that does not mean anything lol. It means he could've bought Crystals while he had ownership of the account, or even that he purchased crystals for a different account. Also he posted a selfie of himself for some odd reason? Weird, but whatever.

I discussed with the those that contacted as I am still in a discord with them. Here is our conversation:
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I posted a selfies cause you said they said a Russian hacked their account and last time i checked Russians don't look like me.
 
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Hello,
I wanted to clarify and add additional information for this dispute in case it was confusing for staff members:

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Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
I'm just gonna point out that how are mods suppose to know that this isn't some drawn out scheme for you to keep the account and get your money back. For all we know those are your friends who are acting like the "original" owners of the account. It could literally be the same type of thing as when one person acts like a mod but isn't and the other person act likes a buyer/seller to steal the account or money. At the end of the day it's your fault you for some reason believe random people online that it's their account and gave it back to them cause you felt bad. Rule of thumb is never trust random people on the internet no matter how convincing they are. In all the time before I sold it to you I been playing on the account not once did they message me. But all of the sudden these people message you out the blue? How convenient.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
Anyways support has contacted me back and I gave them all the info they needed plus 2 years worth of purchase history so hopefully I hear back from them soon.
 
I'm just gonna point out that how are mods suppose to know that this isn't some drawn out scheme for you to keep the account and get your money back. For all we know those are your friends who are acting like the "original" owners of the account. It could literally be the same type of thing as when one person acts like a mod but isn't and the other person act likes a buyer/seller to steal the account or money. At the end of the day it's your fault you for some reason believe random people online that it's their account and gave it back to them cause you felt bad. Rule of thumb is never trust random people on the internet no matter how convincing they are. In all the time before I sold it to you I been playing on the account not once did they message me. But all of the sudden these people message you out the blue? How convenient.

While it is true that this could be some elaborate scheme, I assure that is not. There are definitely things that are not adding up from you, but I will let the mods decide that based on my posts hidden only to them. Thanks :)
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
While it is true that this could be some elaborate scheme, I assure that is not. There are definitely things that are not adding up from you, but I will let the mods decide that based on my posts hidden only to them. Thanks :)
Idk what's not adding up. You claimed some Russian guy stole their account I'm not Russian. I live the the US. And thats a very oddly specific race to assume someone is. Like how would they even know the person who hacked the account was Russian? Two I speak Spanish which that's why some chats are in Spanish. 3. I been on epicnpc for years my guy and have good reputation. Why would I all the sudden decide to be a scammer? Anyways like I said your fault for handing over the account to random people who claimed it was hacked.
 
Idk what's not adding up. You claimed some Russian guy stole their account I'm not Russian. I live the the US. And thats a very oddly specific race to assume someone is. Like how would they even know the person who hacked the account was Russian? Two I speak Spanish which that's why some chats are in Spanish. 3. I been on epicnpc for years my guy and have good reputation. Why would I all the sudden decide to be a scammer? Anyways like I said your fault for handing over the account to random people who claimed it was hacked.
It literally does not matter if you have had good reputation and have been on Epic all these years? I can say the same about me. Anyone can turn a leaf and start scamming out of the blue if they wanted to no matter how good their feedback is lol.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
It literally does not matter if you have had good reputation and have been on Epic all these years? I can say the same about me. Anyone can turn a leaf and start scamming out of the blue if they wanted to no matter how good their feedback is lol.
Reputation does matter that's why it's called Reputation. If it didn't then there would be no need for the system on here. It literally means you have good creditablity. Lol
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
@1Monkeyking1 Update please. It shouldn’t take support this long to respond.
Hi I got the account back. But the person he gave the account too has their Twitter linked and can't unlink it without their Twitter info.... also the person apparently spent money do it might also be charged back.
 
Hi I got the account back. But the person he gave the account too has their Twitter linked and can't unlink it without their Twitter info.... also the person apparently spent money do it might also be charged back.
Please PM me the support tickets and the proof that you have regained access to the account.
 
We are still waiting for a ticket update. They have forwarded the ticket to the specific team to handle it for removing the twitter account from the account.
 
Banned - https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/genshin-impact-seller-is-not-the-original-owner-like-they-stated.2324870/page-3
Nope. Imma try and resend another ticket. Sorry been busy with alot irl stuff atm
 
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